Alterations for Hulls

[Tidebreaker 1,669]

7 hours ago, kydapoot said:

Only available in ultra containers is the impression I'm getting. Unless ultras are regularly available in most events, then that means that Tanki Online is no longer free-to-play. As someone who has bought things from the shop before, this kind of moneygrabbing makes me want to stop buying.

They will be replacing regular containers, so don't even worry about availability.

[Viking4s 10,791]

1 minute ago, tankpod1 said:

Did anyone watch v-log? Alterations will be no longer available in garage... 

I believe it is only for Hull alteration.

Edited April 24, 2020 by Viking4s

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 minute ago, Tidebreaker said:

Clearly you're forgetting two even bigger threats.

1. Incendiary Mix. I don't even need to begin explaining because it'll now be the most powerful Fire alt, miles ahead of CFT.

2. Incendiary Band. You do know that with Fire immunity, you don't take any damage and instead ignite other people?

To think that CFT will be an issue will be barely scratching the surface if I'm frank.

At least now I have a hope of completely denying Gauss and Hunter users the joy of taking away my supplies...

Clearly you forget my fire module still protects from straight damage - which is what Incendiary mix does.

My fire module only protects against part of what compact tanks does.  The afterburn will do more total damage vs enemies with fire module.

[Tidebreaker 1,669]

Just now, wolverine848 said:

Clearly you forget my fire module still protects from straight damage - which is what Incendiary mix does.

My fire module only protects against part of what compact tanks does.  The afterburn will do more total damage vs enemies with fire module.

IM's damage increase is so huge that it can chew through prots as if they were never even there to begin with. Even 45% will not save you.

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 minute ago, Viking4s said:

I believe it is only for Hull alteration.

That's not my take-away from watching the video.

They said all alterations, including turret, will be available in Ultra Containers.

Then they said alterations (no specific mention of "hull") will no longer be avaialble for crystals or TKs.  And since only turret alts are available for crystals it's safe to assume turret alts are included in the "only".

[gio_the_killer 836]

wait... turret alterations will be moved to ultra containers as well? this means we won't be able to buy them from garage?

[Invitation 18]

Actually screw this game

you want us to obtain hull alts through conts only?

You might have just said "buyers welcome" and "non buyers please leave the game"

extremely unfair

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 minute ago, Tidebreaker said:

IM's damage increase is so huge that it can chew through prots as if they were never even there to begin with. Even 45% will not save you.

Two things.

1) Clearly the IM alt is OP and a dumb decision by Devs

2) Either way you will die.  One is not better than the other if both are OP and both kill you

[tankpod1 27]

1 minute ago, gio_the_killer said:

wait... turret alterations will be moved to ultra containers as well? this means we won't be able to buy them from garage?

maybe so

[wolverine848 13,097]

Just now, Invitation said:

you want us to obtain hull alts through conts only?

From the video it sounds like ALL alterations will only be avaiable in the containers.  No more turret alts in the garage.

[Tidebreaker 1,669]

1 minute ago, wolverine848 said:

Two things.

1) Clearly the IM alt is OP and a dumb decision by Devs

2) Either way you will die.  One is not better than the other if both are OP and both kill you

Sad truth, unfortunately.

[Tidebreaker 1,669]

Anyway, it looks like tomorrow's discount will be the last opportunity for you to buy alts, although with only a 30% sale.

So think carefully.

[gio_the_killer 836]

Actually, it's 25% sale, not 30%
either way, gonna buy last 4 alterations and my alteration collection will be full for turrets.

[Nicola_M 173]

1 hour ago, Tidebreaker said:

IM's damage increase is so huge that it can chew through prots as if they were never even there to begin with. Even 45% will not save you.

 

1 hour ago, Tidebreaker said:

Anyway, it looks like tomorrow's discount will be the last opportunity for you to buy alts, although with only a 30% sale.

So think carefully.

Looks like Sunday's gonna be a fire sale of IM alts then, for those of us with enough crystals saved up.

