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12 minutes ago, Dridrien said:

they have better rewards than you for what they pay.  when you pay the rewards are doubled.  If you had paid you would have had 6 stars and 4000 crystal. I don't see where the problem is.  it's the same in all games of this genre

If we think like your way, there wont be a 259 pages in complaint book, and more than in many other category topics.

But to answer you, yes buyers would to have advantages, but not with exaggerated situation like tanki now. Did you see the extremely unbalanced drones - augments with buyers, or you just a pure Shaft camper didn't know what happen around in the game?

To tell you, F2P players are important for every game, and shaping a big proportion of the players, so if the game is going to the abyss, non-buyers will leave by the time, so buyers after them.

And as you mentioned the other games. the most 2 popular games, PUBG - Fortnite, purely F2P games.

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14 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

 

He was talking specifically about premium account. And to be honest, I haven't seen players complain about premium so far.

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11 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

Si nous pensons comme vous, il n'y aura pas 259 pages dans le livre des plaintes, et plus que dans de nombreux autres sujets de catégorie.

Mais pour vous répondre, oui les acheteurs auraient des avantages, mais pas avec une situation exagérée comme tanki maintenant. Avez-vous vu les drones extrêmement déséquilibrés - des augmentations avec les acheteurs, ou vous juste un simple campeur Shaft ne saviez pas ce qui se passait dans le jeu?

Pour vous dire, les joueurs F2P sont importants pour chaque jeu et façonnent une grande partie des joueurs, donc si le jeu se dirige vers l'abîme, les non-acheteurs partiront d'ici là, donc les acheteurs après eux.

Et comme vous l'avez mentionné les autres jeux. les 2 jeux les plus populaires, PUBG - Fortnite, sont des jeux purement F2P.

i am a non-paying player.  I never pay and I don't use a drone.  I understand that bothers you but that's how it is.  it is not the non-paying ones that will make a match live.  Developers have to be paid and for that you have to give a lot of advantages to what pays.  Tanki is a game, but above all it is a business. No matter how much you complain, nothing will change.

 

And for fortninite, not compare a game where there are millions of people every day to a game that has about 10,000 players a day. 

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22 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

 

Nice, you won, got a better score, etc. 

But he payed to get a better reward. Shouldn't be a problem. He also payed to get better gear.

You pay, you get advantages. That's how it is mate.

25 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

non-buyers will leave by the time, so buyers after them.

Know what, I've thought a lot about this. Non-buyers will never completely leave the game. There's a thing called addiction. There's a thing called loot box. You get one cool reward, you continue to play, hoping to get a better reward. 

Tanki is still enjoyable and will continue to be. It's in the nature of this genre of games. Just that there are times when you really feel as if you're being toyed around by players that spend money in the game. Even then, how many players have you seen who've left because of buyer-dominance? I'm sure the answer is zero.

Players only leave when they've gotten over the childish addiction, or when real life gets demanding. 

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25 minutes ago, Venerable said:

Know what, I've thought a lot about this. Non-buyers will never completely leave the game. There's a thing called addiction. There's a thing called loot box. You get one cool reward, you continue to play, hoping to get a better reward. 

Tanki is still enjoyable and will continue to be. It's in the nature of this genre of games. Just that there are times when you really feel as if you're being toyed around by players that spend money in the game. Even then, how many players have you seen who've left because of buyer-dominance? I'm sure the answer is zero.

Players only leave when they've gotten over the childish addiction, or when real life gets demanding. 

I just mentioned that as an answer to Dridrien, as he went far from my post.

I don't know what you mean by loot box, that it's a metaphor or not. but if you meen the loot box in mobile version, I haven't ever entered the game to accumlate this box, sometimes ever when I opened the game I didn't go to accumulate this box, just to not wasting a seconds on that.

The number of players 10K now, compared to the past denotes that the players left the game. For your question yes, I know a lot players who left just because this..

tbh, your answer is very weird, how did you think about that! Did you think any developer can say that? saying "the game isn't balanced but you as an addicted player you can't leave?"? so this isn't an answer to my question, maybe you just have an opinion don't know where to put

Also I weird how some non-buyers trying hardly to defend about the game, though your K/D is just a 0.9 in Rhombus rank. I assume it's your second account (as I see you active in the forums more than the game). So for sure you're more skilled than to get a 0.9 K/D in low ranks.

