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Overdrive Balance and Parameter Changes  

27 members have voted

  1. 1. Which of the current hull overdrives is the most OP?

    • Wasp
      2
    • Hornet
      18
    • Viking
      1
    • Hunter
      4
    • Dictator
      1
    • Titan
      0
    • Mammoth
      1
  2. 2. What aspect of an Overdrive is MOST important in today's meta?

    • Offensive power (piercing damage, damage boost)
      14
    • Defensive power (damage reduction, area denial)
      1
    • Versatility (effectiveness in multiple scenarios)
      8
    • Status effects (temperature / stun / EMP)
      0
    • Utility (radar / supplies / buffs / bonus OD charge)
      4
  3. 3. What should be done about Hornet OD?

    • Nothing; keep it as-is
      5
    • Ignore modules, do not ignore spawn protection, bonus armor effects from supplies and Drones
      4
    • Ignore bonus armor effects from supplies and Drones, do not ignore spawn protection and modules
      2
    • Remove Double Power on activation and prevent use of Double Power while active, ignore all except spawn protection
      4
    • Only 25-75% of target's combined protections and bonus armor effects will be ignored, except spawn protection
      5
    • Reduce OD charge rate and/or remove ability to gain OD charge while active
      7

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I got a highways tdm match with 8 shafts in total. I didn't see anyone quick scoping. Everybody fully charged up and waiting for someone to pop out. Felt like a night club with all the lasers dancing around.

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I noticed the same thing yesterday. I've had shaft and rapid-fire mode for ages but stopped using it. Now it is more powerful than my fully upgraded turrets. Now we all know that balance doesn't exist in this game...

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1 hour ago, coconuttree said:

There is a parameter called arcade reload time that governs time between acrade shots. So I think number of shots in Viking overdrive remains same.

Unfortunately, RFM with Berserk Reactor is now ridiculously faster than prior Shaft

EDIT: Thanks @GrayWolf8733 for the footage

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Can't figure out how to post videos/GIFs
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1 minute ago, FrozenRailgun said:

That is extremely OP. Pair that with Booster, pure massacre.

Luckily I do not play with Viking, nor have I owned one for years. And so far I haven't encountered any Shaft w/ Berserk Reactors. 

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Just now, BloodPressure said:

Luckily I do not play with Viking, nor have I owned one for years. And so far I haven't encountered any Shaft w/ Berserk Reactors. 

Just tested by using Jitterclicking test, Berserk Reactor with RFM can fire between 5 to 8 shots per seconds. 

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2 hours ago, coconuttree said:

I got a highways tdm match with 8 shafts in total. I didn't see anyone quick scoping. Everybody fully charged up and waiting for someone to pop out. Felt like a night club with all the lasers dancing around.

OMG, that happened to me too. Armies of Shafts everywhere. Kept getting one-shotted even when I have 50% Eagle module equipped. Tried to counter-sniped them using Hornet-Shaft myself, get poofed almost immediately.

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11 minutes ago, Thomas11239 said:

Damn, it seems to get even worse last days. I guess every underused ranged turret will become OP with murder-hornet once?

There's a pattern here - but I just can't place my finger on it.  If only there was some clue...

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14 hours ago, fire199 said:

nope if you read my post its my main source of income its not a bonus. 

if you wanna know why read im getting tired of re posting 

Irrelevant. 

Golds were designed as a BONUS - they are not part of the battle-mode - no matter how much you wish they were.

 

Interestingly... these are quotes from YOU.

"i didn't say you cant kill, i kill too but when gold is falling i dont spawn kill or focus on killing as that ruins my chances of catching it"

"OFC if i had premium i would go for kills as that would be more profitable but im not a buyer".

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On 6/22/2020 at 11:40 AM, wolverine848 said:

Golds are just a bonus.  Anyone complains about being killed during a gold-drop is a whiner.

One falls in my lap - obviously claim it.  Otherwise... cap a flag or use the opportunity to get extra kills.

