Are Rio and Silence still maps?

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

I don't see these maps anywhere, either in MMS or PRO battles. I haven't played for a very long time before this coronacation, and I wanted to play on my favorite maps. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find these maps anywhere. If the devs got rid of them, I think that would be a bonehead move.

Edited April 10, 2020 by sensei_tanker

[Toby 2,938]

Played on both of them in MM just recently. Of course they're still around, you just may haven't got a recent opportunity to play on both of them due to the vast MM map pool (which of course depends on how long and frequently you play in order to encounter a desired map, too).

[wolverine848 13,097]

23 minutes ago, ControlledChaos said:

Played on both of them in MM just recently. Of course they're still around, you just may haven't got a recent opportunity to play on both of them due to the vast MM map pool (which of course depends on how long and frequently you play in order to encounter a desired map).

I see Rio about 1/5 of the times I see most other maps.  That is a huge difference.

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

22 minutes ago, ControlledChaos said:

Played on both of them in MM just recently. Of course they're still around, you just may haven't got a recent opportunity to play on both of them due to the vast MM map pool (which of course depends on how long and frequently you play in order to encounter a desired map).

I seem to get either Magistral or Bobruisk like every other battle. I will keep trying. 

But does each map actually have an equal chance of appearing? I find Bobruisk extremely common to play on.

[Maf 32,306]

6 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

I see Rio about 1/5 of the times I see most other maps.  That is a huge difference.

I think it's not available in some modes? That would explain its reduced encounters. 

5 minutes ago, sensei_tanker said:

But does each map actually have an equal chance of appearing? I find Bobruisk extremely common to play on.

It should. I see no reason to have different probabilities for them.

[TheCongoSpider 8,957]

37 minutes ago, Maf said:

I think it's not available in some modes? That would explain its reduced encounters. 

Rio is available in every mode except TJR I believe. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, Maf said:

I think it's not available in some modes? That would explain its reduced encounters. 

It should. I see no reason to have different probabilities for them.

I rarely play TJR, so that would not explain it's rarity.

And it is not just my imagination.  I might see it 1/month.  Rio and a few other maps like Serpuhov, I see much, much less than maps like Sandbox, or Sandal, or Brest, etc.  It's not even close.

26 minutes ago, TheCongoSpider said:

Rio is available in every mode except TJR I believe. 

 

[Thomas11239 366]

Yes it is weird, I also find myself being put in the same maps everytime. I really like silence and rio but am rarely put into there, or at least it seems that way.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

1 hour ago, TheCongoSpider said:

Rio is available in every mode except TJR I believe. 

Which sucks, Rio would be perfect for TJR with its ample space.

[Toby 2,938]

Someone might see more of that map, someone might see less of the that map. For example, I'm rarely put into Sandbox, or even more rarely into Sandal, and more commonly into Rio and Serpuhov on the other hand, while @wolverine848 has the complete opposite experience according to him. It's all subjective, and depends on the player's total playing time (and thus varying degrees of exposure to the MM map pool amongst different players), as well.

 

The map selection in Matchmaking is completely random, with equal chance of appearance being for each map — the rest is up to players and their own personal experiences.

[wolverine848 13,097]

23 minutes ago, ControlledChaos said:

Someone might see more of that map, someone might see less of the that map. For example, I'm rarely put into Sandbox, or even more rarely into Sandal, and more commonly into Rio and Serpuhov on the other hand, while @wolverine848 has the complete opposite experience according to him. It's all subjective, and depends on the player's total playing time (and thus varying degrees of exposure to the MM map pool amongst different players), as well.

 

The map selection in Matchmaking is completely random, with equal chance of appearance being for each map. The rest is up to players and their own personal experiences.

over the short term I'd agree.  But it's been like this ever since they introduced MM.  Over 2+ years, there's no way I should be "randomly" placed in Rio as few times as I am.  It's just very odd.

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

3 hours ago, ControlledChaos said:

The map selection in Matchmaking is completely random, with equal chance of appearance being for each map — the rest is up to players and their own personal experiences.

But the probability is honestly ridiculous... in every single one of my accounts, I only get Bobruisk, Magistral, Sandbox, Sandal, Brest, etc. Plus given that each battle has 10 players, wouldn't 10 players also be having the same exact experience as I am? Eventually, when the sample set is large, the amount of appearances for each map should begin balancing out and becoming equal. 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

10 hours ago, ControlledChaos said:

Someone might see more of that map, someone might see less of the that map. For example, I'm rarely put into Sandbox, or even more rarely into Sandal, and more commonly into Rio and Serpuhov on the other hand, while @wolverine848 has the complete opposite experience according to him. It's all subjective, and depends on the player's total playing time (and thus varying degrees of exposure to the MM map pool amongst different players), as well.

 

The map selection in Matchmaking is completely random, with equal chance of appearance being for each map — the rest is up to players and their own personal experiences.

If what you're saying is true, then that means that MM is most definitely rigged. If you are a helper and suck up to the devs, then it'll treat you graciously. But if you're a player and criticized the devs decisions, then you are basically treated like garbage.

[SporkZilla 1,775]

I've started taking screenshots at the end of every battle to monitor how much I'm playing, which is probably too much. Tonight I'll make a spreadsheet from February & March's records and see what my map frequencies are.

Curious about Rio and Future because they might turn up less often, but they might not because they are very distinctive maps. Other maps might just as rare for me, but I might not notice because the difference between Bobruisk and Aleksandrovsk doesn't register in the same way.

I get Silence often.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

Is it just me or does MM always pick Osa, Short Bridge, and Massacre, Year 2042, and Barda or at least most often?

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

9 hours ago, yellowghetto said:

Is it just me or does MM always pick Osa, Short Bridge, and Massacre, Year 2042, and Barda or at least most often?

I've never seen MM pick Short Bridge (are you sure u don't mean Bridges, 'cause thats the more common one for me). Osa, Barda, Year 2042, and Massacre are very common.

Edited April 12, 2020 by sensei_tanker

[TheCongoSpider 8,957]

I've been getting Osa, Bridges, Serpuhov and Massacre the most these days. I've been getting Rio a bit more often recently but still rare. Silence I believe is the rarest for me at the moment. 

 

 The frequency of the maps can also change with the modes you play. If you only play modes with limited number of maps relative to other modes, then you'd see certain maps more often. If you are to record frequency, do it in TDM, CTF and CP. 

 

 

[yellowghetto 3,206]

19 hours ago, sensei_tanker said:

I've never seen MM pick Short Bridge (are you sure u don't mean Bridges, 'cause thats the more common one for me). Osa, Barda, Year 2042, and Massacre are very common.

XD Short Bridge isn’t MM LOL! I was playing there that moment and I guess it got caught in my head!

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

I finally got Rio on my alt account, but Silence is literally bigfoot for me.