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[JoyRide 80]

Could you please just STOP LYING about the container probabilities? 

I opened 149 containers. There were only 2 augments  in them.

There were 17 "Rare" containers, and it is very obvious that  augments in the same raritiy  not at all have the same probability as the other  type of prizes. The actual chance calculated from these numbers  is NOT 10% as promised  but 0,59% which  means that in reality  all these augments  belong to "Legendary" items.  (2 level difference)

10000 CR			5
100 Repairkit			11
Augment			1

Considering  that 6 out of  8 the possible "Rare" prizes  were augments  in my case I should have received all 6 of them  twice over.

This is ridicules  predetermined conscious  malpractice, and I bet it is illegal to mislead the costumers about the products you are offering. 

 I demand  correction and proper compensation to ALL OF US !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Fellow tankers, it is time to revolt. We are totally taken as fools. Please spread the word, let us start a movement to force HONESTY on these people!!!!

Edited February 1, 2022 by JoyRide

[T879_No_Upgrades 2]

3 hours ago, JoyRide said:

Could you please just STOP LYING about the container probabilities? 

I opened 149 containers. There were only 2 augments  in them.

There were 17 "Rare" containers, and it is very obvious that  augments in the same raritiy  not at all have the same probability as the other  type of prizes. The actual chance calculated from these numbers  is NOT 10% as promised  but 0,59% which  means that in reality  all these augments  belong to "Legendary" items.  (2 level difference)

10000 CR			5
100 Repairkit			11
Augment			1

 

Conditional probability has entered the chat

You opened 149 conts and received 17 rares, which is over the average or expected value of ~15 rares. 
So I guess the chance of receiving a rare item in general (i.e. infinite container openings) is 10%. 
Here comes the "twist": the guy who entered the chat. He says that "Given that something happens, what is the probability that you receive XYZ ?". It's quite likely that, given that you get a rare, in ~80% (*) of the cases you receive "no augments", i.e. Repair Kits, Crystals and Paints.

In your sample you received 1 Augment in 17 rare openings, which would give a conditional probability of 5-6%, and I see you multiplied the probabilities already. Due to the small sample size, you shouldn't take that number too seriously, though

 

Also, I wouldn't say that the rare augments "belong" to the legendary tier chance-wise. The chance of getting an augment given you get a rare item is as high getting a legendary item without any conditions according to your sample, that's approximately true. On the other side, getting an augment given you get the legendary tier is another thing.

 

(*) = Just an example

[Lurch_1 19]

Next we'll see all turrets getting a 1.5 second delay in normal fire mode so railguns don't feel disadvantaged.

[JoyRide 80]

T879_No_Upgrades,

 

1.

11,41%  is a realistic dispersion for a 10% ratio.

0,59%  is a very-very-very unrealistic dispersion for a 10% ratio.

 

2. This is a sizable enough sample. But I have been watching this  for a while. The same issue persists.

 

3. The purposeful lying is very clear. They know exactly what they are doing.  The very least some weights are involved here which  alter the actual  probability.

Edited February 1, 2022 by JoyRide

[SporkZilla 1,775]

@JoyRide 

This is a screenshot of a spreadsheet I use for containers, but it hasn't been updated for a while. The last container on it was opened in May 2021.

Doesn't apply to the new containers obviously, but it does give you some data for the distribution of rewards within "rare" containers

Don't think we'll ever get told the chances for specific rewards, but it doesn't surprise me and shouldn't surprise anyone that you are less likely to get an augment than 100 repair kits

(rare supplies = 250 of all supplies, rare gold boxes = 10 gold boxes, rare batteries = 150 batteries, rare crystals = 10K crystals, rare premium = 10 days premium)

Edited February 1, 2022 by SporkZilla

[Bydo 20,119]

21 hours ago, nikunj04 said:

Post Moved

Kindly keep that topic for positive feedbacks only, criticism can be posted here.

Sir I thought I was in the correct topic.. sorry for any inconvenience that I have caused.

20 hours ago, LEROYLEMMING said:

do you have destablized plama turned quiped because it will do damage to you as well as the tank you are hitting if you are to close and plasma does not bounce.  plasma torch only alows 1 bounce. That being said  i hate what they have done to ricochet  i no longer enjoy playing it. it used to be  cool, you could jump off tall buildings and balace yourself with the turret  and not get default killed by anything that hapend to graze you tank. driving rico was like walking on a tight rope with a huge gun. today rico has  been lobotomized and is now rico walking around with a walker and velcro sneekers surounded by saftey barriers. 