Btw, compared to me, I use druggers way way more than you, my Garage compared to ranks is better, my K/D is better. But the difference you try to defend.

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1 hour ago, Venerable said:

Know what, I've thought a lot about this. Non-buyers will never completely leave the game. There's a thing called addiction. There's a thing called loot box. You get one cool reward, you continue to play, hoping to get a better reward. 

Well, they seem to be leaving every year with only 10k players per day instead of 30k or 40k.

Sure the game needs buyers and buyers need an advantage.  But the pendulum of P2W has swung so far to that side that F2P tankers are just quitting because the game is not fun anymore.  Bells and whistles are just short-term fixes. They only last so long.  The game needs more balance or eventually it will be just buyers vs buyers.  We all know what happens then.

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14 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

I don't know what you mean by loot box, that it's a metaphor or not. but if you meen the loot box in mobile version, I haven't ever entered the game to accumlate this box, sometimes ever when I opened the game I didn't go to accumulate this box, just to not wasting a seconds on that

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15 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

The number of players 10K now, compared to the past denotes that the players left the game. For your question yes, I know a lot players who left just because this..

Of course the player-base has declined. That might as well be because players have temporarily shifted over to other equally exciting games, if not more. Or it might be because older players have left due to busy lives, and there aren't enough new players replacing them. There are quite a lot of other popular and fun games that catch the younger players' fancy. To be honest, most of it is pure speculation, and I could be terribly wrong. But my instinct and mind tells me that players haven't left Tanki because they're getting destroyed excessively by buyers.

There are some players who don't play for fun, but for stuff like K/D ratio, or purely winning, or something similar. They even leave battles if they think that they'll lose or if they're getting killed too much. I think those players can easily get bored by this game, and will definitely leave the game if they get wrecked by buyers excessively. 

22 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

the game isn't balanced but you as an addicted player you can't leave

That's actually true for addicted players. And most of the player-base is addicted to the game.

 

23 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

some non-buyers trying hardly to defend about the game, though your K/D is just a 0.9 in Rhombus rank. I assume it's your second account (as I see you active in the forums more than the game). So for sure you're more skilled than to get a 0.9 K/D in low ranks.

I'm not "defending" the game. I never said or felt that the game is perfect. The game has quite a lot of problems. Yet we're still here, discussing the problems, playing battles, hoping that the game will become more balanced. You yourself don't seem to like how the game is functioning right now. How do you explain the fact that you are still playing?

Now my K/D is something I absolutely don't care about. And I don't see how K/D even comes into this discussion. 

Yep, this is my alternate account, made majorly for the Forum. My main account is SHREYA88. It has a K/D of 0.58 I think. Not so nice, eh? But well, it was worse before...

I've always played the game for fun. And when you have fun in Tanki, more often than not you end up dying more than you kill.

29 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

Btw, compared to me, I use druggers way way more than you, my Garage compared to ranks is better, my K/D is better. But the difference you try to defend.

Oh, I agree that you are more skilled. Getting a good K/D is definitely a skill. But I don't really see how it affects my intellectual abilities... you may even have a really good account, well-managed for an F2P player. 

Again, I'm not "defending" the game at all. It appears so because I'm saying that "players won't leave Tanki". That doesn't mean that Tanki is perfect, or that it's doing a great job right now. And Tanki will never be totally balanced. That's impossible. There will always be a disparity between buyers and non-buyers. 

Please read my post very carefully once again. I'm sure you'll get my point. Otherwise, feel free to PM me.

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7 minutes ago, Venerable said:

How do you explain the fact that you are still playing?

Waiting this word from a developer to leave their game for them

7 minutes ago, Venerable said:

Now my K/D is something I absolutely don't care about. And I don't see how K/D even comes into this discussion. 

