declined bring isisda old ability back

[M95XI 6]

isida had a ability to heal itself while attacking enemies     it made the turret soo useful and now the turret is almost useless without that ability    and please developers bring it back to the turrret and please dont make it an augment make it the stock turret ability as it used to be before   

[Spy 14,897]

Declined

We do not accept ideas regarding changes to the actual Tanki Online to its previous versions, or ideas regarding the removal of updates.

[M95XI 6]

but why ?    everyone is trying to give u ideas to bring the game back to life and you are rgecting the ideas...... what i mean if you want the game to die fine let it die but you will regret every decition you made

[mjmj5558 2,346]

This was suggested a lot if time before, even i suggested a modified version of self heal, but none of them are in the game. I hope something will happen to isida, to make it powerfull, or at least to make it ok. On the other hand, i understand what was the problem with the old self healing, so if developers will bring back a type of self healing to isida, it will be (probably) really different.

[M95XI 6]

1 minute ago, mjmj5558 said:

This was suggested a lot if time before, even i suggested a modified version of self heal, but none of them are in the game. I hope something will happen to isida, to make it powerfull, or at least to make it ok. On the other hand, i understand what was the problem with the old self healing, so if developers will bring back a type of self healing to isida, it will be (probably) really different.

they only care about money not the game 

3-4 years ago they were taking care of the game and it was balanced  everything was perfect and tanki had 150k players daily!!!

when they were listening to the players the game was in its golden age 

and if they realise that they were making x3 time money before 

now they make less becuase they made everything soo expencive and now the game is losing a lot of players daily 

if they want it that way let it be 

the game will die and they will lose everything 

[Venerable 2,975]

16 minutes ago, M95XI said:

but why ?    everyone is trying to give u ideas to bring the game back to life and you are rgecting the ideas...... what i mean if you want the game to die fine let it die but you will regret every decition you made

Moderators have got no choice apart from declining such ideas, because it's in the rules for posting ideas.

They have made the rules this way because the Developers themselves won't act upon any such idea.

[alkyng 3,081]

31 minutes ago, M95XI said:

but why ?    everyone is trying to give u ideas to bring the game back to life and you are rgecting the ideas.

Basically most of the things that developers removed, they took a lot of time deciding and thinking with many aspects. Also, ideas of removing updates is answered with the same reason. Also ideas of increasing crystals or gold boxes aren't accepted, why? because mostly the players may asking for incredible increase in crystals, and the devs spent their time in this thing so they didn't need any idea of this

Also addition of Wasp+Fire I think they added this after they get extreme annoyed with these ideas, so they highlighted it specifically...

tbh, there is no room of suggesting any idea. What is possible would someone think to suggest? in example UFO tank?

and the small improvements like in example someone suggest a new idea in HTML5 UI, these kind of ideas, can be written in category topics (there are many category topics), that small improvements didn't need a full topic.

So I think as there is no room for a new ideas (as it's hard to think for one), and most of these are rejected. so I think the best place is the "complaint book", as we just criticize there.

The developers know that EMP Gauss is OP, or Hornet was OP, but they didn't want who is tell them that with a new idea or suggestion, so no need to tell that to devs as they already know that. So we just criticize.

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

3 hours ago, M95XI said:

but why ?    everyone is trying to give u ideas to bring the game back to life and you are rejecting the ideas...

What?! Bringing back vampirism? Oh hell no! That thing was so OP. While I never played during Isida's self-healing era, I can imagine what it was like. Some ideas I can agree but this one, I have to give no. 

3 hours ago, M95XI said:

and please developers bring it back to the turret and please don't make it an augment make it the stock turret ability as it used to be before   

This part is nothing more than a fat joke right here. 

3 hours ago, M95XI said:

they only care about money not the game 

How does not bringing back self-healing have to do have being greedy? 

3 hours ago, M95XI said:

now they make less because they made everything soo expensive and now the game is losing a lot of players daily 

No offense, in some way, players does not understand what Alternativa did.

