Bouncing Areas

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

With Vulcan's rework came its projectile's ability to ricochet off of walls. In order for a projectile to ricochet, it would have to make an in-game angle of 60 degrees to trigger it. Bouncing sounds great, but during battle, usually wherever I can bounce at 60 degrees, I can also hit the target just by firing directly at them making its usage limited or almost non-existent. And when you do get the opportunity, you have to wind down and set up to do it , perhaps being inconvenient to the user since they are accustomed to the "in your face" gameplay. 

 

Here are the areas where you can utilise the bouncing mechanic on all non-Rubberised Rounds Vulcans in Matchmaking maps. The hull used to show these is Viking, as it has the lowest profile of all hulls. A few bounce areas can become available to Dictators. There are many "legitimate" bounce areas that have been omitted here, for reasons including:

• It can work but you will not see what you're hitting and can be hitting nothing the entire time you're doing it
• Shooting straight at the target is the better option
• Trying to bounce on the surface is inconsistent and much more effort to maintain than it's worth. 

 

Aleksandrovsk: 

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 This will lead directly into a section of the enemy base. 

 

 

 

 

Here shows the difference between direct shooting and using the Ricochet. 

 

 

 

 

 

Archipelago: 

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 Simple ricochet that will hit players slightly behind the building. Enemies can easily get out of the way of this stream.

 

 

 

It is very faint to see but the projectiles bounce to the left when shooting at the rightmost house at from this angle. 

 

 

 

Barda: 
 

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This leads towards the bridge. 

 

 

Bobruisk:

 

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This spot will be useful in CP. 

 

 

This spot leads behind the building and onto the ramp. 

 

This spot hits behind the building. 

 

 

Brest:
 

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Projectiles lead where the red circle is. 

 

 

This spot can be used in SGE when the point in on a bridge. 

 

 

 

 

Bridges: 

 

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This spot is useful in ASL.

 

This leads into the enemy base. It is a more unreliable spot as you can't see what you're hitting. 

 

 

 

Chernobyl: 
 

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These spots lead into the bases. 

 

 

 

 

Cologne: 

 

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This one is iffy but provides some protection against enemy fire. 

 

This is a more safe approach. 

 

 

Cross: 

 

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Here allows you to hit someone behind the small wall. 

 

 

Desert:

 

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This leads into the large area on the right hand side. 

 

 

Future:

 

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This spot will be useful in CP, though enemies can simply go towards the other side of the hump and avoid damage. 

 

 

Highways: 

 

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This leads into the enemy base, but is risky as you are exposed to enemy fire. 

 

 

Industrial Zone:

 

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This spot is useful in SGE. 

 

 

This spot is good for SGE and CP. 

 

This spot allows you to hit anyone who is at the hole in the top floor of the building. 

 

 

Kungur: 

 

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Simple ricochet that can deal with hiding enemies. 

 

 

This spot helps against enemies who hide near the repair kit.

 

Magistral: 

 

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This spot is good for SGE and CP.

 

 

Simple ricochet that can help you against enemies behind the building when you can't afford to take damage.

 

Massacre: 

 

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These two spots are good for SGE, though visibility is limited in the second spot. 

 

 

 

Molotov: 

 

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This allows for pressuring the railway path. 

 

This spot allows you to damage enemies behind the barricade. 

 

 

This leads onto the bridge.

 

This allows you to safely damage enemies at the far back of the left hand side. Any closer and the bridge will not allow the shots to hit the target. 

 

 

 

 

Osa: 

 

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This spot allows for safely damaging defenders of the enemy flag. 

 

 

Simple ricochet that can be used if you're avoiding damage. 

 

 

This leads onto the ramp or anyone on top of the incline. 

 

 

This hits close to the bridge. 

 

Parma:

 

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Simple ricochet that hits approaching enemies behind the wall. 

 

 

This spot allows for safely firing into that small spot. 

 

Sandbox:

 

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You can hit enemies at a slight angle behind the boxes. May see limited use. 

 

 

Solikamsk:

 

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This spot is useful in SGE and CP. 

 

 

Tribute: 

 

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Simple Ricochet that allows for hitting enemies behind the building. 

 

 

As I had seen in a MM battle, this spot in Molotov was usable with Dictator, but is more so with Viking. 

 

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I didn't put this in the Announcement for the new Vulcan as I wasn't sure when it would be archived, and possibly be non-existent to the players after it is archived, so I posted it here pls don't merge. If you saw any other useful spots, feel free to add there here. Let's not have this feature go to waste. 

