category Ideas for Hulls and Overdrives!

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, artc said:

Yeetly deet, i like meat

all were titan and tesla

Is that your Hunter at the bottom of the screen?  You know... the hull that deactivates domes and... what was that other function it recently acquired.... blammer?   No.... gammer?  not quite....  oh yeah... JAMMER.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

10 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Way to Nerf the titan then.     Then you'll just encourage more and more of the Shaft-Titan's hiding in a corner and activating only when threatened.  That would be just awesom for the game... amirite?

Better than being spawn camped by hordes of titans. More than two titans on enemy team = exit.

12 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Seriously - how-often does the above mentioned issue happen?

Many times now since the buff.

12 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

And why do people insist on "forgetting" that almost every other hull can counter the Titan dome in some way?

Because now it can also counter almost every other hull.

9 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Is that your Hunter at the bottom of the screen?  You know... the hull that deactivates domes and... what was that other function it recently acquired.... blammer?   No.... gammer?  not quite....  oh yeah... JAMMER.

Are we really gonna ignore the possibility that some of those titans might have jammer immunity?

[numericable 2,375]

29 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Is that your Hunter at the bottom of the screen?  You know... the hull that deactivates domes and... what was that other function it recently acquired.... blammer?   No.... gammer?  not quite....  oh yeah... JAMMER.

He can't come close to them, they are all spamming tesla balls with that slow projectile augment, they are abusing it with the titan dome, that's why he wants it to change but honestly, this happen very rarely. The main problem is that tesla augment, not titan dome that much.

[artc 1,119]

35 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Is that your Hunter at the bottom of the screen?  You know... the hull that deactivates domes and... what was that other function it recently acquired.... blammer?   No.... gammer?  not quite....  oh yeah... JAMMER.

sry man, but 1 hunter dont do crap against 6 titans. and as @numericable said, i cant even get close to them. but yes @PirateSpider, the tesla aug. is a bigger prob, then titan itself, i agree with that.

Edited August 21, 2021 by artc

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

2 hours ago, artc said:

Yeetly deet, i like meat

all were titan and tesla

How often did similar scenarios happen before Tesla was released? Perhaps the problem is with Tesla, and not with Titan's OD?

Edited August 21, 2021 by ThirdOnion

[PirateSpider 1,489]

35 minutes ago, ThirdOnion said:

How often did similar scenarios happen before Tesla was released? Perhaps the problem is with Tesla, and not with Titan's OD?

I don't think even Tesla is at fault for this. Its been happening since the recent titan buff. Titan was way over buffed from there. Now I see many titans in battle.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

2 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Seriously - how-often does the above mentioned issue happen?

Start playing again to find out that answer yourself. 

Edited August 21, 2021 by TheCongoSpider

[Spy 14,687]

2 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Way to Nerf the titan then.     Then you'll just encourage more and more of the Shaft-Titan's hiding in a corner and activating only when threatened. 

I prefer that over what we have now.

[G-92 104]

2 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Way to Nerf the titan then.     Then you'll just encourage more and more of the Shaft-Titan's hiding in a corner and activating only when threatened.  That would be just awesom for the game... amirite?

Seriously - how-often does the above mentioned issue happen?

And why do people insist on "forgetting" that almost every other hull can counter the Titan dome in some way?

@wolverine848  Because they choose to forget. I think we should concentrate on the legal hack, as always the biggest problem gets overlooked. 

When was the last time a titan ended a battle all on It's own without any help whatsoever from team mates, ah yes, that would be never. When was the last time you saw a titan camping on top of some wall/building and be almost nigh on impossible to kill without a concentrated effort by one or more players, never.

Titan is balanced, if anything it is underpowered with the amount of combos that can counter It's supposedly OP shield.

Tesla to is balanced, as it is the only turret that can effectively take out these flying monkeys in mid air. Such a shame when that happens.

 

[artc 1,119]

1 hour ago, G-92 said:

@wolverine848  Because they choose to forget. I think we should concentrate on the legal hack, as always the biggest problem gets overlooked. 

When was the last time a titan ended a battle all on It's own without any help whatsoever from team mates, ah yes, that would be never. When was the last time you saw a titan camping on top of some wall/building and be almost nigh on impossible to kill without a concentrated effort by one or more players, never.