I checked my system again today and all three are set on what I had them on before. nothing has been changed . I also had the same issues today that players just gave up in battles once they had 2 or more losses against them. it's like the game is near the end of it's time . players are giving up on the game.

20 hours ago, Moisthero said:

I encounter exactly the same. New observation thought - I believe I have seen a Mammoth engage its overdrive without delay...

yea been finding my OD is weaker then others . or it takes way too long to activate.

 

 

now why are we not using the Chinese new year theme on gold box's but there still being used on supply box's ?

Edited February 1, 2022 by Bydo

[JoyRide 80]

20 minutes ago, SporkZilla said:

@JoyRide 

This is a screenshot of a spreadsheet I use for containers, but it hasn't been updated for a while. The last container on it was opened in May 2021.

Doesn't apply to the new containers obviously, but it does give you some data for the distribution of rewards within "rare" containers

Don't think we'll ever get told the chances for specific rewards, but it doesn't surprise me and shouldn't surprise anyone that you are less likely to get an augment than 100 repair kits

(rare supplies = 250 of all supplies, rare gold boxes = 10 gold boxes, rare batteries = 150 batteries, rare crystals = 10K crystals, rare premium = 10 days premium)

 It SHOULD surprise everyone that they say it is "Rare" when in fact it is 2 levels down "Legendary". 

The weights for  the old containers were not the same.  

Edited February 1, 2022 by JoyRide

[NikmanGT 4,362]

1 hour ago, Bydo said:

Sir I thought I was in the correct topic.. sorry for any inconvenience that I have caused.

No worries

[alkyng 3,080]

6 hours ago, JoyRide said:

There were 17 "Rare" containers, and it is very obvious that  augments in the same raritiy  not at all have the same probability as the other  type of prizes.

I noticed that I get Repair Kits & Paints more than Augments from Rare. With not a huge sample of testing <100 (so too early for me to judge).  Eventhough they haven't said it's necessarily for items in the same category to have the same probabilities.

[JoyRide 80]

36 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

I noticed that I get Repair Kits & Paints more than Augments from Rare. With not a huge sample of testing <100 (so too early for me to judge).  Eventhough they haven't said it's necessarily for items in the same category to have the same probabilities.

Can you give us approximate numbers?

It also depends on the number of  paints and other stuff in the same rarity. My case is very clear  because I only had  6 augments plus the 2 permanent prizes.

The probability of not getting an argument out of  16  rounds is around  0,0000000233% which means that the average  number of open containers needed  to reproduce my numbers (1 out of 17 Rare)  : 4294967296 . I managed to  produce these outrageous numbers  out of 149.  There is simply no question that  this is intentional, the developers are lying through their teeth.
 

Edited February 1, 2022 by JoyRide

[EagleChappie 581]

On 1/30/2022 at 11:49 PM, Moisthero said:

Talk about downhill - I just encountered a Juggernaut in a CTF game. Possibly they were testing it, but why? Any doubts what can a Juggernaut do in a ctf game. It cleared everyone. Not a relaxing game. Joined it when my team was winning 3:0, lost 3:6 after that tank joined the game. TO, what were you expecting after placing a Juggernaut in a CFT game??

do you remember the nick of player?

[Moisthero 254]

1 hour ago, elcatalagamer said:

do you remember the nick of player?

NO, but the clan it was from was called Test.

[Iamhereforfun 240]

1 hour ago, elcatalagamer said:

do you remember the nick of player?

I was playing in the same battle with Moisthero using one of my accounts and I was surprised to see that player using a Jug in my team and he was bringing the flag in record time!   His name was OPEX-RAH and if I am not mistaken he maybe a Tanki developer.  Could he be that guy that used to be HAZEL-RAH? I remember him 2 years ago he was the head game designer for Tanki with the IQ of the winter outdoor temperature in the Red Square in Moscow!  

[Iamhereforfun 240]

22 minutes ago, Moisthero said:

NO, but the clan it was from was called Test.

Hey Moisthero, I was in that battle. see my previous comment.  He was on my team and I got his name. (OPEX-RAH)

[Dridrien 157]

On 31/01/2022 at 18:55, nikunj04 said:

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Veuillez conserver ce sujet uniquement pour les commentaires positifs, les critiques peuvent être publiées ici.

