Complaint Book

[Moraine 5,877]

I don't make it sound like that, go through topics and check for yourself how it is for real. And as for criticism, keep it constructive since that's how you can best help the project, which is our goal since the first post of this topic.

[Pyre 3,485]

Containers was a decent update. 

 

The newer "weekly" missions that can take up to 3 weeks to complete?  Not so much...

Yeah, they made it harder, but its still better than it was before containers.

[OKDad70 862]

Wolverine, Ostrica has a point.

 

For myself, I complain about what I think is most important to change to help the overall game.

 

Ostrica says many complain endlessly. I've changed what I complain about over the years.

 

I didn't start saying I'd quite until I really thought I would, and I did quit. I was out for over 11 months. I'm back. A lot of the same problems. I do try to offer suggestions. I tend to write too much for forum, but my objective is providing information for the Devs.

 

I, for one, appreciate the Mods. Ostrica and Maf perform admirably. It is a Herculean effort. They are usually patient, more than we are.

 

Different people simply have different tastes, preferences, and tolerances.

 

Viking has been emphasizing some of what we (especially you, Wolverine) say about not liking the game any more. I'm one who expresses frustration often.

 

I've occasionally detailed why I keep playing despite frustration, and right now, my determination plus the sparks of fun and occasional worthwhile accomplishments have me playing. I suspect I'll stick it out through Spring regardless. If things are better, and I do hold out hope, good. If not, I think odds are good I'll give up on it again.

 

I've mentioned before that the first couple years I played (2014, 2015), I was willing to spend money on the game. It seemed worth it to me. Now, I spend a little, but begrudgingly to get the edge that seems required, or the extra line of rewards for the Challenge. To quantify, some will think it high, others trivial, I spent about $500 on me and my two sons in my first 30 months of playing. Since, I'm up to about $50.

 

Money from us players, voluntarily for stuff in the game, is how this one works. I used to think it worth it. Now, I'm not convinced.

 

My point, though my frustrations are high, they aren't quite high enough to give up. On the other hand, my frustrations are high enough I come here often to vent. I trust our patient Mods can keep being patient.

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

 

 

Weekly mission : working on this for more than a week (almost two) now.

Come on, Alternativa!

For a good player this might be a piece of cake, but for an average player like me this is almost impossible. And surely I am not the only one struggling with this kind of missions. :angry:

And even if I end up in the top 3 of a loosing party I get nothing!

These kind of missions should be banned. 

That, we should get 20k crystals guarenteed if that mission was completed.

 

You are probably right about Alternativa need to remove that mission though.

Edited December 26, 2018 by ControlledChaos
Kindly put the images in quotes into a spoiler.

[Pedro48_a7x 145]

Oh my GOD! It's 2019 soon, and you still haven't fixed the 9 vs 7 glitch yet!!!!

 

I'm starting to wonder what use you are doing with the money I give you. Are you actually working on fixing this issue? We lost 50-7 or something like that. Of course! 9 vs 7! I thought the Match Making Failing System was the answer to all the problems in Tanki?????

 

Seriously, it's not the first time I see this, and I see it more and more in the past days. Let me guess, devs are aware of this and are working on it? Great.

 

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

 

 

I played a couple rounds with OKDad70 today, one with Viking-Twins, one with Titan-Thunder (both M4, no drones). Both were slaughters. The first, with the Twins was hard fought, but my team won 7-0 at about the 7-minute mark. The next was 7-0 at about the 4-minute mark. I got in at the beginning and only had time for 7 kills (no deaths). It was a spawnkill-fest as soon as my team was able to cross the map. What gives? That battle had no chance for the other team from the first seconds. They got zero stars. If I noticed correctly, one on our team received no stars. I assume he just couldn't get in the right place to score any kills during the slaughter.

 

It is sad. MM is broke. BROKE! Fix it. (No, abandon it; make it entirely optional regarding rewards.)

 

With only 7 kills, I must have had enough to get over the no-stars threshold. I didn't notice my score. Seven kills and no deaths with no Stars would have ticked me off a bit more than normal. I'm glad I didn't fall victim to such abuse. The Stars threshold is abuse.

Dang..... 7 kills no death but no stars?!??! Aye.. that happened to me too.

 

 

 

I assume this won't be officially addressed, but consider "katya-yaga, First Lieutenant". (Gear Score 6999)

 

How does a Viking-Rail First Lieutenant, even if he is a buyer with an unlimited budget, get 11.56 K/D?

