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Overdrive Balance and Parameter Changes  

27 members have voted

  1. 1. Which of the current hull overdrives is the most OP?

    • Wasp
      2
    • Hornet
      18
    • Viking
      1
    • Hunter
      4
    • Dictator
      1
    • Titan
      0
    • Mammoth
      1
  2. 2. What aspect of an Overdrive is MOST important in today's meta?

    • Offensive power (piercing damage, damage boost)
      14
    • Defensive power (damage reduction, area denial)
      1
    • Versatility (effectiveness in multiple scenarios)
      8
    • Status effects (temperature / stun / EMP)
      0
    • Utility (radar / supplies / buffs / bonus OD charge)
      4
  3. 3. What should be done about Hornet OD?

    • Nothing; keep it as-is
      5
    • Ignore modules, do not ignore spawn protection, bonus armor effects from supplies and Drones
      4
    • Ignore bonus armor effects from supplies and Drones, do not ignore spawn protection and modules
      2
    • Remove Double Power on activation and prevent use of Double Power while active, ignore all except spawn protection
      4
    • Only 25-75% of target's combined protections and bonus armor effects will be ignored, except spawn protection
      5
    • Reduce OD charge rate and/or remove ability to gain OD charge while active
      7

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  • Poll closed on 07/09/2020 at 06:00 PM

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Just now, fire199 said:

what the hell are you guys even on about your going so off tangent mate i dont even know where to begin haha

it feels like you dont even read what im saying but just pick off specific points..

are saying that people mult in x20 gold events if they are going for gold ?

 

You read it wrong.  We were implying YOU mult in gold battles - since golds are "your primary source of income".

Only way that's posiible is if you do pretty much nothing else during the battle. So you don't enter battles to help team-mates - you enter battles solely to collect golds.

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18 hours ago, DieselPlatinum said:

How is catching gold boxes a main source of income? You must be doing these things for it to be like that:

·Not claiming mission rewards.

·Leaving battles just before they end.

Kinda ironic you wanted to drop the topic about golds here especially since you're the one who started it in the first place.

you tell me during a gold event battle i can either get 1500 or i can get 2500+ which is more now 

my original post was taking about how i would rather catch golds than kills (here get this during) a GOLD EVENT. 

 

and here you are talking about missions.. ugh 

also i was again using personal pronouns talking about myself not for you okay dam feels like im talking to a kid if Ur posts dont make any more sense to me i not gonna bother replying 

 

plus it seems you dont want to drop this topic about golds ?

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6 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

You read it wrong.  We were implying YOU mult in gold battles - since golds are "your primary source of income".

Only way that's posiible is if you do pretty much nothing else during the battle. So you don't enter battles to help team-mates - you enter battles solely to collect golds.

2 words: Gold events (DM mode) 

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1 minute ago, fire199 said:

2 words: Gold events DM mode please tell me you get this 

There are not enough gold events to make catching golds your "primary source of income".  Try harder - cuz you are failing.

And pretty sure that's more than two words.  failx2.

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2 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

There are not enough gold events to make catching golds your "primary source of income".  Try harder - cuz you are failing.

And pretty sure that's more than two words.  failx2.

wow i hope your happy ? you really out did me there 

again my original post is saying golds are my primary source of income DURING gold events gezzz why does it take the both of you so long to understand that 

 

i can tell both of dont read any of my post or my original post which was talking about 30 kills thats a big hint right there that i was taking about gold event mode DM mode 

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40 minutes ago, fire199 said:

wow i hope your happy ? you really out did me there 

again my original post is saying golds are my primary source of income DURING gold events gezzz why does it take the both of you so long to understand that 

 

i can tell both of dont read any of my post or my original post which was talking about 30 kills thats a big hint right there that i was taking about gold event mode DM mode 

So who cares if it is your primary source (during gold events)?  ONLY YOU DO.  I've said this many times but you still think we should have sympathy for you.  Why do you even mention that - we just don't care.

And... it's DM?... where you kill tanks?  You've argued yourself into a circle again.

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6 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

So who cares if it is your primary source (during gold events)?  ONLY YOU DO.  I've said this many times but you still think we should have sympathy for you.  Why do you even mention that - we just don't care.

And... it's DM?... where you kill tanks?  You've argued yourself into a circle again.

ahh at least you finally agreed that took some convincing didn't it,  thank god haha

hey i didn't ask you to butt in or ask as for sympathy it was your choice to enter the convo ?

if you dont care dont quote me and expect me answer  its thats simple 

and also if you didnt care then we wouldn't be having this convo now would we, what is it now like 2 pages haha 

its not my fault you got your facts wrong no point saying you dont care now

 

plus this is so off topic now you both dont look like you want to drop it.

feel free to PM me from now on ps i wont answer there there also ? 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, fire199 said:

ahh at least you finally agreed that took some convincing didn't it,  thank god haha

hey i didn't ask you to butt in or ask as for sympathy it was your choice to enter the convo ?

if you dont care dont quote me and expect me answer  its thats simple 

and also if you didnt care then we wouldn't be having this convo now would we, what is it now like 2 pages haha 

its not my fault you got your facts wrong no point saying you dont care now

 

plus this is so off topic now you both dont look like you want to drop it.

feel free to PM me from now on ps i wont answer there there also ?

