Augments are back!

[The_Pakistani 16,768]

3 minutes ago, Maf said:

From what I understand, all alterations are still in containers. So now you just have more ways to get them. Granted - it's not easy and the TK prices aren't realistic for a F2P player, but you CAN get them from containers.

Still in container? It should be mentioned there too in announcement.

[Maf 32,300]

I do wonder though why only 2 alterations are in the cheapest category. I'd expect some of the more basic ones to be quite cheap too, like high pressure pump, or stabilised/destabilised rounds.

Perhaps it's based on how much additional power they give.

 

[TheRealHZFJ 707]

6 minutes ago, Maf said:

I do wonder though why only 2 alterations are in the cheapest category. I'd expect some of the more basic ones to be quite cheap too, like high pressure pump, or stabilised/destabilised rounds.

Perhaps it's based on how much additional power they give.

 

Thats something i wondered aswell... there should be three levels of pricing when it comes to augments and they should be equal on how many augments are there, like 50k, 100k and 150k and those TK hulls should costs less.
With that said i think each TK augment should be like 2k - 3k ( since if u just give it cheap, people gonna buy EMP / Stun Immunity so bye bye balance ) but thats why we need augments to stay in containers, but they should have their own rarity ( somewhere between rare and epic ) and u cant get that rarity again once u have all augments.

Edited May 7, 2020 by TheRealHZFJ

[Maf 32,300]

7 minutes ago, TheRealHZFJ said:

and those TK hulls should costs less

With the hull alts I kind of get it. The idea is to make them less common so that the corresponding turrets don't suffer as much. So there may be 1 or 2 players with the hull alts on the enemy team, and yes - they will be OP, but at least it's not like the whole enemy team is immune to fire while you're playing with firebird.

You could say that it won't happen anyway because different people would be using different hull alterations and it would be very unlikely to get a whole enemy team that decides to be immune to fire, but with 5 useful battle alterations divided among 8 enemies, the odds of lots of enemies being protected from your turret are about the same as for modules, of which there are 14 and 3 slots. 

It's another story when the alt is used to completely mitigate Vulcan's main disadvantage - that one is really game-breaking. I really hope Devs will devise a different kind of disadvantage to counteract that combo.

[II.Wolves.Is.Snow.II 0]

you say who the thunder and the railgun would be less used, but put an update that makes the icebreaker, flames and other changes that cause these burning and freezing effects to be less used, review your updates

[wolverine848 13,097]

20 minutes ago, AV-Gamers said:

All things have some advantages and disadvantages points. Not everyone likes everything, but in my opinion this update is better than the previous update. Atleast augment are back in the garage again. I know many non-buyers disappointed because of the hull augment but i want to told you i am non-buyer too but it's just depends on your perspective how you take this update in a positive or negative way.

 

If it does not benefit me I'll be taking it as negative.

My Fox module has been rendered useless - all those crystals spent for nothing.  And surprise-surprise - there a lots of firebirds in battle.  And you know why? Because they realize defenders have NO protection against compact tanks.

[Stacks 3]

you don't need that much money to run a game why u keep making the game worst i dont get it be happy with the 1k players left stop this greed and hunger for more money 

[The_Pakistani 16,768]

11 minutes ago, Maf said:

I do wonder though why only 2 alterations are in the cheapest category. I'd expect some of the more basic ones to be quite cheap too, like high pressure pump, or stabilised/destabilised rounds.

Perhaps it's based on how much additional power they give.

 

Heat immunity with vulcan is too OP, that's why..

[ILiveOnTheChatBox123 936]

Devs, you can have this for crystals and tankoins. Price, 1,000,000,000,000 crystals and 1,000,000 tankoins at 6 per week. How is this supposed to help?

[The_Professional 125]

28 minutes ago, Maf said:

From what I understand, all alterations are still in containers. So now you just have more ways to get them. Granted - it's not easy and the TK prices aren't realistic for a F2P player, but you CAN get them from containers.

Are you sure about that? They're still in containers?

[TheRealHZFJ 707]

10 minutes ago, Stacks said:

you don't need that much money to run a game why u keep making the game worst i dont get it be happy with the 1k players left stop this greed and hunger for more money 

You actually do, u need to money to run a server and update it ( since a server has RAM, SSD like every other PC and stuff ) which are more expensive than buying it for a personal computer. Also new tech comes all the time so.. ( like new Ram generation is coming 2021 and will become mainstream in 2022 - 2023 ).
You also need to pay devs, artists and game designers, community managers, janitors ( dev room's need to be cleaned, they cant work in junk ) and so on... and those salaries need to be enough so they can actually pay bills and buy food / clothes and other stuff.

This is just me saying what i know, and i assume there is even more. 
Also keep in mind that comparing to 2014, the development team has actually doubled.

Edited May 7, 2020 by TheRealHZFJ

[TheRealHZFJ 707]

Just now, The_Professional said:

Are you sure about that? They're still in containers?

I mean one of the alts changed rarities ( in containers ) in this update so i assume they are still obtainable thru containers.

