Was the MM system always unbalanced ?

[wolverine848 13,097]

28 minutes ago, TinBoxGunner said:

In low rank battles I have been queuing for ctf most of the time but was put to different battle like Siege for example. That if any tells us that player base starts to be too thin. Devs should remove the least popular battle modes for good.

They need to move Assault out of MM to Custom battles.

Possibly the next least-played mode as well.  There are too many modes that thin out the player pool.

[TheCongoSpider 8,957]

20 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

They need to move Assault out of MM to Custom battles.

Possibly the next least-played mode as well.  There are too many modes that thin out the player pool.

I, too, would like to see Assault removed from the MM pool. Only problem is that it would make "Capture x flags" missions unbearable for the average player. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

18 minutes ago, TheCongoSpider said:

I, too, would like to see Assault removed from the MM pool. Only problem is that it would make "Capture x flags" missions unbearable for the average player. 

Yeah, but that mode is broken.  There's a 50/50 chance you get placed on defender.  And that's why many players jump ship shortly after the battle starts.

[KvC 0]

https://prnt.sc/vxymhj

Matchmaking? more like mismatchmaking why am i up against people with 5/6 times more xp than me??
I mean i still beat them but that is besides the point!

[yellowghetto 3,206]

The experiment sucks. But I thought Matchmaking before was just alright. There are some matches that were completely unfair regarding Rank Limits. I think MM should just lock out ranks that go beyond the minimum and maximum Rank Limit. 

@MysticBlood, Legends vs General is normal. Major General is the assumed minimum.

Edited December 9, 2020 by yellowghetto

[wolverine848 13,097]

5 minutes ago, yellowghetto said:

The experiment sucks. But I thought Matchmaking before was just alright. There are some matches that were completely unfair regarding Rank Limits. I think MM should just lock out ranks that go beyond the minimum and maximum Rank Limit. 

@MysticBlood, Legends vs General is normal. Brigadier is the assumed minimum.

Maximum rank limit?  They pretty much do this now.

Have you looked further down?  A  Lt. General would still be playing Legends.  That's too far.

Or a Brigadier playing Gismo.  7 ranks higher with access (and time) to upgrade mk7s.

 

[yellowghetto 3,206]

4 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Maximum rank limit?  They pretty much do this now.

Have you looked further down?  A  Lt. General would still be playing Legends.  That's too far.

Or a Brigadier playing Gismo.  7 ranks higher with access (and time) to upgrade mk7s.

 

Look and Legend, the minimum rank is Major General, but I have seen MM mess up before and I fought a Lieutenant Colonel. That is ridiculous.

Again, I reached Legend when MM was there. Seen lots of unfair MM in my days.

Edited December 9, 2020 by yellowghetto
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[alkyng 3,080]

On 12/7/2020 at 11:23 PM, wolverine848 said:

They need to move Assault out of MM to Custom battles.

Possibly the next least-played mode as well.  There are too many modes that thin out the player pool.

I think Siege is worst, also Assault is bad, but not compared to Siege.

[wolverine848 13,097]

5 minutes ago, yellowghetto said:

Again, I reached Legend when MM was there. Seen lots of unfair MM in my days.

Yes.  Which is why they need to change it.   Keeping status quo because "we suffered too" is a poor strategy.

It's dumb for players to be placed in battles with rank-ranges that wide.  Players will get frustrated and just quit the game.  Another reason why we keep losing players and MM gets even worse.

[Okami 3,041]

It was always unbalanced, and this current experiment has made it worse.

It could be because the time I play has the least amount of players (I play right after the server restart), but sometimes I get put in battles where a quarter to a third of the players on both teams are around Brigadier-Marshal and have really low GS values (at least compared to Legends).

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

On 12/9/2020 at 11:32 AM, wolverine848 said:

A  Lt. General would still be playing Legends.  That's too far.

That really reminded me that me and you were in an Assault battle couple days ago (but then you left in mid-game).