 

Apologies for any issues with the spoilers. 

 

 

Edited March 15, 2020 by TheCongoSpider
Fixed issues with a few of the spoilers.

[Thomas11239 366]

Nooo don't let them know this

[mjmj5558 2,346]

Nice!

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

This is definitely useful for trolling the enemy team. Thanks bud. :3

[Benefactor 6,888]

I thought the angle only had to be grater than 10 degrees at minimum for the ricochet effect, no?

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

34 minutes ago, Benefactor said:

I thought the angle only had to be grater than 10 degrees at minimum for the ricochet effect, no?

60 degrees for Stock, Reinforced Aiming Transmission, Shooting Speed Regulator and Incendiary Band Vulcans. 10 degrees for Rubberised Rounds Vulcans. 

[Benefactor 6,888]

Just now, TheCongoSpider said:

60 degrees for Stock, Reinforced Aiming Transmission, Shooting Speed Regulator and Incendiary Band Vulcans. 10 degrees for Rubberised Rounds Vulcans. 

Oh OK. I stand corrected.

[Maf 32,300]

It's basically a discount Ricochet

[Viking4s 10,791]

Works only on flat walls, avoid the other surfaces

[mjmj5558 2,346]

1 hour ago, Viking4s said:

Works only on flat walls, avoid the other surfaces

Like richo

[vulcanrage 22]

This is missing the most powerful ricochet. What is the other castle map? Where you have either side with the raised ridge. And a central mountain. Gah I just can't think of it. 

 

But on the main ramp going into that central mountain, there is an arch. If you sit at the bottom of the arch with a slight tilt, ... cough, in assault mode, cough as red. 

 

You can rico on the curved arch in all three directions... and you slaughter the whole team. 

 

Cough. You win

[vulcanrage 22]

Just now, At_Shin said:

Man aren't you coughing a bit too much?

Keep healthy in this virus-plagued world... use masks and stuffs, get a test done...

pssh. respond by helping me with the name of the map that i just can't think of. now I'm wasting precious time trying to find it

 

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

5 minutes ago, vulcanrage said:

This is missing the most powerful ricochet. What is the other castle map? Where you have either side with the raised ridge. And a central mountain. Gah I just can't think of it. 

 

But on the main ramp going into that central mountain, there is an arch. If you sit at the bottom of the arch with a slight tilt, ... cough, in assault mode, cough as red. 

 

You can rico on the curved arch in all three directions... and you slaughter the whole team. 

 

Cough. You win

Are you talking about Wolfenstein ASL? Because I was going to post this in a few minutes. I left it out initially since it wasn't a 100% reliable spot as the enemies had to be close to the ramp for me to deal damage, but yeah, it's a fun spot that I got many enemies with it. 

[vulcanrage 22]

Wolfenstein. - blue in assault.. you can aim for almost the entire platform at bottom or ramp

 

But yes, i'm healthy. All good.

[vulcanrage 22]

1 minute ago, TheCongoSpider said:

Are you talking about Wolfenstein ASL? Because I was going to post this in a few minutes. I left it out initially since it wasn't a 100% reliable spot as the enemies had to be close to the ramp for me to deal damage, but yeah, it's a fun spot that I got many enemies with it. 

Hmm. I dunno... problem actually with this spot is just the level and amount you have to tilt on the ramp, and aim. You actually don't get much of a view of where you are hitting them. Like from a  birds Eye, you can't see. All I do is shoot, and see numbers. 

 

No, I don't th ink they have to be right in the archway. Or even really that close to it. I feel I shoot up and into it, and you can aim for the left, middle, and right. And I'm pretty sure left of middle, and right of middle. And each sprays a wide area with auto aim. It's utterly devastating.

 

Now as a counter for blue. Because of the angle you need to look at to shoot  and all, and the just seeing numbers while you stay at the base... They can easily come from around the sides and behind you on ramp and kill you. Cause you just sit their staring at the ramp/arch and look for numbers. So. 

 

But hella fun time. 

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Wolfenstein Bounce spot for ASL. Had a battle where I got 15 kills using this spot. A Uranium Striker on the blue team kept ending the fun though. Another problem is that I was using Dictator so I was unintentionally blocking my teammates from using the ramp on whichever side I was doing it on. 

 

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[vulcanrage 22]

Oh interesting. Yeah you are right. That angle looks a lot worse on dictator.

