Alterations for Hulls

[wolverine848 13,097]

9 minutes ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

So how exactly is Freeze and Fire IMMUNITY fair for Firebird (especially), and Freeze? These will make these turrets nerfed to irrelevance in MM once enough people have them.

But.. but you can equip that Corrosive mix alt that gives a whopping 5% extra damage in lieu of actually freezing enemy.  Equvalent - right?

I couldn't type that without busting a gut.  it really is just unbelievable.

Edited April 23, 2020 by wolverine848

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

8 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

But.. but you can equip that Corrosive mix alt that gives a whopping 5% extra damage in lieu of actually freezing enemy.  Equvalent - right?

I couldn't type that without busting a gut.  it really is just unbelievable.

Yes the Corrosive mix alteration is clearly the solution for Freeze players of Lieutenant General and above, with that 5% damage increase they won't be missing total loss of Freezing effect  .

However of course, I do think the majority of players will equip Firebird protection (or immunity) if that isn't buyer only. So that means you'll have to be Major General or above for Firebird to be useful again? Great. And now the interesting gameplay such as hit-and-run, and the whole point of Firebird with it's afterburn will be totally removed, simple one dimensional gameplay with only one useful alteration. But the turret will be so useless, unless you don't mind using Incendiary Mix 24/7 that any Firebird user will have to get a new turret anyway.

Edited April 23, 2020 by DestrotankAI9

[Virtue 207]

The dread increases with every sentence.... I'm guessing the "____ Immunity" will cost $100 and the "_____ Resistance" will be crystals....

[Virtue 207]

7 hours ago, HappyFace said:

Firebirds and Freezes still deal direct damage

Firebird has very low damage... It is nothing without its burning

[Taspen 135]

Um... Why is hunter overdrive getting a buff?

[Virtue 207]

Imo this is the update that tipped tanki over the edge... This was very ill-advised. It almost seems like now Tanki is trying to lose players... Beats me how they could let this one through....

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

As long as the actual immunity alterations are not in, this will not be so bad. But actual Immunity is totally ridiculous, unfair to 2/13 turrets, and will destroy the gameplay mechanics of both Firebird and Freeze. The immunity alterations are a huge, huge mistake by the devs.

Edited April 23, 2020 by DestrotankAI9

[wolverine848 13,097]

21 minutes ago, Taspen said:

Um... Why is hunter overdrive getting a buff?

2.7 to 3   and  3 to 5   after it had the GIANT nerf from 30 seconds down to 3 seconds is a... buff?

Oh... don't forget about the new alteration that affects EMP.    Is that a buff too?

[JoyRide 80]

These alts make things so complicated that strategically choosing your equipment is impossible now. There is no way to realize all the relevant alts on the other side and take them into account in a decision. Strategic thinking is completely out the window.  It is just pure luck. Tanki is officially a gambling company now.

I understand business, but  the constantly and very rapidly increasing costs cannot be justified. The money grab I see disgusts me so much, that I am  seriously considering not buying anything for real money any more.  Even completely stopping  playing is on the table.

Edited April 23, 2020 by JoyRide

[distroeryXXX 33]

1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

Are you sure? 

My understanding is... the immunity only works for non-damage effects.  No afterburn or can't be frozen.  Will still take normal turret damage.

Module protects against a turret damage
Immunity just removes after effects like stun afterburn and freeze effect, and resistance just lowers these effects of afterburn and freeze. I hope im right.

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

What are some of the differences between much more successful game companies, such as Blizzard Entertainment, and Alternativa? 

Here are two:

1) They listen to player feedback and take it into consideration, and they usually even consult player feedback before making important changes.

2) They are willing to ADMIT when they are wrong, and NOT IMPLEMENT or ROLL BACK bad changes when it is realised they are bad or they get a lot of player feedback about it, even when they have put a significant amount of work into it. Releasing a very bad update is worse than not releasing one at all.