Ever since mammoth and then hunters OD got harshly nerfed because those gold digging kids complained about them affecting their chances of catching the gold, I have had nothing but the utmost disrespect for the gold box diggers.

 

Nowadays every time I see a gold box digger complaining because they failed to grab the gold, I just want to make snide comments about them. But I stop myself from doing so because unlike them I am at least mature and decent human being.

 

But honestly I think the normal gold boxes should be removed anyway, too much toxicity surrounds one simple item and a small handful of crystals.

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11 minutes ago, DieselPlatinum said:

Ever since mammoth and then hunters OD got harshly nerfed because those gold digging kids complained about them affecting their chances of catching the gold, I have had nothing but the utmost disrespect for the gold box diggers.

 

Nowadays every time I see a gold box digger complaining because they failed to grab the gold, I just want to make snide comments about them. But I stop myself from doing so because unlike them I am at least mature and decent human being.

 

But honestly I think the normal gold boxes should be removed anyway, too much toxicity surrounds one simple item and a small handful of crystals.

a reduce of the amount of goldbox drops but increase in reward could solve it ... but then it would further decrease youre chance of getting one.

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7 hours ago, FrozenRailgun said:

OMG, that happened to me too. Armies of Shafts everywhere. Kept getting one-shotted even when I have 50% Eagle module equipped. Tried to counter-sniped them using Hornet-Shaft myself, get poofed almost immediately.

could it be i have you in my friend list?

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12 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Irrelevant. 

Golds were designed as a BONUS - they are not part of the battle-mode - no matter how much you wish they were.

 

Interestingly... these are quotes from YOU.

"i didn't say you cant kill, i kill too but when gold is falling i dont spawn kill or focus on killing as that ruins my chances of catching it"

"OFC if i had premium i would go for kills as that would be more profitable but im not a buyer".

mate the topic was about gold events not gold in MM which drops once in 3 battles 

let me break it down for you

with premium if get 30 kill i get 3k but without i get 1500

in gold events gold is my main source since i get 1-2 golds even more sometimes and i dont even include containers which give me 3500 or drugs worth 3500 and on top of that i get kills 10- 15 kills  comming up to a lot more crystals 

 

 

yea they were designed to be a bonus but when theres an event and its x10, x20 what do you think the main obejctive is and main source of income 

so basically it dosnt matter if they are a bonus or were designed to be a bonus that dosnt change the fact that it is more profitable and thus becomes the main source of income for non premium users thus it dosnt become a BONUS for me since like i said multiple time i catch 1-2 every battle 

and im not wishing it to be my main source of income the fact is that it just is, unless you cant do maths haha 2500 is more than 1500

 

and if you didn't realize i was using personal pronouns there might be tankers like you who get 0 golds so then it wont be your main source of income now would it and for you it will just be a bonus.  

if i catch golds regular per battle it dosnt become bonus it becomes part of my regular income since i always manage to catch 1-2 every battle. 

 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, DieselPlatinum said:

Ever since mammoth and then hunters OD got harshly nerfed because those gold digging kids complained about them affecting their chances of catching the gold, I have had nothing but the utmost disrespect for the gold box diggers.

 

Nowadays every time I see a gold box digger complaining because they failed to grab the gold, I just want to make snide comments about them. But I stop myself from doing so because unlike them I am at least mature and decent human being.

 

But honestly I think the normal gold boxes should be removed anyway, too much toxicity surrounds one simple item and a small handful of crystals.

hey for you and @wolverine848  if you dont like or care about golds cool thanks for keeping it to yourselves

I on the other hand like golds okay so i hope you dont have a problem with that 

everyone enjoys different aspects of the game some like parkour wars i for one find find them time wasters but thats my opinion i let them enjoy their parkour wars 

you both seem to be very active on the forum so i assume you both like the forum 

 

how would you like it if i said the forum is full of people complaining lets just get rid of the forum since i dont like it.

yea not a good scenario right so lets just all respect what each tanker finds fun in this dying game and try not ruin it. 