Titan is balanced, if anything it is underpowered with the amount of combos that can counter It's supposedly OP shield.

Tesla to is balanced, as it is the only turret that can effectively take out these flying monkeys in mid air. Such a shame when that happens.

 

Im not sure what rank u are, but titan od is not balanced, there are manyways to counter it, but when u have multiple titans in a team, that does not matter.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

22 minutes ago, artc said:

there are manyways to counter it,

But titan can also counter almost every other OD. So the argument of "titan gets countered by almost every other hull" is cancelled out.

[artc 1,119]

21 minutes ago, PirateSpider said:

But titan can also counter almost every other OD. So the argument of "titan gets countered by almost every other hull" is cancelled out.

Thats basically what i was saying:/

[wolverine848 13,097]

7 hours ago, PirateSpider said:

Better than being spawn camped by hordes of titans. More than two titans on enemy team = exit.

Many times now since the buff.

Because now it can also counter almost every other hull.

Are we really gonna ignore the possibility that some of those titans might have jammer immunity?

Titan OD is wasted if ur using it to "counter" other ODs.  That's a win for the other side.

6 hours ago, artc said:

sry man, but 1 hunter dont do crap against 6 titans. and as @numericable said, i cant even get close to them. but yes @PirateSpider, the tesla aug. is a bigger prob, then titan itself, i agree with that.

1 vs 6.   Gee - I wonder why that might be a problem... 

You seriously don't think 6 Hunters could handle the 6 Titans?

5 hours ago, TheCongoSpider said:

Start playing again to find out that answer yourself. 

Not a chance.  Game was bad 6 months ago.  It's worse now.

[wolverine848 13,097]

5 hours ago, PirateSpider said:

Its been happening since the recent titan buff. Titan was way over buffed from there.

Which recent patch are you talking about?

[wolverine848 13,097]

7 hours ago, PirateSpider said:

Are we really gonna ignore the possibility that some of those titans might have jammer immunity?

Are we really gonna start taking into account hull immunities you can't buy?

And if you actually had 1 Titan on a team with Jammer immunity that still does not prevent Hunter's other effects - like ... disabling the Dome.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

48 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Which recent patch are you talking about?

Strange, I could've swore that it was given the ability to disable mammoth and crusaders OD.

It seems that all it was given in the patch update was the ability to disable Tesla sparks. 

But still, we are seeing a rise in the number of titans.

1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

1 vs 6.   Gee - I wonder why that might be a problem... 

You seriously don't think 6 Hunters could handle the 6 Titans?

I don't hardly even see one hunter anymore in battle but at least 3-4 titans in each battle.

1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

Not a chance.  Game was bad 6 months ago.  It's worse now.

Hard to form an accurate opinion of gameplay these days when you don't play.

53 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

And if you actually had 1 Titan on a team with Jammer immunity that still does not prevent Hunter's other effects - like ... disabling the Dome.

The titan could easily have OD ready, and then after hunter OD effects wear off, it can just plop down the dome.

[artc 1,119]

Yes, people say titan can be countered by everything...well lets see. There is other titans od, there is wasp od, there is hunter od, there is mamouth od, there is ap aug, there is jammer. Ares' od._{Tell me if im forgetting anything.} Now Waps can also be countered by titans od. There are multiple immunities to hunters od. Mamouth od is kinda hard to escape in close range, but lifeguard gives you a fighting chance. You can have immunity to ap, you can have immunity to jammer. And ares' od can be cancelled by titan 2. Over all Titan can cancel manythings, and manythings can cancel titan.

[wolverine848 13,097]

15 hours ago, PirateSpider said:

Strange, I could've swore that it was given the ability to disable mammoth and crusaders OD.

It seems that all it was given in the patch update was the ability to disable Tesla sparks. 

But still, we are seeing a rise in the number of titans.

I don't hardly even see one hunter anymore in battle but at least 3-4 titans in each battle.

Hard to form an accurate opinion of gameplay these days when you don't play.

The titan could easily have OD ready, and then after hunter OD effects wear off, it can just plop down the dome.