 

It seems nearly certain he is a camper, but I (Captain Riconot) just saw him in a battle (Highways-DM) with 47 kills. 47 kills in under 8 minutes? Were most of the players simply lining up in rows for him? (His K/D in that battle was 47, yes, 47 kills, one death.)

 

Hacked? I doubt it, but dang, stats like that are more than remarkable.

 

Gear score: Falling Leaves paint, no XTs. I assume fully MU'd M2s. I assume a fully MU'd Assault drone. All 14 protections, two at M2 level. Supplies look nonlimiting. He does like JGR. Maybe that is the key to the K/D. Still, he had 47 kills in a standard MM DM. How?

katya-yaga?! I saw that dude too! One time I tried to snipe him, but that dude had 25% Shaft defence (now he probably have 35%).

 

This is him: Survived my MU-ed to M2 Shaft shot, pops a repair kit and undone that damage I dealt to him. And the drones.

 

The drones! That part pisses of me the most.

 

I have a huge problem with modules, He's a great example.

 

 

 

Oh my GOD! It's 2019 soon, and you still haven't fixed the 9 vs 7 glitch yet!!!!

 

I'm starting to wonder what use you are doing with the money I give you. Are you actually working on fixing this issue? We lost 50-7 or something like that. Of course! 9 vs 7! I thought the Match Making Failing System was the answer to all the problems in Tanki?????

 

Seriously, it's not the first time I see this, and I see it more and more in the past days. Let me guess, devs are aware of this and are working on it? Great.

 

 

Yeah, I threw like 100 USD for Alternativa and hope they can solve this issue. Instead... more problem were created. Edited December 27, 2018 by CooperO
Posts merged, kindly use the MultiQuote function.

[cyborg11b 95]

The devs really are a lot better than you people give them credit for. Its not easy to work on this old game, especially with such a small team. Managing to keep this game alive for over 9 years with no end in sight... its amazing. I'm not saying that they dont make mistakes, they certainly do, but cut them some slack.

What I notice is that they spend a lot of time in new things : competitions, colours, challenges, bundles, ... Just look at the landing-page of TO.

Maybe they should stop for a while introducing new stuff and concentrate on fixing things that don't work like MatchMaking, hacks, mults, ...

 

I often see this at work too : something works for approx. 80% and off we go to the next project. Good for the image, people see that you are very busy busy busy creating new stuff. That the 'finished' projects don't function the way they should seems to be of no concern.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Maybe the player bought a bunch of gold boxes and had a Pro-battle goldbox party with a couple of friends.

 

I've recorded and reported cheaters. I've missed recording and reported anyway, hoping to establish a little extra evidence, but most of the cheating I see, I can't really prove. Tanki takes the same attitude. Some things look like cheating but have reasonable explanations. I try not to be harsh when I'm not sure. (I try. Sometimes I fail.)

Like I mentioned in my post, the PRO battle pass unlocks at Warrant Officer 1 so that theory is debunked. I made a slight mistake in the sentence I said it in though. I don't want to edit it for someone to accuse me of changing wrong information or anything. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

Dude, you are crazy. Isida can take out two tanks in five seconds. Nothing else can do that. Well, I suppose Freeze and Firebird can, but that is a point I've made often. The short range weapons are totally OP.

 

I've played Twins too many hours to listen to anyone pretend it is OP. Twins is a brawler. Keep a little distance, and you can beat it any time. Not so for Isida. It just kills you.

 

 

 

Of course, if you want to play my game and ram me and brawl, yeah, I'll beat you two out of three. Unless you are using Isida or Freeze.

 

I didn't say DM is a format mode, but it is just like the format modes. It would be easy to not allow Isida in DM. DM probably shouldn't allow Magnum either.

 

If there is more than one Hammer in a battle, I put on my 40+ protection. Hammer ceases to be any concern. My 40+ Isida (and Freeze) protection don't really make much difference.

 

 

What two tanks can Isida kill in 5 seconds?  Two light hulls that are just sitting there maybe... and not moving... or doing anything.

 

And Twins... can easily kill 2 light hulls - from farther away.

 

I don't make it sound like that, go through topics and check for yourself how it is for real. And as for criticism, keep it constructive since that's how you can best help the project, which is our goal since the first post of this topic.

I've offered many suggestions for improvements many times - they fall on deaf ears.