I support some parts such as implementing matchmaking (there are still flaws though such as high GS dudes vs lower counterparts). They need to implement highest-possible gear score in order to rebalance the gameplay. Meaning if a Brigadier try to use 1k GS items to battle (while their highest possible GS is a bit 6k), they would still have to versus other tankers who are in 6k GS range to prevent abuse. Although mults is definitely need to some countermeasures.

However I am against OP drones, pre-nerfed Hornet OD (not the nerf I wanted though)

Expensive OP augment. I don't agree this one.

I actually support removing fund from XP/BP. Good move NGL, as good amount of players stays away from matchmaking b/c of this.

Same thing to old Madness map (even though I never get to try it). 

 

 

 

[The_Voltage 178]

Make vampirism augment, then. I bet it would be best-seller. Especially with brand new UT-skin and shot effect!

[alkyng 3,081]

1 hour ago, FrozenRailgun said:

What?! Bringing back vampirism? Oh hell no! That thing was so OP. While I never played during Isida's self-healing era, I can imagine what it was like. Some ideas I can agree but this one, I have to give no. 

 

in the very very past Isida with its self-healing was UP

[yasgfgfffgf 282]

6 hours ago, FrozenRailgun said:

What?! Bringing back vampirism? Oh hell no! That thing was so OP. While I never played during Isida's self-healing era, I can imagine what it was like. Some ideas I can agree but this one, I have to give no. 

This part is nothing more than a fat joke right here. 

How does not bringing back self-healing have to do have being greedy? 

No offense, in some way, players does not understand what Alternativa did.

I support some parts such as implementing matchmaking (there are still flaws though such as high GS dudes vs lower counterparts). They need to implement highest-possible gear score in order to rebalance the gameplay. Meaning if a Brigadier try to use 1k GS items to battle (while their highest possible GS is a bit 6k), they would still have to versus other tankers who are in 6k GS range to prevent abuse. Although mults is definitely need to some countermeasures.

However I am against OP drones, pre-nerfed Hornet OD (not the nerf I wanted though)

Expensive OP augment. I don't agree this one.

I actually support removing fund from XP/BP. Good move NGL, as good amount of players stays away from matchmaking b/c of this.

Same thing to old Madness map (even though I never get to try it). 

 

 

 

wel i did and my role was different then but i think isida is better now.

i agree. ps there are just a company . what does a company want?. making more mony

true

you realy did missed alot of this game history haha. it was a very good map for schaft and taking a GB when youre are otherwise always unlucky

[Maf 32,326]

11 hours ago, M95XI said:

but why ?    everyone is trying to give u ideas to bring the game back to life and you are rgecting the ideas...... what i mean if you want the game to die fine let it die but you will regret every decition you made

The purpose of the Ideas and Suggestions section is to give players an opportunity to share unique and interesting ideas for improving the game. This implies ideas that developers may not have considered before, or just ideas showing that you want a certain change/feature to be implemented, even if it's quite simple and obvious.

When you suggest to bring back a removed feature, your feedback has very little value for two reasons:

1. The feature was removed for a reason, therefore bringing it back directly contradicts the decision to remove it.
2. Even if developers decided to change their mind and revert a change, they don't need players to tell them to do it. They know the game's history and which features got changed or removed, so if they decide that it's a good idea to revert a change, they will do so without the need for player feedback.

This is why we have a rule that does not allow ideas for bringing back removed features. In the specific case of Isida's self-healing, the feature was removed because it was impossible to balance.

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

Not gonna lie, changes such as removing Isida's self-heal and making Magnum turn horizontally are not very likeable changes to begin with. It removes the thing that made the turret unique, the thing that emphasized why the turret should be used.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

I am surprised people are still asking for this change. It won't happen.

[Akame 4,597]

I would understand if it was an augment that made it 'leech 25% of damage dealt as HP', but if self heal was ever bought back, which i know it never will, Could you imaging using adrenaline augment , you deal damage and it gets lower as you heal yourself up. I find Isida balanced right now tbh (I do personally use it with adrenaline, gives a lil boost (up to 39% passive bonus heal/damage)

[yellowghetto 3,206]

Adrenaline kinda sucks when it's for any turret but melee turrets. 