Titan is OP because players are not using the hull that can make it's life miserable?  Maybe you don't see Hunters in the battles anymore because players like me - who have maxed out Hunter - have stopped playing the game.

You think two months of not playing means I don't understand how things interact?  Would I need to play today in order to understand that (a hypothetical buff) of increasing Rail max critical from 50% to 75% would be bad?

Well it's a team game - you saying no one on the the Hunter's team would target those under the recently removed dome?  Just like your "hardly seen any hunters these days" does absolutely nothing to support the 1 vs 6 scenario I was commenting on.

[wolverine848 13,097]

34 minutes ago, artc said:

Yes, people say titan can be countered by everything...well lets see. There is other titans od, there is wasp od, there is hunter od, there is mamouth od, there is ap aug, there is jammer. Ares' od._{Tell me if im forgetting anything.} Now Waps can also be countered by titans od. There are multiple immunities to hunters od. Mamouth od is kinda hard to escape in close range, but lifeguard gives you a fighting chance. You can have immunity to ap, you can have immunity to jammer. And ares' od can be cancelled by titan 2. Over all Titan can cancel manythings, and manythings can cancel titan.

You only get ONE immunity.

If a Titan has AP-immunity in the garage and does not equip that ... 

You keep brining up Titan countering other ODs... well... that's not it's primary objective.  It's there to provide a massive Defense - which as we've already discussed - can easily be bypassed or disabled.   WHO CARES if it can counter another OD if it's not being deployed for it's primary function?

[PirateSpider 1,489]

24 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Maybe you don't see Hunters in the battles anymore because players like me - who have maxed out Hunter - have stopped playing the game.

Or maybe they switched to other hulls that can do better like wasp, hopper, titan.

26 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

You think two months of not playing means I don't understand how things interact?

For how long did you play then?

28 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

recently removed dome? 

What?

 

You seem to be very hostile. Maybe you should quit the forum for 6 months. That'll reduce your hostility. You already quit the game, no point in staying on the forum.

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 minute ago, PirateSpider said:

Or maybe they switched to other hulls that can do better like wasp, hopper, titan.

 

For how long did you play then?

What?

 

You seem to be very hostile. Maybe you should quit the forum for 6 months. That'll reduce your hostility. You already quit the game, no point in staying on the forum.

Because I disagree with just about everything you post ... I'm hostile?    Maybe ... it's just you.

 

I played since 2015 and have 2 Legend accounts.  I stopped playing about 7 weeks ago when the last round of absolutely dumb updates were added to the game.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

34 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

You think two months of not playing means I don't understand how things interact?  Would I need to play today in order to understand that (a hypothetical buff) of increasing Rail max critical from 50% to 75% would be bad?

YES, you do. 

 

As I've mentioned in a post before, you have missed out on a lot of balance changes which affected Overdrives and Stock turrets, which also affect their augments. Now it is even more crucial than ever to be playing to have a proper judgement of the equipment. 

 

2 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

I played since 2015 and have 2 Legend accounts.  I stopped playing about 7 weeks ago 

That's quite a number of changes you haven't experienced. I implore you to start playing again, even if infrequently. Maybe you'll see where the complaints are stemming from.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

2 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Because I disagree with just about everything you post ... I'm hostile? 

Your posts are coming off as aggressive to me, and lately.

 

4 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

played since 2015 and have 2 Legend accounts. 

So?

I got an account with almost 9.3k GS at general and I don't brag about that. Having two legend accounts means doesn't mean anything. Having an account at general with 9.3k GS doesn't mean anything. Especially in discussions or giving advice.

 

[wolverine848 13,097]

2 hours ago, TheCongoSpider said:

YES, you do. 

Math is hard.

 

In the end it doesn't really matter.  Unless they revert a lot of what they've done (they won't) I doubt I will play this game again. 

Edited August 22, 2021 by wolverine848

[wolverine848 13,097]

2 hours ago, PirateSpider said:

Your posts are coming off as aggressive to me, and lately.

 

So?

I got an account with almost 9.3k GS at general and I don't brag about that. Having two legend accounts means doesn't mean anything. Having an account at general with 9.3k GS doesn't mean anything. Especially in discussions or giving advice.

 

I wasn't bragging.   I was answering your question.     "For how long did you play then?"