 

but hey at least you stopped yourself from making snide comments so yea thanks 

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i also think we are going off topic talking about golds so yea lets drop it and continue our discussion on shaft so the devs can patch it in 3 months right after tankers day sale ? 

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4 hours ago, fire199 said:

mate the topic was about gold events not gold in MM which drops once in 3 battles 

let me break it down for you

with premium if get 30 kill i get 3k but without i get 1500

in gold events gold is my main source since i get 1-2 golds even more sometimes and i dont even include containers which give me 3500 or drugs worth 3500 and on top of that i get kills 10- 15 kills  comming up to a lot more crystals

 

yea they were designed to be a bonus but when theres an event and its x10, x20 what do you think the main obejctive is and main source of income 

so basically it dosnt matter if they are a bonus or were designed to be a bonus that dosnt change the fact that it is more profitable and thus becomes the main source of income for non premium users thus it dosnt become a BONUS for me since like i said multiple time i catch 1-2 every battle 

and im not wishing it to be my main source of income the fact is that it just is, unless you cant do maths haha 2500 is more than 1500

 

and if you didn't realize i was using personal pronouns there might be tankers like you who get 0 golds so then it wont be your main source of income now would it and for you it will just be a bonus.  

if i catch golds regular per battle it dosnt become bonus it becomes part of my regular income since i always manage to catch 1-2 every battle. 

 

The "gold events" you mention still happen in Matchmaker battles.  Does not matter if it's 1x, 2x or 10x.  It's still in a MM battle that has a battle-mode.  Which means it's perfectly reasonable to kill every enemy when opportunity arises.

You want to know what the main objective of "gold events" is?  To get more players in the battle and to have chaos.  The Devs don't care if you are there to get golds.  All they care about is having as many players in the battle and as many supplies used up as possible.  Many, many tanks being destroyed promotes the use of supplies.

And I say again - to everyone else in the battle it is totally irrelevant what YOUR main source of income is.  I'm a non-buyer non-Premium user.  If I want to mass-kill gold-diggers that is my right.  And what do you think happens when all those tanks converge?  If you think most are not hitting space-bar then you are just being naive.

 

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22 hours ago, FrozenRailgun said:

Just tested by using Jitterclicking test, Berserk Reactor with RFM can fire between 5 to 8 shots per seconds. 

36 +/- shots in total to be as precise as possible

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6 hours ago, fire199 said:

you both seem to be very active on the forum so i assume you both like the forum 

 

how would you like it if i said the forum is full of people complaining lets just get rid of the forum since i dont like it.

Personally I would agree because what's the point of having a forum if the devs don't even bother reading the complaints, let alone make some changes based off of them?

Only issue I have with removing the forum is that it opens up more time in my day and since we're still in quarantine.

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11 hours ago, fire199 said:

main source of income

How is catching gold boxes a main source of income? You must be doing these things for it to be like that:

·Not claiming mission rewards.

·Leaving battles just before they end.

10 hours ago, fire199 said:

i also think we are going off topic talking about golds so yea lets drop it and continue our discussion on shaft so the devs can patch it in 3 months right after tankers day sale ? 

Kinda ironic you wanted to drop the topic about golds here especially since you're the one who started it in the first place.

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10 minutes ago, DieselPlatinum said:

How is catching gold boxes a main source of income? You must be doing these things for it to be like that:

·Not claiming mission rewards.

·Leaving battles just before they end.

Kinda ironic you wanted to drop the topic about golds here especially since you're the one who started it in the first place.

You forgot MULTING for Golds in your list ...

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On 6/24/2020 at 2:44 PM, FrozenRailgun said:

You are in my friend list.

 

i remeber. you were using railgun and was prety good in that battle. lets see in the future how you now are  ;  ) ( im planning to upgrade my rail gun to do xp/bp)

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18 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

You forgot MULTING for Golds in your list ...

what the hell are you guys even on about your going so off tangent mate i dont even know where to begin haha

it feels like you dont even read what im saying but just pick off specific points..

are saying that people mult in x20 gold events if they are going for gold ?

 

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