You have a short memory...

You
"that reminds me i need to make new post in ideas and suggestions the topic will be "no kill cap for gold events"

Me:
"Golds are just a bonus.  Anyone complains about being killed during a gold-drop is a whiner."

You
"nope if you read my post its my main source of income its not a bonus.  "

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6 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

You have a short memory...

You
"that reminds me i need to make new post in ideas and suggestions the topic will be "no kill cap for gold events"

Me:
"Golds are just a bonus.  Anyone complains about being killed during a gold-drop is a whiner."

You
"nope if you read my post its my main source of income its not a bonus.  "

whats ur point here now? your just sating what i said what do you want me to respond to that

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I added a 2-wk poll to gather opinions about the current state of ODs in the game (especially Hornet).

Also, please refrain from going off-topic. We are here to discuss the impact of the newest equipment meta on the game, not gold-digging and drop zone etiquette.

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26 minutes ago, fire199 said:

also can you use emojis in ur argument it feels too serious otherwise ? 

I'm just gonna say it right now. Most of your statements here are so ridiculous and so full of crap that it's making everyone lose brain cells just reading them.

One thing you got right though is that if you catch more than one gold during the battle, it would sum up a bit more than your earnings from battle. And if you play enough, it could be more than what you get from containers.

 

The downside however is that you would have to work your ass off to make gold boxes a main source of crystals, and not everyone can do that. It's just easier to complete missions and claim the rewards. But whatever floats your boat I guess.

 

Also I can't use emojis as they are now, they would just freeze up my tablet. And not that I want to use them anyway, they're just pure cringe.

 

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7 minutes ago, Viking4s said:

Seems like RFM has been debuffed Patch update #609 - Released 1st July 2020

Hope this can handle armies of Eagles.

For the poll, I would say both:

  • Ignore bonus armor effects from supplies and Drones, do not ignore spawn protection and modules
  • Remove Double Power on activation and prevent use of Double Power while active, ignore all except spawn protection 

I would make it:

  • Ignore armor effects but partically modules by 35% (by additively, leaving 15% defence left) and does not ignore spawn invulnerability.
  • Render Booster Drone effect useless when Double Power and OD both activated at the same time.

 

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11 minutes ago, Viking4s said:

Seems like RFM has been debuffed Patch update #609 - Released 1st July 2020

Most of the patch seems to be reasonable, but the Hornet OD question still remains. The slight Twins DPS and Viking OD buff seems a bit random, but I'm guessing it's prep for when Ares and Tesla drop. Only time will tell...

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Did RFM get buffed or nerfed?   Would be great for a Mod to clarify what firing rate measured in ms means...

270 ms to 375 ms is... that better or worse?

How the heck is firing rate measured in ms?

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1 minute ago, wolverine848 said:

Did RFM get buffed or nerfed?   Would be great for a Mod to clarify what firing rate measured in ms means...

270 ms to 375 ms is... that better or worse?

How the heck is firing rate measured in ms?

ms = milliseconds

 

The recovery rate was nerfed. The delay between the arcade shots was likely buffed. 

 

270 ms to 375 ms is worse, but there may be an error in the Patch Notes for that. Server restart in in 3 hours, just wait until then. 

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1 minute ago, TheCongoSpider said:

ms = milliseconds

 

The recovery rate was nerfed. The delay between the arcade shots was likely buffed. 

 

270 ms to 375 ms is worse, but there may be an error in the Patch Notes for that. Server restart in in 3 hours, just wait until then. 

so really that is RELOAD... every 270/375 ms it fires again.

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12 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

so really that is RELOAD... every 270/375 ms it fires again.

For RFM, It's best to say firing rate or delay. Reload for Shaft can be confused with the recovery rate of energy and the "arcade shot reload". As seen by the recent recovery rate buff for Shaft, the "arcade shot reload" that you see in the garage is a delay. 

 

If your Shaft's energy is recovering and you shoot an arcade shot when 95% of your energy recovered and it fully recovers before 1.5 seconds, you won't be able to go into sniping mode or fire another arcade shot until that 1.5 seconds is up. I can send a short video if you still don't catch what I'm saying. 

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37 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Did RFM get buffed or nerfed?   Would be great for a Mod to clarify what firing rate measured in ms means...

270 ms to 375 ms is... that better or worse?

How the heck is firing rate measured in ms?

worse think it's just over 1/10th sec ms is 1/1000 sec if i guess right.

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How ironic, within barely 14 days Rapid Fire Mode got both buffed and nerfed. Making full use of you arcade shots is going to be more intensive than previously - this goes for all Shaft-augments, but will affect RFM most

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