 

Devs would rather introduce new bells and whistles rather than fix the updates they make that do not work properly (hello Match-Maker).

After all - that's more cost-effective.

 

Wolverine, Ostrica has a point.

 

For myself, I complain about what I think is most important to change to help the overall game.

 

Ostrica says many complain endlessly. I've changed what I complain about over the years.

 

 

 

I didn't start saying I'd quite until I really thought I would, and I did quit. I was out for over 11 months. I'm back. A lot of the same problems. I do try to offer suggestions. I tend to write too much for forum, but my objective is providing information for the Devs.

 

I, for one, appreciate the Mods. Ostrica and Maf perform admirably. It is a Herculean effort. They are usually patient, more than we are.

 

Different people simply have different tastes, preferences, and tolerances.

 

Viking has been emphasizing some of what we (especially you, Wolverine) say about not liking the game any more. I'm one who expresses frustration often.

 

I've occasionally detailed why I keep playing despite frustration, and right now, my determination plus the sparks of fun and occasional worthwhile accomplishments have me playing. I suspect I'll stick it out through Spring regardless. If things are better, and I do hold out hope, good. If not, I think odds are good I'll give up on it again.

 

I've mentioned before that the first couple years I played (2014, 2015), I was willing to spend money on the game. It seemed worth it to me. Now, I spend a little, but begrudgingly to get the edge that seems required, or the extra line of rewards for the Challenge. To quantify, some will think it high, others trivial, I spent about $500 on me and my two sons in my first 30 months of playing. Since, I'm up to about $50.

 

 

 

Money from us players, voluntarily for stuff in the game, is how this one works. I used to think it worth it. Now, I'm not convinced.

 

My point, though my frustrations are high, they aren't quite high enough to give up. On the other hand, my frustrations are high enough I come here often to vent. I trust our patient Mods can keep being patient.

This is my point.  Many players have frustrations because the Devs won't/can't fix some of the glaring issues.

 

But Viking brushes that aside as our problem.

 

It's not just me (or you).  It's many players.  If every player who had frustration with the way the game is being developed left - they'd have a very small pool of players.

[ORPU 119]

Can I report English insults on the russian forum, since you closed the english violation for no reason??

 

Because in russian rules : "Английская и польская локали жалобы на нарушения чата не принимают."

 

This means they don't accept english and polish complaints. Yet, I insulted some noob a few days ago (if you consider "stupid" in an insult). In english. Then he created a topic on the forum and I was banned one day.

 

So, why russian mods ban english insults if they say they don't in the rules? + they don't know english.

 

Do I have to play the game in russian, so these weirdos will accept my screenshot?

[Moraine 5,877]

No one is forcing you to call other players any names or to break the rules of the game, it's your choice to do so. In order not to get banned for your violations, kindly block anyone who bothers you or disable the chat completely before going into the battle and play in peace. 

 

Also, feel free to contact me if you feel your ban isn't just or is too harsh and we can discuss it.

[ORPU 119]

This does not answer my request.

 

Can I post screenshots of real english insults on the russian forum? Yes or no?

 

Why the rules say that english and polish insults are not allowed in the russian forum? And yet they banned me?

For example, I got called name for using Magnum. Can I post this to the RU forum, even tho I play in the english version of the game?

Is this topic a lie http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=377879

 

Or do the RU mods need to update they rules and say that they accept english insults???

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

Nothing has happened to player v7.7

 

That player is clearly a hacker because by the rank Gefreiter you cannot use Double Armor, Double Damage or Mines.

 

Feels like the complaint book is just meant for players to vent.

 

PS: I'm not frustrated, nor upset, I'm pretty calm.

Edited December 27, 2018 by r_Issimo2

[Moraine 5,877]

When do we know if the Russians are insulting us in Russian? Never! But if I insult a Russian in English I get banned by Russian mod. That has happened to me several times. Why, Ostrica, can't THEY turn off chat or put US on ignore? Doesn't work that way does it?

Why would you insult anyone in any language? Don't do it and you won't get banned, easy. 

 

This does not answer my request.

 

Can I post screenshots of real english insults on the russian forum? Yes or no?

No. It's clearly written on RU forum that it's meant for RU players only. Each community has its own rules regarding reports and those are theirs. So kindly avoid insulting other players from now on and you won't get banned. 

