declined Ideas for Isida gun

[slurp21256 17]

Dear ,Tankionline .The isda gun should have a Augment .It should be called Vampire .The power is that if u deal damage to the enemy You will gain little health

[GG_reg 1,524]

Declined

Isida did have self healing ability a while ago but it was removed - ideas regarding changing Tanki Online to its previous versions, or ideas regarding the removal of updates are not accepted.

[Gold_Hunter_PRO 33]

8 hours ago, GG_reg said:

Declined

Isida did have self healing ability a while ago but it was removed - ideas regarding changing Tanki Online to its previous versions, or ideas regarding the removal of updates are not accepted.

But his suggestion is buy an augment... It's not like previous version... You should send his suggestion to Tanki Devs.

The isida's damage is low compared to the others guns. It is fair to add this function, even if it is as an augment. And the healing power is also very low

[wolverine848 13,097]

36 minutes ago, Gold_Hunter_PRO said:

The isida's damage is low compared to the others guns.

What are you basing this on?

[Viking4s 10,791]

in the old time it was fun to see two issida sucking each other health. The kiss of death was quite long. 

[Mrat13 34]

6 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

What are you basing this on?

Probably comparing it to something like Firebird, which is also much easier to aim.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Just now, Mrat13 said:

Probably comparing it to something like Firebird, which is also much easier to aim.

Well, Isida has higher DPS.  Highest DPS in the game actually.

What is poor for Isida is it's scoring. Does not get enough battle score for healing.  Might as well just attack.

[alkyng 3,081]

Now in MM the Isida isn't like what it was, In MM every turret should be offensive not defensive, so the Isida lose its abiltiy

The time in long battles, and staying at the bottom as a defender like in Noise map or something.. has end. now the defense lost its popularity so the Isida now should be more at attacking IMO

[TheCongoSpider 8,980]

1 minute ago, wolverine848 said:

 Might as well just attack.

That was their intention with the healing nerf - to make it more attack-oriented. 

 

Imo what is poor with Stock Isida is its cone angle. That combined with the difference in the way it deals damage to enemies compared to Firebird and Freeze is what I think is holding it back. But then again, it has an augment to curb this at the cost of some of your maximum range. 

 

Remember, increasing the score for healing will make a repeat of what happened last year. I'm sure you don't want to try your hardest for your team and come 3rd or 4th place because 2 or 3 Support Nanobots Isidas were sitting in the enemy base healing each other, especially when they can all have the Defender drone. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

24 minutes ago, TheCongoSpider said:

Remember, increasing the score for healing will make a repeat of what happened last year. I'm sure you don't want to try your hardest for your team and come 3rd or 4th place because 2 or 3 Support Nanobots Isidas were sitting in the enemy base healing each other, especially when they can all have the Defender drone. 

Might have happened but I rarely saw that.  Problem with isida nowadays is that many hulls are (light and ) just moving around so much it's almost impossible to heal them without getting put in so much danger.  I refuse to "chase" the ones that need healing and that's part of the reason I don't use it.

[Mrat13 34]

1 hour ago, TheCongoSpider said:

Imo what is poor with Stock Isida is its cone angle. That combined with the difference in the way it deals damage to enemies compared to Firebird and Freeze is what I think is holding it back. But then again, it has an augment to curb this at the cost of some of your maximum range. 

All CQC turrets, bar I think Ricochet, have a glaring weakness that only an augment can solve, whereas the long range guns, while they benefit from augments, can work without augments, IMO. 

1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

Might have happened but I rarely saw that.  Problem with isida nowadays is that many hulls are (light and ) just moving around so much it's almost impossible to heal them without getting put in so much danger.  I refuse to "chase" the ones that need healing and that's part of the reason I don't use it.

Well, that would be solved by making heavies good.....

[slurp21256 17]

Dear ,Tankioline .The isda gun should have a Augment .It should be called Vampire .The power is that if u deal damage to the enemy You will gain little health and if they heal a teammate and press ALT ( or any other key ) the healing will increase but the healers will be taking little damage (If u do not press alt u will do normal healing ).PLs make this in the game or make it for 10000 diamonds please and thank you

[slurp21256 17]

That will make the game better 

[slurp21256 17]

This should be in game 

[DARKDUSTY 19]

Nice suggestion in my opinion, but 10k is very less make it for 245k , because this alt will be a BEAST

[Maf 32,336]

15 hours ago, Gold_Hunter_PRO said:

But his suggestion is buy an augment... It's not like previous version... You should send his suggestion to Tanki Devs.

