Why Freeze shouldn't exist

[wolverine848 13,097]

On 2/15/2020 at 9:42 AM, Dreadnought said:

Freeze could spray acid, which may not have any slowing effect but may continue to deal high damage long after the shooter stops.

This turret you suggest already exists - it's called firebird.

If players wanted to play firebird they would have bought that.  They didn't.  So changing a turret that much makes no sense.

[123tim456back 195]

1 hour ago, At_Shin said:

what if freeze could throw-off enemies' turret's aim and keep it's current freezing ability? What i mean is that when a freeze would shoot at the enemy, the enemy's turret would face a knock-back motion ( just the turret, not he hull).

so if the enemy is not turning his/her turret and if freeze shoots at it, the stream of freeze's shot would cause enemy's turret to turn jerkily.... thus, a freeze user could throw-off aims of railguns and other turrets at melee range...

So you want a giant blowdryer?

[Dhikr 132]

8 minutes ago, At_Shin said:

Yeah one that also freezes tanks

Sounds OP.

[123tim456back 195]

 

1 hour ago, At_Shin said:

Yeah one that also freezes tanks

When you spray something and it has knock back, thats really weird.  Also, that won't require skill because you don't need to aim for knock back with a spraying turret.

Edited February 19, 2020 by 123tim456back

[Dhikr 132]

It isn't a bad idea, but I doubt it will be implemented because dev's are working on HTML5 and I feel the current state of freeze is well-balanced, unlike a year or two ago when it was super overpowered, destroying firebird easily to.

[Potdindy 866]

2 hours ago, Dhikr said:

It isn't a bad idea, but I doubt it will be implemented because dev's are working on HTML5 and I feel the current state of freeze is well-balanced, unlike a year or two ago when it was super overpowered, destroying firebird easily to.

Currently fire has an alt that deals waaay more damage than freeze. Im fine with that, I think, but freeze lost its ability. Slowing a hull down isnt an ability i care about. I want to stop their turret.

[Dhikr 132]

8 minutes ago, Potdindy said:

Currently fire has an alt that deals waaay more damage than freeze. Im fine with that, I think, but freeze lost its ability. Slowing a hull down isnt an ability i care about. I want to stop their turret.

Yeah, I see what your saying and the idea is good, but implementing that without making it too overpowered will be difficult.

[999_noob 10]

 

On ‎2‎/‎15‎/‎2020 at 9:42 AM, Dreadnought said:

Freeze could spray acid, which may not have any slowing effect but may continue to deal high damage long after the shooter stops.

They should make a new alterative for Ice Mine also, by holding spacebar all the way to place one mine and that's should've help CTF and TDM

[Guest]

Freeze barely freezes now, why re you complaining. If there's any short-range turret to complain about, it's Firebird, 300 dmg afterburn is just.... I don't even know what to say.

[wolverine848 13,097]

2 hours ago, SamGamgee55 said:

Freeze barely freezes now, why re you complaining. If there's any short-range turret to complain about, it's Firebird, 300 dmg afterburn is just.... I don't even know what to say.

How many ticks for an mk7?

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

15 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

How many ticks for an mk7?

8 ticks for Mk7 at maximum temperature. Though most use Compact Tanks so you'll be getting the 10 ticks. 

[Potdindy 866]

12 hours ago, TheCongoSpider said:

8 ticks for Mk7 at maximum temperature. Though most use Compact Tanks so you'll be getting the 10 ticks. 

If its relevant Ive been seeing to nonburn alt from fires, and it is deeeadly. You dont die from burning, you die from them killing you with damage

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Just now, Potdindy said:

If its relevant Ive been seeing to nonburn alt from fires, and it is deeeadly. You dont die from burning, you die from them killing you with damage

The maximum damage they can do to you is more than Stock Firebird damage + afterburn. 

 

It's a kill them before they kill you thing since you have no afterburn to work with. If the Firebird dies 1 second into engaging an enemy, Compact Tanks is better because you can get them to maximum temperature by that time. In long engagements with Firebird protection, Incendiary Mix deals a lot more damage. It has 10 seconds of ammo for a total potential damage of 10,500 if you use all your energy. It's best to kill them as fast as possible, but it's not so easy when they have Defender. It pairs well with Hornet's Overdrive as you can kill them really quickly so that you don't die early and not do much damage. 

 

Treat it like an Isida with 10 seconds of ammo instead of 6.

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

You're a bad person

[dmc251 19]

I think the developers can make an alteration for firebird and replace the burning effect with freezing

[dmc251 19]

I think the developers can make an alteration for firebird and replace the burning effect with freezing

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

52 minutes ago, dmc251 said:

I think the developers can make an alteration for firebird and replace the burning effect with freezing

There is no reason for this to happen. 

[fishFAST 24]

this is so painful to read starting with the grammatically incorrect poll. then he goes on about chemicals n **** like this game is the least bit realistic. does any one really care about the lore of this game? and lastly he's making a suggestion to the developers. XDXXDXDDXDDDD the developers don't listen to us. your wasting your time typing up a thread like this

Edited March 28, 2020 by fishFAST
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[Okami 3,041]

17 hours ago, dmc251 said:

I think the developers can make an alteration for firebird and replace the burning effect with freezing

It exists. It's called Freeze.

[fishFAST 24]

5 hours ago, GrayWolf8733 said:

It exists. It's called Freeze.

shut up dimwit. he means they could add an alteration INSTEAD of having Freeze. And, alterations are much different from buying and upgrading a turret.

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, fishFAST said:

shut up dimwit. he means they could add an alteration INSTEAD of having Freeze. And, alterations are much different from buying and upgrading a turret.

Nothing in that post suggests replacing the turret freeze with an alteration on firebird.

Alterations are supposed to change the way a turret is used - not change it into another turret.

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

Freeze is almost perfectly balanaced, apart from it doesn't do afterfreeze damage like the afterburn of firebird. Please add this and freeze will be perfectly balanced.

[E_polypterus 2,374]

1 hour ago, RIDDLER_8 said:

Freeze is almost perfectly balanaced, apart from it doesn't do afterfreeze damage like the afterburn of firebird. Please add this and freeze will be perfectly balanced.

How bout making the freezing of the turret the same as freezing of the hull? If not freeze would be too easy to fight back against. Then we wouldn’t need an after freeze effect.

Firebird is too op especially with tht CT alt. Yet they do nothing to that turret.

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

No. I disagree. Freeze must stay as is. Perhaps it could be renamed as Flemish.

[E_polypterus 2,374]

On 6/18/2020 at 5:55 AM, RIDDLER_8 said:

No. I disagree. Freeze must stay as is. Perhaps it could be renamed as Flemish.

No. A buff would be nice. Nerf  firebird to the ground : D (and rename it compactfueltanks)

Edited June 20, 2020 by E_polypterus