I don't understand your reasoning. This is the complaint book here. A complaint is necessarily negative.

[YANUKFIN 493]

7 hours ago, Bydo said:

players are giving up on the game

The most accurate sentence i have seen from another player in awhile, although not enough to make the developers sit up and take notice and retract a lot of their appalling updates, including the trash containers. Unfortunately you have a lot of kids who do not know any better and I'm guessing they are the ones keeping the numbers from truly plummeting to rock bottom.

[LambSauce 1,884]

5 hours ago, Iamhereforfun said:

I was playing in the same battle with Moisthero using one of my accounts and I was surprised to see that player using a Jug in my team and he was bringing the flag in record time!   His name was OPEX-RAH and if I am not mistaken he maybe a Tanki developer.  Could he be that guy that used to be HAZEL-RAH? I remember him 2 years ago he was the head game designer for Tanki with the IQ of the winter outdoor temperature in the Red Square in Moscow!  

Lead TO developer, Hazel, that's him.

[NikmanGT 4,362]

4 hours ago, Dridrien said:

I don't understand your reasoning. This is the complaint book here. A complaint is necessarily negative.

The user had earlier posted this message under the "Compliment Book" topic of the forum, which is meant for posts of positive feedback.

[Iamhereforfun 240]

4 hours ago, LambSauce said:

Lead TO developer, Hazel, that's him.

I thought so. Tanki is a dishonest organization and he is leading the way! There is no need to play with the rest of us mere mortals, who barely have mk7s, with a jug in a CTF!The other team had nothing to counter so it was not balanced.  But then again, balanced is not a word that Tanki knows its meaning! It is not bad enough that we lower ranks  go up against legends trying to complete our missions, we have to content with things like that.    

[FLIP1 35]

1 hour ago, Iamhereforfun said:

I thought so. Tanki is a dishonest organization and he is leading the way! There is no need to play with the rest of us mere mortals, who barely have mk7s, with a jug in a CTF!The other team had nothing to counter so it was not balanced.  But then again, balanced is not a word that Tanki knows its meaning! It is not bad enough that we lower ranks  go up against legends trying to complete our missions, we have to content with things like that.    

If you copy his nickname and add it to tanki ratings he has the terminator turret and jug hull. 

Tanki needs apologies https://www.linkpicture.com/view.php?img=LPic61fa2ad274222833349958

Edited February 2, 2022 by nikunj04
Kindly refrain from using Innapropriate words.

[terrierist1967 52]

3 hours ago, FLIP1 said:

If you copy his nickname and add it to tanki ratings he has the terminator turret and jug hull. 

Tanki needs apologies https://www.linkpicture.com/view.php?img=LPic61fa2ad274222833349958

Oooooh, Tanki not playing to their own rules, have they been taking notes from the UK government? 

Seriously, Tanki, sort these awful 'updates' out, revert back to the old containers and sort the OD lag (and game lag) out. Listen to the feedback you are receiving from the CUSTOMERS you want to put food on your plate and Roubles in your pocket.

I've paid my last money a couple of weeks ago for premium and challenges, I won't be paying again until you sort this. I do hope that others take this stance also.

[LambSauce 1,884]

5 hours ago, Iamhereforfun said:

I thought so. Tanki is a dishonest organization and he is leading the way! There is no need to play with the rest of us mere mortals, who barely have mk7s, with a jug in a CTF!The other team had nothing to counter so it was not balanced.  But then again, balanced is not a word that Tanki knows its meaning! It is not bad enough that we lower ranks  go up against legends trying to complete our missions, we have to content with things like that.    

Of course, he probably has an excuse that he was just “testing something out”…

[FLIP1 35]

1 hour ago, LambSauce said:

Of course, he probably has an excuse that he was just “testing something out”…

There are test servers for that. the guy is just taking advantage of his position 

[LambSauce 1,884]

1 minute ago, FLIP1 said:

There are test servers for that. the guy is just taking advantage of his position 

Actually sometimes they have to test things out specifically on the live servers, but I’m not excusing him for that.

[FLIP1 35]

Tanki needs to change the time of the in game events which are posted in the chat. some people can't ever play them because of the time zone and they should either keep switching times so everybody can play some events or have multiple times the contests are available