 

But equip titan. And you are almost right near the base of the ramp to get the right aim.

 

And its better. I think?

 

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

15 hours ago, vulcanrage said:

Oh interesting. Yeah you are right. That angle looks a lot worse on dictator.

But equip titan. And you are almost right near the base of the ramp to get the right aim.

And its better. I think?

Unfortunately, none of my Vulcan accounts use Titan, so I can't get the best out of the spot. 

[Initiate 1,306]

Only @TheCongoSpiderwould post something as ridiculously painstaking to make as this. Though I’ve never used the new Vulcan, I know feel like I have, so that was nice  Cheers, sir, and keep making stupidly complicated stuff that everyone wants to see and no one but you wants to make 

[vulcanrage 22]

I'll add another useful one for you in bridges. The areas are actually depicted in your current pics. And going off the edges of bridges is def something that everyone should be practising in all maps, but anyways. 

 

Ok so in ASL, on blue side of Bridges. The ledge where the double armour is located, with the low ground of a repair and speed boost. This is where you sit, you can see it in your first posted pic for Bridges. You have a building in front of you, so you are well shielded. 

 

Ok so you are going to shoot the bridge aiming for almost exactly where the vulcan viking is in the 2nd pic, you will also hit somewhere visible in the second pic, any enemy camping on the top of that ramp. So if they are out on that spot defending, or camping shooting into your blue asl base. Thats the counter spot. 

 

Finally, going down all ramps vulcan is now an excellent turret. Most turrets when going down ramps will shoot the floor at the bottom of the ramp. With vulcan angle, the bullets fly off the ground and up to the advancing enemies when they are at close ish range. Very effective, and keeps you firing even when going down the ramps.. off bridges and stuff for sure. Maybe the steeper terrain ramps I'm not as sure off. But am always testing. Works famously on the brest map. Those bridges going up and off is frequent thing. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

11 minutes ago, vulcanrage said:

Finally, going down all ramps vulcan is now an excellent turret. Most turrets when going down ramps will shoot the floor at the bottom of the ramp. With vulcan angle, the bullets fly off the ground and up to the advancing enemies when they are at close ish range.

Another reason not to play blue on Noise...

[vulcanrage 22]

Btw, I do have dictator. 

 

I used dictator in wolfenstein recently. But you are way to high up on the ramp to be getting the maximal range. 

 

Just be lower on the ramp, and try it with both hull orientations facing forward. Sometimes forward facing is bit easier to use.

 

Now, this is even better than I first wrote. Because of the width of the arches, you get different areas based on where you hit in the arch.

 

Not only hitting right above, middle above, left above, and in between right and middle, in between left and in middle. Just the whole range is good for shots.

 

But if you hit at the side of the arch closer to the ramp, or the side of the archer closer to the blue point, everything changes the areas you can hit. 

 

It's really an awesome spot.

 

In massacre, shooting from hills off hills in various areas, ... or even while driving on the floor shooting of the floor when going down creates ridiculous good ricochets. 

 

So much to add to this thread.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

So after playing with Vulcan on mobile for a while, it became clear some potential spots. These aren't safe spots where you're inaccessible to enemy fire, and it isn't guaranteed that any enemies would be there at any given time, but can be useful. 

 

The horizontal auto-aim likely plays a part in unlocking these spots, so I've been trying to mimic it on Flash to see if they're legitimate in non-Mobile TO scenarios. Also, it may just bad perspective, but it seems as if on Mobile, the angle needed for the shots to bounce is slightly decreased. 

Mobile is really helpful for utilising Vulcan's ricochet mechanic to the fullest. I can only dream of what Rubberised Rounds would feel like on Mobile. 

 

Some of the spots depend on whether or not an enemy is present where the bullets will Ricochet to. Using Dictator might not be the best idea. It would be better to use a hull that is shorter, perhaps Viking or Hunter. 

[Gauss-Hornet 489]

15 hours ago, TheCongoSpider said:

 

Have you tried out Sandal with Vulcan? There might be bouncing areas to target enemies in their base. Try shooting from the middle of your base (the highest platform), and from the corner from behind the billboard.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

10 minutes ago, Gauss-Hornet said:

Have you tried out Sandal with Vulcan? There might be bouncing areas to target enemies in their base. Try shooting from the middle of your base (the highest platform), and from the corner from behind the billboard.

I don't see the option for Sandal MM. It only has the pre-MM Sandal. 

Edited May 11, 2020 by TheCongoSpider