declined Gear score

[wolverine848 13,097]

16 minutes ago, DageLV said:

if i dont know how to manage crystals... Explain mk5 and mk6 gear in WO5 without buying. And this Pudingos guy is even more extreme. Tanki thinks the battle is the same difficulty for him and any other average WO4 player. Thats not true...
Youre saying im arguing in circles to support my suggestion, ehh, kinda. Why? Cause u havent been able to provide anything decent against it.

You are so obtuse.

You're entire argument is punishing players who have better equipment.  Players who could have easily earned that better equipment.  Your idea encourages people to NOT improve their items and get better than someone else.

It's irrelevant if something is harder for someone because they could not manage their crystals and have crappy equipment. And of course the battle is easier for players with better equipment.  Why do you think they upgrade?

You ignore everything anyone posts - all the arguments - because they don't support your silly suggestion.

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, r_trooll15 said:

yep, that wont help when you have people like this:

https://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/PudingosKekszesTorta

M to mk conversion.  That's how that happened and it won't happen again.

That same player could start a new account tomorrow would not have possibility to repeat that.

[r_trooll15 827]

44 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

M to mk conversion.  That's how that happened and it won't happen again.

That same player could start a new account tomorrow would not have possibility to repeat that.

except that its still not a fair fight for us

[LeTs.Go.ChAmP 5]

13 hours ago, Mr.Nibbles said:

The other idea is to matchmake based on MM, and that would lead to EVEN less fair battles. The system that is in place currently isn't as bad as you think; you only find a max of 1-2 players with very high GS per battle, which is better than seeing 3-4 if battles were based on GS (because people would just change to their lowest-level equipment, and immediately switch to their best GS combo after getting in battle).

xDD. you wont believe it but i played with effing field marshalls when i am first lieutenant, they had gs above 7500 while i had about 4000, so almost every guy in that battle had 1.5 times better tanks than mine

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

2 hours ago, DageLV said:

if i dont know how to manage crystals... Explain mk5 and mk6 gear in WO5 without buying. And this Pudingos guy is even more extreme. Tanki thinks the battle is the same difficulty for him and any other average WO4 player. Thats not true...
Youre saying im arguing in circles to support my suggestion, ehh, kinda. Why? Cause u havent been able to provide anything decent against it.

While that Pudingos account is most likely a buyer account, @wolverine848's statement of crystal management does hold water.

For example I have two low rank FTP accounts that are the similar rank range of each other.

Account A has too many mk4s and mk3s most of which only have a few MUs, and crap selection of modules. TheWetDiaper

Account B has a few mk3 turrets which are fully MUed, a few mk4s which are about 8 or 9 steps, and even an mk5 smoky which is 9/10 in MUs, and a good selection of modules. VikingPrime

Also to note that both accounts bought a few alterations when they were still only 20k-45k crystals.

So while Account A isn't too bad for its rank, Account B can be considered overpowered.

 

So don't bash wolverine about his crystal management statement because it in fact holds water. And if you want to accuse me of making claims without proof, well don't bother as I won't reply to that. I'm just only here to say it how it is.

[DageLV 71]

4 hours ago, DieselPlatinum said:

While that Pudingos account is most likely a buyer account, @wolverine848's statement of crystal management does hold water.

For example I have two low rank FTP accounts that are the similar rank range of each other.

Account A has too many mk4s and mk3s most of which only have a few MUs, and crap selection of modules. TheWetDiaper

Account B has a few mk3 turrets which are fully MUed, a few mk4s which are about 8 or 9 steps, and even an mk5 smoky which is 9/10 in MUs, and a good selection of modules. VikingPrime

Also to note that both accounts bought a few alterations when they were still only 20k-45k crystals.

So while Account A isn't too bad for its rank, Account B can be considered overpowered.

 

So don't bash wolverine about his crystal management statement because it in fact holds water. And if you want to accuse me of making claims without proof, well don't bother as I won't reply to that. I'm just only here to say it how it is.

Yeah, but is your op acc a legit account or smurf? 

[Benefactor 6,889]

1 hour ago, DageLV said:

Yeah, but is your op acc a legit account or smurf? 

What's a "smurf"?

[wolverine848 13,097]

8 hours ago, r_trooll15 said:

except that its still not a fair fight for us

For now it is not.  But those accounts will advance much faster than you and will soon be out of sight.  IT IS TEMPORARY.

Going forward, with more mk-splits based on rank, the gap in GS will be smaller than it has been for years.

The outsanding issue is MatchMaker rank-brackets.  If they are too wide the mk-splits won't matter.  Campaign for tighter rank-brackets.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

4 hours ago, DageLV said:

Yeah, but is your op acc a legit account or smurf? 

Type it in the ratings page. And see for yourself.

[DageLV 71]

5 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

For now it is not.  But those accounts will advance much faster than you and will soon be out of sight.  IT IS TEMPORARY.

Going forward, with more mk-splits based on rank, the gap in GS will be smaller than it has been for years.

The outsanding issue is MatchMaker rank-brackets.  If they are too wide the mk-splits won't matter.  Campaign for tighter rank-brackets.

You do know, you dont play with only the same few people all the time, right?
Player A with op gear will rank up quicker than Player B with bad gear, but it doesnt mean its temporary. Why? Cause another Player A will take its place...

[wolverine848 13,097]

35 minutes ago, DageLV said:

You do know, you dont play with only the same few people all the time, right?
Player A with op gear will rank up quicker than Player B with bad gear, but it doesnt mean its temporary. Why? Cause another Player A will take its place...

All those players got their mk7.0 at the same time.   They either don't play (not in battles so no issue)  or they play and rank up fast.

There are no new players receiving that benefit.  No one to "replace" that player A when player A ranks up.

[DageLV 71]

3 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

All those players got their mk7.0 at the same time.   They either don't play (not in battles so no issue)  or they play and rank up fast.

There are no new players receiving that benefit.  No one to "replace" that player A when player A ranks up.

?
If youre WO4, with gear score of 3000. You meet a player with gear score 5000. By the logic "theyll quickly rank up and be out of sight" means that you will never, not once see another player with gear score 5000 which is just plain wrong. If the guy you played today ranks up, what stops the guy who was lower to now rank up to your rank and continue what the previous guy did?

[wolverine848 13,097]

15 minutes ago, DageLV said:

?
If youre WO4, with gear score of 3000. You meet a player with gear score 5000. By the logic "theyll quickly rank up and be out of sight" means that you will never, not once see another player with gear score 5000 which is just plain wrong. If the guy you played today ranks up, what stops the guy who was lower to now rank up to your rank and continue what the previous guy did?

Never said that.

I said the players that inherited mk7.0 items during the conversion will rank up fast and leave you in the rearview mirror.

I was responding to someone who responded to my post about m-to-mk conversion.  Puding only has mk7 items because of the conversion.