How to kill parkour miners

[Michael828 816]

A guide for those who spend most of their time in pro battles (specifically parkour), and who dread those K/D hungry, high GS players who take pleasure in ruining parkour maps. I'll try to be as helpful as I can.

First there are two types of battles you'll encounter them in:

1) Overdrive-enabled and supply-enabled maps

2) No-overdrive and supply-enabled maps   

 

* For the first type, your hull choice is imperative for your success. Wasp, Mammoth and Viking are the best choices for taking down a parkour miner, the other hulls are not suitable. Hornet maybe, but very rarely can it land a finishing shot without getting killed first. Now after choosing the hull, let me give you 3 cases:

--> If the miner is using Mammoth:

• You cannot rely on Wasp, because they'll likely kill you before you get near them. There is also that chance they'll be using the defender drone, meaning your bomb will become super ineffective and won't get you anywhere. There still is a slim chance you can land a bomb near them when the drone is still recharging, but good luck attempting that.
• Using Mammoth against them is a 50/50 chance, and still requires you to get dangerously close before activating your OD. Remember the overdrive doesn't give you invincibility anymore, and thus getting to the miner is a much harder task now.
• Viking gives you the best chances, but it also heavily relies on the turret you're using and the miner's protection. Short range turrets are NOT advisable. 

---> If the miner is using Titan:

• Wasp is even more ineffective considering the dome makes the bomb useless. Also your low armor is a still a huge barrier. Though you could still kill them if you're lucky.
• Mammoth is a better choice now, but again we face the problem of getting near them, though once you're close enough, activating the overdrive can absolutely wreck them.
• Viking is less effective because the dome is highly resistant to damage, unlike Mammoth who can now take a major beating due to the absence of invincibility.

---> If the miner is using any of the three medium hulls:

• Viking is mostly what you need. Best turrets to go with it are Railgun, Shaft, Gauss, Thunder, Hammer, Ricochet and Twins. Railgun is the best, but unfortunately the miner will very likely have protection against it. Remember they can't change their protections without self-destructing and losing all their mines, so use this for your advantage to maximize damage with one of the turrets listed above. Use double damage and strike when they least expect it. This is a very common method I see used to kill them.
• Wasp and Mammoth also help if you don't have Viking, also the turret you choose doesn't matter that much. But again, you have to get to them first.

---> Miners will almost never use a light hull.

 

* For the second type of parkour battles, your mission is significantly more difficult, but still achievable with some strategy and luck.

You obviously cannot rely on overdrives to destroy them so forget about hulls. Also going 1 on 1 against their heavily upgraded equipment and endless supplies is pointless.

A good idea is to subtly place around 5-10 mines (on top of each other) at certain locations the miner is likely to drive over. DON'T make it obvious, place them only when you're alone. I've managed to pull that off a few times before, but it's very risky.

Using a heavily upgraded Shaft / Striker with the suitable alterations can also work, provided they're not protected against you. You must strike at the right time (when the miner is occupied with something else or engaged in a fight with another member of your team).

If a miner happens to be assisted by other members of their team, then your problems are heavily compounded. This isn't a huge problem for overdrive battles though.

 

I don't know which type of battle is more common to find, but I'm leaning towards the first. Anyway, good luck taking down these sad, sad players and watching them rage. 

 

Finally, I'd just like to say that I, in no way, hate these people or wish for terrible things to happen to them, this is just a game and should never be taken seriously. My little "guide" here is only for the purpose of ridding parkour maps of this annoying behavior, and ultimately hoping for a change in the system that could lead to parkour mining becoming impossible.

Have a good day.

 

[Maf 32,306]

Single Viking or Hornet Shaft combo (with OD) does the trick. It's worse if they have lifesaver drone, but then with Hornet you either shoot him twice before the drone recharges, or get a friend in and shoot him at the same time.

[Michael828 816]

Had no idea they buffed the Lifeguard drone, I haven't been very active in the past few months. I was assuming the worst case scenario was Defender equipped.

Though even with Lifeguard, Viking would still be the best, like you've said. Mammoth should do okay but Wasp becomes irrelevant.

I'm not too sure about Hornet because it just dies very quickly, and can't always guarantee a kill. But I'm sure it's very capable if used effectively enough.