Yep, this is my alternate account, made majorly for the Forum. My main account is SHREYA88. It has a K/D of 0.58 I think. Not so nice, eh? But well, it was worse before...

Yes, K/D isn't a thing, who cares about K/D is purely "ignorant". but as this is your second account, so for sure 0.9 K/D with Thunder.. didn't mean that you're noob more than that it's unbalanced. So for sure you aren't a noob, but the game is unbalanced

7 minutes ago, Venerable said:

Oh, I agree that you are more skilled. Getting a good K/D is definitely a skill. But I don't really see how it affects my intellectual abilities... you may even have a really good account, well-managed for an F2P player. 

for sure.. but I here compare the difference on who is get rekt in the game more

8 minutes ago, Venerable said:

Again, I'm not "defending" the game at all.

Also developers didn't say they trying to make the game P2W

8 minutes ago, Venerable said:

And Tanki will never be totally balanced. That's impossible. There will always be a disparity between buyers and non-buyers. 

Do you know when you have to say this word? when a game is very short to be a perfect balanced.. but in tanki no and no maan. no one here asking for perfect balancing.

 

Again you and Dridrien went soo far about my point. Here I mean I beat them I won, why they get prize better than me.

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1 minute ago, Dridrien said:

@asem.harbi for simplicity. you pay = better reward than the first player who does not pay :)

Ok maaan, I think you're exaggerated in the time you play with shaft.. did the game didn't gave you a good amount of turrets?

If you and At-Shin and Venerable are satisfied with game's balance and didn't have a problems, that is just for you

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6 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

Here I mean I beat them I won, why they get prize better than me.

All right forget the rest...

They got a better prize, because that is how the Developers have intended it. Premium is designed in such a way that it gives you double rewards no matter where you stand in the final score. 

This is how premium services in any application/game work! You pay, and you have certain advantages that the non-buyers don't have. 

And by the way, non-buyers can also get Premium from contests or containers. Would you still complain that they (non-buyers who got Premium) got more rewards than you despite you being better than them in the final score?

 

Another thing: I never said that I'm "satisfied" with the game balance. I've simply accepted the fact that Tanki isn't perfect, and can never be. Irrespective of that I enjoy the game the way I want. If I let the Developers influence my emotions, I'd become crazy.

Look, the game is imbalanced, and we can always complain or make suggestions. But we must accept certain facts which are extremely unlikely to change! 

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18 minutes ago, Venerable said:

All right forget the rest...

They got a better prize, because that is how the Developers have intended it. Premium is designed in such a way that it gives you double rewards no matter where you stand in the final score. 

This is how premium services in any application/game work! You pay, and you have certain advantages that the non-buyers don't have. 

 

And by the way, non-buyers can also get Premium from contests or containers. Would you still complain that they (non-buyers who got Premium) got more rewards than you despite you being better than them in the final score?

Another thing: I never said that I'm "satisfied" with the game balance. I've simply accepted the fact that Tanki isn't perfect, and can never be. Irrespective of that I enjoy the game the way I want. If I let the Developers influence my emotions, I'd become crazy.

Look, the game is imbalanced, and we can always complain or make suggestions. But we must accept certain facts which are extremely unlikely to change! 

That what happens with me while reading your wall reply

Thanks for this information!

Certain advantages be like stronger equipment, not even if I win they take the win from me!

Senseless point, but to answer you.. Yes I will say the same, same my opinion to OD. also let's assume not, when last time you get premium? I haven't get a premium from April's celebration, also I consider contests as a buying, but they're a very few.

Tanki isn't perfect? No, tanki isn't balanced- that's what true to say. Nice advice, but it's better to keep it yours.

Ok so no need of this topic with these 259 pages

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guys just quit and move on with your life don't look back, the greedy owners of this game will never change their ways. no matter how much we complain they will never listen.

they sell "special bundles" that cost as much as a months rent for a 3 bedroom house in russia, and people are actually buying it, the world is crazy, i will never understand this, maybe we shouldnt even blame the owner of the game but the people that are willing to hand over 100s or 1000s of dollars for virtual stuff, they are the real crazy ones!

really the world is a messed up place, some people are starving while others are spending 1000s on virtual stuff!