[kydapoot 570]

2 hours ago, Tidebreaker said:

They will be replacing regular containers, so don't even worry about availability.

Awesome!

I checked the rarities though, and the alts are the second rarest. I guess it'll just have to come down to time and dumb luck.

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, kydapoot said:

Awesome!

I checked the rarities though, and the alts are the second rarest. I guess it'll just have to come down to time and dumb luck.

Ultra Containers are not replacing regular containers.  They are only offered during special events - that's what they meant by "available for missions" - special missions.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Just now, At_Shin said:

Didn't the vlog say otherwise?

watch it again - specifically mentions "exclusively during special events".

There's not a chance they give you Ultra Containers for finishing weekly  missions.

[Marcus 17,296]

14 hours ago, P_O_T_A_T_O said:

Now that's just PURE SCAM right there !!!

people spent THOUSANDS of crystals to MU their modules, and just like that you remove a very important feature that they owned just to sell it one more time as an alteration ?

PURE NONSENSE !!

Hey

 

I understand how it looks like BUT this is not the reason why we made hull alterations. This update brought a new way of customizing your tank and this is the reason why we released it.

 

Firebird and Freeze protection modules didn't work in the way how protection modules should work. Protection modules should protect you from turrets' damage. Thus, this update fixed wrong behaviour of these modules.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

12 minutes ago, Marcus said:

Firebird and Freeze protection modules didn't work in the way how protection modules should work. Protection modules should protect you from turrets' damage. Thus, this update fixed wrong behaviour of these modules.

Why did it take so long to realise this though? Was it not compatible with the previous game balance throughout the years? 

[Nicola_M 173]

14 minutes ago, Marcus said:

Firebird and Freeze protection modules didn't work in the way how protection modules should work. Protection modules should protect you from turrets' damage. Thus, this update fixed wrong behaviour of these modules.

 

Well these hull alterations haven't fixed the wrong behaviour, has it?

For a start, only players with Hunter get that "fix" (and only if they're lucky enough to open the right Ultra container).

What about users of other hulls?  We're currently screwed by Vulcan needing two modules, but so far we stay screwed unless we buy/use Hunter?

Great "update fix." /sarcasm.

[Marcus 17,296]

On 4/23/2020 at 5:21 PM, wolverine848 said:

Alterations are supposed to make your equipment perform differently.  Turret alts come with a buff and a nref to keep them balanced.

What are the nerfs that come with these hull alterations?

I am sure that our Game Designers keep an eye on game balance. We have two GDs so full set of eyes is watching 

As well, we will be collecting your feedback and pass it to them.

[Marcus 17,296]

14 minutes ago, Nicola_M said:

 

Well these hull alterations haven't fixed the wrong behaviour, has it?

For a start, only players with Hunter get that "fix" (and only if they're lucky enough to open the right Ultra container).

What about users of other hulls?  We're currently screwed by Vulcan needing two modules, but so far we stay screwed unless we buy/use Hunter?

Great "update fix." /sarcasm.

Alterations for other hulls will be released a bit later but soon.

[Nicola_M 173]

Just now, Marcus said:

Alterations for other hulls will be released a bit later but soon.

You missed the point.

Players without those alterations will get slaughtered.

Even if you release them later, players will continue to get slaughtered until the day they open the right Ultra container.

 

Don't you understand?  Players won't stick around waiting for that day.

[Marcus 17,296]

On 4/23/2020 at 4:48 PM, Benefactor said:

Wait. What???

Titan's OD does not protect you from bombs which were placed after you had placed Titan's dome BUT protects you from bombs which had been placed before you placed Titan's dome.

[Marcus 17,296]

1 minute ago, Nicola_M said:

You missed the point.

Players without those alterations will get slaughtered.

Even if you release them later, players will continue to get slaughtered until the day they open the right Ultra container.

 

Don't you understand?  Players won't stick around waiting for that day.

Well, we will see how this release will affect the game balance and if something is wrong we will fix it for sure.