Slight Disclaimer, some turret(s) with Augments that don't necessarily help the turrets, I guess Adrenaline is the best choice.

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

Not gonna lie, I pretend the Adrenaline Augments don't exist.

[Picassoo 191]

On 11/24/2020 at 11:20 PM, Maf said:

The feature was removed for a reason, therefore bringing it back directly contradicts the decision to remove it

How dare people challenge the correctness of the sacred developers' decisions!

[Maf 32,326]

2 minutes ago, Picassoo said:

How dare people challenge the correctness of the sacred developers' decisions!

If you wanted to challenge it, you had the opportunity to do so in the topic when that decision was announced. Whether or not your opinion was then actually acted upon by the devs is a different question. But posting a topic in I&S about bringing back a feature doesn't really provide any useful input.

[Picassoo 191]

15 hours ago, Maf said:

If you wanted to challenge it, you had the opportunity to do so in the topic when that decision was announced. Whether or not your opinion was then actually acted upon by the devs is a different question. But posting a topic in I&S about bringing back a feature doesn't really provide any useful input.

It is important to know that the developers often think players are prejudiced against updates and therefore implement them without taking their opinion into account. Happened with MM — the system was supposed to be bad when implemented because it was supposed to 'learn' over time.

That being said, I agree posting in I&S doesn't do too much good. Surveying a large group of old players would be better.

That's assuming the devs care about the player's opinion. Whether they do or not is a different matter.

 

[E_polypterus 2,374]

On 11/24/2020 at 8:25 PM, FrozenRailgun said:

What?! Bringing back vampirism? Oh hell no! That thing was so OP. While I never played during Isida's self-healing era, I can imagine what it was like. Some ideas I can agree but this one, I have to give no. 

Yeah it was a bit OP but it could’ve been nerfed instead of simply removing it.

On 11/24/2020 at 8:25 PM, FrozenRailgun said:

I actually support removing fund from XP/BP. Good move NGL, as good amount of players stays away from matchmaking b/c of this.

I see no reason why PRO battle players should get affected just to let MM players get their own satisfaction since they get all the bonuses from events while PRO players don’t get any of it. 

[Maf 32,326]

5 hours ago, Picassoo said:

Surveying a large group of old players would be better.

Why specifically old players?

[wolverine848 13,097]

4 hours ago, E_polypterus said:

I see no reason why PRO battle players should get affected just to let MM players get their own satisfaction since they get all the bonuses from events while PRO players don’t get any of it. 

The reasoning is...

MatchMaker needs more players to function properly.

There are a significant group of xp/bp players that do not spend much/any time in MatchMaker.

If those xp/bp players can't earn crystals in Pro-Battles they might be "encouraged" to spend some time in MatchMaker.

This benefits MatchMaker and thus benefits the game overall.

If it will placate the xp/bp players I'd support no crystals (and even no experience) awarded to ANY pro-battles in the name of fairness.

[wolverine848 13,097]

On 11/24/2020 at 5:20 PM, Maf said:

In the specific case of Isida's self-healing, the feature was removed because it was impossible to balance.

They didn't even try.

Going from 50% vampirism to 10% vampirism was token at best.

[Son_Goku 523]

On 11/24/2020 at 3:55 PM, FrozenRailgun said:

What?! Bringing back vampirism? Oh hell no! That thing was so OP. While I never played during Isida's self-healing era, I can imagine what it was like. Some ideas I can agree but this one, I have to give no.

You have no clue, then. It wasn't OP at all and made Isida quite unique. Since it was able to heal itself, it dealt less damage to enemies and made its primary role be healing teammates. Nowadays Isida deals damage just like the other short range turrets, which removed its uniqueness; it can be used either as a fighting role or supporting role. I have never understood why they changed Isida like that and made it boring