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5 minutes ago, 0wned said:

 

The thing is, nobody is forced to purchase those offers and there are players who can afford that. I don't see a problem with that, especially if those bundles contain cosmetic items only such as skins, shot effects and paints.

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well i do see a problem with it, obviously there are people that can afford it but there are many more that cannot. i gues tanki is just like real life, really unfair. some get to live while others have to survive, for some life is a party while for others its a struggle from beginning to the end, the problem is inequality not just in tanki but everywhere. i wish i knew how to solve this but this forum is probably not the place for it, im gonna move on, take care everyone.

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oh and also some special bundles might only contain cosmetic items and ofcourse cosmetic items wouldn't make them stronger, but if they are willing to pay 200 for cosmetics you can imagine they are also willing to pay 100s on making their tank/weapon/protection/ and drones stronger. there are people with full 9999 garage at first lieutenant/ captain rank do you really expect free players to stick around when they face them in battle? they will never be able to win, they can only spawn and get shot over and over again theres no fun in it for them, ofcourse they leave the battle or quit the game.

 

maybe the problem is exactly what you said, that you guys don't see any problems with this.

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Hi I want to complaint about tanki online mobile version  . The requirement for mobile is android 5.0 or above right  . But the problem is that  I have android version 8.1.0   which is above from android version  5.0  and  Google play  says that  this game is not compatible in with my mobile version . I don't know what to do plzzZzzz. Help me out. 

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3 minutes ago, Markhor_GT said:

Hi I want to complaint about tanki online mobile version  . The requirement for mobile is android 5.0 or above right  . But the problem is that  I have android version 8.1.0   which is above from android version  5.0  and  Google play  says that  this game is not compatible in with my mobile version . I don't know what to do plzzZzzz. Help me out. 

Can you provide us with a picture / video please?

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22 minutes ago, Emil said:

Can you provide us with a picture / video please?

Actually I tried hard to post a picture in my reply but here it says to post a url  but I have a screenshot do I don't know how to upload a pic here but I can tell u in detail  . As u know there is a button in play store which says install right . But when I  search Tanki online  the play store didn't show me the install button but  instead show me    this  .  Your device isn't compatible for this app . This is written in red color . And one more thing. I can't even search  for Tanki directly from play store I have  to search it from browser google u know . I hope  this explains pretty much . But if not send me it email address I will there send u the screen shot

 

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18 minutes ago, Markhor_GT said:

Actually I tried hard to post a picture in my reply but here it says to post a url  but I have a screenshot do I don't know how to upload a pic here but I can tell u in detail  . As u know there is a  in play store which says install right . But when I  search Tanki online  the play store didn't show me the install button but  instead show me    this  .  Your device isn't compatible for this app . This is written in red color . And one more thing. I can't even search  for Tanki directly from play store I have  to search it from browser google u know . I hope  this explains pretty much . But if not send me it email address I will there send u the screen shot

 

 

 This guide might help you to upload a photo to the forum.

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12 minutes ago, Bydo said:

Where are the sales for this weekend..

normally we have black Friday / cyber Monday events... so why not this year ??

There is no information on discounts this weekend, I suggest you to follow News and Announcements topic for the latest updates regarding sales and events.

 

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10 minutes ago, Markhor_GT said:

And there is a annoying bug in mobile version  u might know it  as self- destruction bug the tank suddenly get destroyed and  when it respwan it doesn't deal or take any damage . 

Devs are aware of it the last v-log:  Episode 279 of the V-LOG is live! The self-destruct and no damage situation (and impossible to pick rugby ball or flag) are due to the anti-cheat system being fed with wrong tank coordinate.

Also to discuss about Mobile Let's discuss Tanki Mobile! 

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1 hour ago, Emil said:

There is no information on discounts this weekend, I suggest you to follow News and Announcements topic for the latest updates regarding sales and events.

 

sir I do follow it /... I was asking a Question to the CM on WHY there is none.. we have had them for the past two years or more but nothing so far for this year

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