[Devastate 108]

I wish they would just removed damage mechanic in parkour battles, or make it an option. Then no need to waste DA, DD, or RK. Would also cut down on trolling

[799169 48]

I regularly kill these parkour miners on the test server.

They have m4 mammoths with lifeguard drones.

The way to do it is you equip:

1) Hornet m4

2) Shaft m4

3) 50% module against mines and their turret

4) Alteration for shaft which increases damage in sniping mode (large capacitors?)

5) m4 booster drone

Wait for overdrive, activate DA + DD, load full shot and shoot. Lifeguard will save them. Then load full and shoot again.

 

I tried this tactic will railgun + LCR first, but they get to use repair kit. Shaft kills in one shot.

 

Its really fun. One time the mammoth rico dude had mined the whole of Rio, and I killed him, and he just quit the battle. Said something in Russian but I don't understand Russian.

I join parkour battles mostly just to kill these guys.

 

On the main server, its a waste of supplies to go after them. Just make a new private parkour battle and invite friends.

 

Problem with Viking is that overdrive takes too long, they can get 50% protection against ur turret, and hide after taking first few shots.

One shot kill with shaft is the way to go.

Edited February 6, 2020 by 799169

[T879 151]

Nice topic that you're talking about. There is also another way that I would have liked to use to a greater extent, but which won't be possible that well any more due to the already happened Mk Conversion 

Namely: Most of those battles are in Space Mode, which is why I often use Hunter + Smoky with Assault Ammunition. That way, I can throw around Light and Medium Hulls without using supplies but pure impact force, and with some timing and adjustment I can also flip Titans. Mammoths are a bit difficult (especially now because my Smoky can only be Mk6.10, limiting me to 288 * 1.35 = 388.8 Impact Force in 1.49 seconds... while players have Mk7 at my rank and therefore the stock Mk7 Weight).

But I experimented in the Test Servers and it's possible to easily flip an Mk7 Mammoth when shooting and driving on its front. It just won't work too well when people are resisting and driving back etc.

Then, after the respective player is flipped, I let him self-destruct (if I didn't kill him or he repairs himself) or I get on top of him and use some mines 

I still would have liked to have a stock Mk7 Smoky due to the massive impact force gain, but hey... The Mk Update had to come somewhen

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

It's appreciated that you spent so much time and effort into this. But really, just placing 20-40 mines in one spot on top of each other while the miner is on the other side of the map is all it takes. The miner will most likely be dumb enough to drive onto what appears to be one mine.

[TheCongoSpider 8,957]

I like how the new Overdrives allow us more leverage to deal with these players. 

[Michael828 816]

Thank you all for the support, I'm glad this article turned out to be fine

Though in response to 799169, what I personally like about the Viking strategy is that as long as you equip one of the turrets I mentioned above and make sure the enemy isn't protected against it, you'll nearly always guarantee a kill no matter what GS or drone the enemy has. I've seen this many times before, feels like a more cost-effective solution.

1 hour ago, DieselPlatinum said:

It's appreciated that you spent so much time and effort into this. But really, just placing 20-40 mines in one spot on top of each other while the miner is on the other side of the map is all it takes. The miner will most likely be dumb enough to drive onto what appears to be one mine.

The mine placing needs to be done with caution, its success rate is not that high. One time a member of my own team saw what I was doing and went on to flip me, he was most likely friends with the miner. But if you do manage to place a bunch of them and survive long enough, getting to blow them up is satisfying.

 

 

[Devastate 108]

1 hour ago, DieselPlatinum said:

It's appreciated that you spent so much time and effort into this. But really, just placing 20-40 mines in one spot on top of each other while the miner is on the other side of the map is all it takes. The miner will most likely be dumb enough to drive onto what appears to be one mine.

This can be difficult if you don't have a drone to keep your mines after death, you have to stay alive ling enough for them to bumble around again.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

1 hour ago, bozo88 said:

This can be difficult if you don't have a drone to keep your mines after death, you have to stay alive ling enough for them to bumble around again.

True. It's best to go hide yourself after placing the trap. 

[Potdindy 866]

what even goes on in parkour maps....the few times ive accidentally loaded in, some people were kinda battling, and some were just sitting there with the flag

[Retaliate 503]

7 minutes ago, Potdindy said:

what even goes on in parkour maps....the few times ive accidentally loaded in, some people were kinda battling, and some were just sitting there with the flag

Clan vs Clan, Where they show off how much money they spend on supplies.