Alternativa do neither of these very important things. Many of us have explained in considerable detail about how and why these hull alterations are bad for the game, particularly the Firebird/Freeze Immunity. They are going to destroy the mechanics of those 2 turrets.

What you SHOULD do is this:

- Don't put the Firebird/Freeze immunity into the game. If you do, realise that this is ridiculous and remove it from the game, and apply appropriate compensation to players who bought it.

- Better yet, revert this whole update, and make hull alterations about altering the actual hull overdrives, and not targeting specific turrets/hulls in a bizarre way as you seem to intend to do so with updates like this.

Will I/others be listened to? No, as usual probably not, no doubt we waste our breath. However in time, the player numbers will speak for themselves. What happens to game companies with an attitude like this? Their games fail, like Tanki X. This game was headed for failure, but it's been given a reprieve with the coronvirus crisis which has increased player numbers. It has many good features, interesting gameplay, and there is no reason why it couldn't be successful, but with updates and a dev attitude like this, it will be headed for failure once again.

Alternativa can start actually being willing to admit when they are wrong and listening to player feedback, or we might as well start preparing for the end of the game.

Edited April 23, 2020 by DestrotankAI9

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

43 minutes ago, distroeryXXX said:

and resistance just lowers these effects of afterburn and freeze. I hope im right.

Resistance lowers the speed at which you reach maximum or minimum temperature from neutral temperature.

[Virtue 207]

Wait, if these alts give you immunity to burning etc. what do they take away? These are alterations not just plain buffs right?

[KillerDiesel 188]

4 hours ago, Taspen said:

Um... Why is hunter overdrive getting a buff?

Because the recent nerf it received turned it into a joke. 

[Alklines 1,751]

Thing I don’t understand is why are these alterations limited only to Hunter? Why not to every hull in the game?

[wolverine848 13,097]

Don't even see them for Hunter.

I see Ultra Containers.  No alterations though.

[KillerDiesel 188]

43 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Don't even see them for Hunter.

I see Ultra Containers.  No alterations though.

Same.

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 minute ago, KillerDiesel said:

Same.

Would be a darn shame if they couldn't swing it for some odd reason  Darn shame.  

Edited April 24, 2020 by wolverine848

[tankpod1 27]

where can i buy alt for hunter?

[coconuttree 519]

12 hours ago, fghjkl54 said:

i thought Incendary band alt is better with vulcane

The effectiveness of that alt depends on how common fire immunity is. Of course that alteration will be a nightmare if you don't have immunity.

[P_O_T_A_T_O 147]

16 hours ago, Marcus said:

 

Together with the release of the new alterations, protection modules will lose their ability to reduce slow-down and after-burn status effects.

 

An example: If you equip a module with protection from Freeze, it will still protect you from the direct damage caused by the turret BUT it will no longer protect you from the slow-down status effect.

 

To protect yourself from slow-down or after-burn effects, you will need to use hull alterations.

 

 

Now that's just PURE SCAM right there !!!

people spent THOUSANDS of crystals to MU their modules, and just like that you remove a very important feature that they owned just to sell it one more time as an alteration ?

PURE NONSENSE !!

[KillerDiesel 188]

1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

Would be a darn shame if they couldn't swing it for some odd reason  Darn shame.  

Well it is the devs we're talking about. They haven't made one decent update besides the reformed Vulcan.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

So the only way to get these is to open Ultra Containers? Given from what I've seen from the videos on it already made and me getting 2 commons from the two I got from the mission, these alterations are only available to a select few. 

 

So the majority would have to live with nerfed Fox and Badger protection modules unless the reward probabilities get better or we get more containers from other events. This is more of a buff for Firebird and Freeze. 

[The_Pakistani 16,768]

Stop playing this game. Another shop exclusive stuff. Shame on you.

and locked on flash. wow

Edited April 24, 2020 by The_Pakistani

[RaKaZa 104]

29 minutes ago, The_Pakistani said:

Stop playing this game. Another shop exclusive stuff. Shame on you.

and locked on flash. wow

its also not in the shop they didnt release it already