The isida's damage is low compared to the others guns. It is fair to add this function, even if it is as an augment. And the healing power is also very low

Developers said many times that Isida self-healing makes it extremely difficult to balance it against other turrets. Players suggested many ways to fix the balancing issue (my favourite is adding HP only after Isida gets the kill), but so far it seems that devs will not change their mind regarding self-healing.

As for low damage, I should point out that Isida has a unique advantage of always dealing maximum damage whenever an enemy tank is in range of the beam, unlike Freeze and Firebird, which deal less damage if their spray is barely reaching the enemy tank.

Either way, all ideas get forwarded to developers on a weekly basis.

[E_polypterus 2,374]

On 9/27/2020 at 5:08 PM, GG_reg said:

Declined

Isida did have self healing ability a while ago but it was removed - ideas regarding changing Tanki Online to its previous versions, or ideas regarding the removal of updates are not accepted.

Like re-adding augments into the game for instance?

[Gold_Hunter_PRO 33]

14 hours ago, slurp21256 said:

Dear ,Tankioline .The isda gun should have a Augment .It should be called Vampire .The power is that if u deal damage to the enemy You will gain little health and if they heal a teammate and press ALT ( or any other key ) the healing will increase but the healers will be taking little damage (If u do not press alt u will do normal healing ).PLs make this in the game or make it for 10000 diamonds please and thank you

YES, great idea!

[Okami 3,041]

On 9/28/2020 at 3:05 AM, slurp21256 said:

Dear ,Tankioline .The isda gun should have a Augment .It should be called Vampire .The power is that if u deal damage to the enemy You will gain little health and if they heal a teammate and press ALT ( or any other key ) the healing will increase but the healers will be taking little damage (If u do not press alt u will do normal healing ).PLs make this in the game or make it for 10000 diamonds please and thank you

 

On 9/28/2020 at 3:07 AM, slurp21256 said:

That will make the game better 

 

On 9/28/2020 at 3:09 AM, slurp21256 said:

This should be in game 

[wolverine848 13,097]

On 9/28/2020 at 7:47 AM, Maf said:

Developers said many times that Isida self-healing makes it extremely difficult to balance it against other turrets.

They barely tried.   Went from 50% to 10%. 

Seriously that was a poor effort.  What happened to 30%?  25%?  Even 20%?

[mjmj5558 2,346]

1 minute ago, wolverine848 said:

They barely tried.   Went from 50% to 10%. 

Seriously that was a poor effort.  What happened to 30%?  25%?  Even 20%?

Isida is weak. Too weak.

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 minute ago, mjmj5558 said:

Isida is weak. Too weak.

How would you make it less "weak"?

[mjmj5558 2,346]

1 minute ago, wolverine848 said:

How would you make it less "weak"?

 

4 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

They barely tried.   Went from 50% to 10%. 

Seriously that was a poor effort.  What happened to 30%?  25%?  Even 20%?

With this ^. I woupd try to balance this feature out.

[DageLV 71]

On 9/28/2020 at 2:47 PM, Maf said:

Developers said many times that Isida self-healing makes it extremely difficult to balance it against other turrets. Players suggested many ways to fix the balancing issue (my favourite is adding HP only after Isida gets the kill), but so far it seems that devs will not change their mind regarding self-healing.

As for low damage, I should point out that Isida has a unique advantage of always dealing maximum damage whenever an enemy tank is in range of the beam, unlike Freeze and Firebird, which deal less damage if their spray is barely reaching the enemy tank.

Either way, all ideas get forwarded to developers on a weekly basis.

If isida gets caught in combat against shaft in close range, the shaft can easily melt isida. Even Vulcan needs to rew up the minigun, shaft can just spray you. 

And don't go about balance. Tanki devs clearly couldn't care less about how balanced the game is. 

[ILiveOnTheChatBox123 936]

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