Edited December 10, 2020 by FrozenRailgun

[Okami 3,041]

17 minutes ago, GrayWolf8733 said:

It could be because the time I play has the least amount of players (I play right after the server restart), but sometimes I get put in battles where a quarter to a third of the players on both teams are around Brigadier-Marshal and have really low GS values (at least compared to Legends).

I rest my case. This actually happened right now.

[wolverine848 13,097]

43 minutes ago, FrozenRailgun said:

That really reminded me that me and you were in an Assault battle couple days ago (but then you left in mid-game).

mid-battle?  I might leave early if... I get placed on defender side but have a cap-flags mission or... my team is doing nothing - so why waste my time.

Mid-way though ... was there maybe a couple of those ridiculous Gauss-EMPs?

[Debt-Collector 1,617]

@GrayWolf8733 LOL Nice kill streak XD. But I see low ranks in the battle less than a general that shouldn't be there.

[wolverine848 13,097]

7 minutes ago, MysticBlood said:

@GrayWolf8733 LOL Nice kill streak XD. But I see low ranks in the battle less than a general that shouldn't be there.

Brigadier - LOL.  Only 8 ranks lower than the Legends.  MatchMaker truly is dumb.

[alkyng 3,080]

1 hour ago, GrayWolf8733 said:

I rest my case. This actually happened right now.

why you use Heavy Weight in MM!! I think Heat Immunity is way more better if you have it.

[Okami 3,041]

6 minutes ago, asem.harbi said:

why you use Heavy Weight in MM!! I think Heat Immunity is way more better if you have it.

I don't have Heat Immunity for Hunter.

Also, I think Heavyweight Construction is not only better than Heat Immunity, but it's underrated too. Heavyweight Construction makes my tank much more stable (which I love), and it makes taking Gold Boxes a breeze. I don't even notice any decrease in acceleration.

Edited December 11, 2020 by GrayWolf8733

[alkyng 3,080]

21 minutes ago, GrayWolf8733 said:

I don't have Heat Immunity for Hunter.

Also, I think Heavyweight Construction is not only better than Heat Immunity, but it's underrated too. Heavyweight Construction makes my tank much more stable (which I love), and it makes taking Gold Boxes a breeze. I don't even notice any decrease in acceleration.

You know better cuz I haven't test it. but I think it's incredibly powerful in Parkour mode.. but in MM, I thought it's bad as -30% in acceleration. but as there is no a noticeable difference, so it's not that bad.. But I think stabilization isn't that much compared to "Heat, AP, Stun Immunities", especially when Hunter have a good weight and stability, compared to Viking.

[Debt-Collector 1,617]

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Edited December 16, 2020 by MysticBlood
misplaced the post XD

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

On 12/10/2020 at 7:28 PM, GrayWolf8733 said:

Heavyweight Construction makes my tank much more stable (which I love), and it makes taking Gold Boxes a breeze. I don't even notice any decrease in acceleration.

*Proceeds to buy Heavyweight Construction on XMas*

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

So, 16v16 is over...

I was playing on one of my alternate accounts when this happened....

 

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(Is it just me, or is the top player on my team a BRIGADIER?!?!?)

[Debt-Collector 1,617]

This Match Making is unacceptable you see a major in a game of legends. 

[Debt-Collector 1,617]

8 minutes ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

So, 16v16 is over...

I was playing on one of my alternate accounts when this happened....

 

 

(Is it just me, or is the top player on my team a BRIGADIER?!?!?)

Yes it seems So. This is proof how broken MM system really is.

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

Just now, MysticBlood said:

This Match Making is unacceptable you see a major in a game of legends.

And the thing is, that Major's GS isn't even that high :(


Also, I looked up one of the players in that match (the top player on your team) and turns out they are ranked Legend 24!!!

Which, means that Major is matched against someone 34 ranks higher than they are!

[Tokamak 1,021]

10 hours ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

And the thing is, that Major's GS isn't even that high :(
Also, I looked up one of the players in that match (the top player on your team) and turns out they are ranked Legend 24!!!
Which, means that Major is matched against someone 34 ranks higher than they are!

lol, that doesn't work quite like that, once you get legend the ranking number is pointless. All players at legend would have MK7 equipment. What counts is the GS.