[The_Professional 125]

3 minutes ago, TheRealHZFJ said:

I mean one of the alts changed rarities ( in containers ) in this update so i assume they are still obtainable thru containers.

Hope so

[TheRealHZFJ 707]

Just now, The_Professional said:

Hope so

I mean its one of the ways non-buyers can get Tankoin or crystal expensive augments so

[sharifsahaf 656]

4 hours ago, TheRealHZFJ said:

I got 2 alts ( one rare and one epic ), legendary paint and color shot in 20 containers so....

then ur really lucky .i spent 200 mines opened the mission cont and got 125 mines . i mean are u fking kidding me?i only get stupid supplies like mines and speed boosts and when i do get legendary items its always non-animated paints or the coolest shot effect for a turret i dont even use .imagine how much it triggered me when i got the electric shot effect for twins (its the best one but i dont use twins like at all ) then id open containers to get 5 golds or 3500 crystals like dude i can make upto 10k a day lol i dont think 3500 crystals is much .if u ask me this sort of rewards should be removed or one should have an increased chance to get a legendary item each item he/she fails to get one

[TheRealHZFJ 707]

Just now, sharifsahaf said:

then ur really lucky .i spent 200 mines opened the mission cont and got 125 mines . i mean are u fking kidding me?i only get stupid supplies like mines and speed boosts and when i do get legendary items its always non-animated paints or the coolest shot effect for a turret i dont even use .imagine how much it triggered me when i got the electric shot effect for twins (its the best one but i dont use twins like at all ) then id open containers to get 5 golds or 3500 crystals like dude i can make upto 10k a day lol i dont think 3500 crystals is much .if u ask me this sort of rewards should be removed or one should have an increased chance to get a legendary item each item he/she fails to get one

3.5k is better than 1k which u get from a gold box if u ask me, but true, still tho the crystal on common should be 5k while supplies should be removed outright ( especially mines ).

I also think we should be able to get some Tankoins from normal containers so people who buy containers have a risk of essentially getting nothing ( since they would get like 5 / 10 / 25 for common / uncommon / rare rarity and one container is 150TK so... ),while people who just do missions ( mostly non-buyers ) have a way to get some more TK and maybe have the ability to get something from the shop faster comparing to now ( like Battle Pass or something like that ).

BTW its also annoying for me when i see that in Challenge there is a color shot i already own, like its annoying for me and a lot other people, which is why we should Color Shot containers ( maybe even Paint Containers aswell ).

[Joeguy 941]

5 minutes ago, sharifsahaf said:

 .i spent 200 mines opened the mission cont and got 125 mines .

Ouch, that has just got to hurt.  All that time spamming mines, just to get mines....and lose 75 mines in the process.  That is just bloody awful...condolences.

[TheRealHZFJ 707]

Just now, Joeguy said:

Ouch, that has just got to hurt.  All that time spamming mines, just to get mines....and lose 75 mines in the process.  That is just bloody awful...condolences.

none cares about mines at this point so... 

[Thomas11239 366]

I'm not sure if this makes me very happy but at least they have shown they can listen to us

[Thomas11239 366]

Just now, DOUBLE-6 said:

mmmmmm im not convinced 4900 tankoins for the stun effect is a lot of cash

Ikr, that's why I do not think we should celebrate the update itself. It's still quite bad actually.

[Maf 32,300]

49 minutes ago, The_Professional said:

Are you sure about that? They're still in containers?

Well, I'm basing it on the fact that the announcement specifically mentions a rail alt moving from Epic to Rare tier. They wouldn't do that if alts were to be removed from containers anyway.

[ILiveOnTheChatBox123 936]

10 minutes ago, DOUBLE-6 said:

the only way to get this game balanced so its fair for everyone (buyers....non buyers) is for all the buyers to stop buying simple logic really.

Why won't this idea make it fair? View this: 

 

[Pun 902]

I think it's worthwhile to analyze things:

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1) "When we have decided to remove all augments from the Garage we thought that it will be fair solution for all players."

2) "We have seen that when every single one has modules with protection from Thunder or Railgun these turrets lose their popularity and those who liked playing with them do not want to equip them any more."

3) "Thus, we wanted to prevent such situation to happen with hulls and thought that it will help us to save the game’s balance.

 

Why change access to Alterations for turrets as well , if you only meant to help hulls alteration of ruining the game's balance??

I think the answer provided by Tanki is halfhearted as it does escape the main issue and only focuses on a part which is misleading to the core of the issue, which was making content that was available in garage privatized 
 

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Unfortunately, you didn’t like this, and this return of augments to the Garage changed our plans. In order to keep value of augments and updated containers we have to change prices of augments.

 

there's no obligation to "keep value of augments and updated containers" , as Tanki haven't had any extra expenses and could revert to Turrets alterations old self

it's not a valid argument if you only add the words 'in order to ... we have to' it should make sense too

 

Tanki is Sad

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

1 hour ago, Maf said:

Perhaps it's based on how much additional power they give.

Corrosive Mix is too powerful clearly.

[sinasarmast 0]

very very very expensive!

please back to the old price!

please please please