[Moraine 5,877]

If Russians insulted they are going to be banned. In case you didn't notice, they do report their own players. Yours is only to stay out of it, keep calm, block anyone who annoys or bother you and all will be fine. Do better.

[WhiteAlbatross 30]

Nothing has happened to player v7.7

 

That player is clearly a hacker because by the rank Gefreiter you cannot use Double Armor, Double Damage or Mines.

 

Feels like the complaint book is just meant for players to vent.

 

PS: I'm not frustrated, nor upset, I'm pretty calm.

You can use supplies at all ranks.

You can't BUY supplies from garage at that rank, but from shop, or from containers, you can still get supplies.

 

These hackers are the reason why im not playing much these days.

Even vikings are running faster than wasps these days.

And the hackers are there on the test server too.

 

They just ruin the battles. Its worthless to even try and protect the flag. They have this new hack where they are able to get under your tank, and flip it.

It can happen once or twice in a battle due to lag, but the Russian cheaters are very good it.

When it happens 5 times in a battle, it is definitely a hack.

 

I always report using the button, but no mod ever comes and removes them.

 

And no, i'm not going to bother recording them. Too much effort for too little gain.

Better to let the "festive season" pass.

Also, there are other games which I can play, in which there are no cheaters.

 

I have less than 40 stars as of now.

Edited December 27, 2018 by WhiteAlbatross

[sagniksamanta 2]

I am trying to play a quick battle for 10 minutes but it is still not coming.

[Mikaelson 664]

I am trying to play a quick battle for 10 minutes but it is still not coming.

Hey,

 

Sometimes the queue timer glitches out and does not put you in a queue to play a battle. I suggest that if the timer goes over the expected wait time by twenty or so seconds, you close the pop-up and try again. It usually will allow you to get into a battle much faster rather than waiting in queue for over ten minutes.  

[cyborg11b 95]

I am trying to play a quick battle for 10 minutes but it is still not coming.

One of the pleasures of the MatchMaking system, welcome to the club !

Just exit and try again, and again, and again. It will work, eventually.

:angry:

[cyborg11b 95]

After 3 or 4 weeks ...

Pfff, this is becoming very frustrating.
Please devs, add an option to change a weekly mission, or at least 1 of the 3.

 

PS : does any of the developers ever read these posts ? If not, just scrap the whole forum-concept.

Edited December 28, 2018 by cyborg11b

[CooperO 7,956]

PS : does any of the developers ever read these posts ? If not, just scrap the whole forum-concept.

We forward the feedback posted on the forum to them on a weekly basis. Your request has been posted by several players before, so the developers are already aware of the main issues players are having with the current mission system. Improving the mission system is one of the points on their to-do list.

[TaffyTank 1,890]

Seems to be too many battles where a team is outnumbered for the whole battle in MM. Just lost one CP battle in a great team that deserved to win, but lost cos we were 8vs6 for 6 minutes.

Maybe this is something done to appease those complaining about being placed late into battle...fine!. But at least give us the option to opt in or out of being placed into battles that are well underway. A simple tick box in settings would do. If it's ticked, you never get put into a battle that's less than 6 mins left. Some people are happy to be join these battles, possible quick stars and useful for "finish battle" missions.

[OKDad70 862]

We forward the feedback posted on the forum to them on a weekly basis. Your request has been posted by several players before, so the developers are already aware of the main issues players are having with the current mission system. Improving the mission system is one of the points on their to-do list.

And it is far enough down the priorities that they are quite certain they will have it resolved before March of 2020.

[OKDad70 862]

Over the last hour, I find myself doubting I've ever played this game before. I assume the recent sale saw MANY alterations purchased. There are so many alterations I can't tell what is what. There is no telling the capabilities of whatever it is you think you are facing.

 

Chaos. What a wonderful addition to frustration.

 

Please remove the 1st place missions.

 

Please remove all missions to "Take one of the top three places on the winner's team."

 

It is nothing but frustration. Taking fourth by only five points.
Your team losing assault only in the last few seconds. Over and over.

 

Trying to do well is fun. Repeatedly falling just short of one more step in the mission is demoralizing.

 

I truly believe the Devs cannot relate. They don't have the pressure, even if they have the playing time. (And how many of them have significant recent playing time?)

[HairDryer 25]

Even the downloaded Tanki lags heavily sometimes.  I hate when enemy gets with our flag and I can't shoot straight due to heavy lag.    Crap is crap.