declined Remove hopper from xp/bp

[Watermelon 86]

Remove hopper as an option when joining xp bp. It's a light hull but it ruins the concept of the format. It's been "xp" railgun-hornet and "bp" railgun-wasp. We dont need hopper in xp bp battles. 

[Spy 14,694]

Valid

Declined

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

Wait, you can actually do that?!?!?!

I mean, you're able to equip Hopper in xp/bp format battles?? XD

[E_polypterus 2,374]

14 hours ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

I mean, you're able to equip Hopper in xp/bp format battles??

Welcome to Tanki Online.

[alkyng 3,080]

I don't care about Hopper. Tanki ruined xp/bp many times from its initials, not just this time with hopper.

Btw, sometimes I agree with Tanki about their acts in xp/bp. because there are players literally didn't play anything than xp. reach some of them 2000 hours just in xp/bp, and other turrets in really really rare occasions they play.

[Maf 32,300]

On 12/8/2020 at 12:41 AM, Tanker-Arthur said:

Wait, you can actually do that?!?!?!

I mean, you're able to equip Hopper in xp/bp format battles?? XD

Technically, "XP" is just the RU acronym for Hornet Railgun (Хорнет Рельса), and if you replace Hornet with Hopper, it still fits the XP acronym

Also, I don't see why Hopper can't be allowed in format battles. It's still just a light hull with similar speed and HP as Wasp and Hornet. Its only advantage is the increased stability.

[wolverine848 13,097]

55 minutes ago, Maf said:

Also, I don't see why Hopper can't be allowed in format battles. It's still just a light hull with similar speed and HP as Wasp and Hornet. Its only advantage is the increased stability.

It has different movement characteristics.  Quite different.  Trying to target it is not the same as targeting a hornet.

[Son_Goku 514]

1 hour ago, Maf said:

Also, I don't see why Hopper can't be allowed in format battles. It's still just a light hull with similar speed and HP as Wasp and Hornet. Its only advantage is the increased stability.

Its increased stability makes shots possible that you just can't take with Wasp or Hornet (+ you can't be flipped) and its increased maneuverability allows you to play around some spots Wasp and Hornet can't (edges etc.), allowing faster gameplay, since the other hulls could get stuck in such areas. Hopper has its own style in XP/BP, whereas Hornet and Wasp have basically the same one. So it just doesn't fit.

There would be no problem if it had its own format

[alkyng 3,080]

1 hour ago, Maf said:

Technically, "XP" is just the RU acronym for Hornet Railgun (Хорнет Рельса), and if you replace Hornet with Hopper, it still fits the XP acronym

Lol, but to be honest, the problem isn't in the name. The problem we completely didn't want to see Hopper in this gamemode, either its name fits or not.

[Maf 32,300]

For some reason I now really want to go play XP/BP with Hopper

brb

[Karot 251]

1 hour ago, Maf said:

For some reason I now really want to go play XP/BP with Hopper

brb

bruh lmao

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

2 hours ago, Maf said:

Technically, "XP" is just the RU acronym for Hornet Railgun (Хорнет Рельса), and if you replace Hornet with Hopper, it still fits the XP acronym

 

Ohh okay.

For a moment I thought it was some sort of programming error/bug lol.

[Spy 14,694]

I wouldn't mind having a mode for Hopper + Railgun only, it actually sounds fun. But allowing Hopper in XP/BP is not a good idea in my opinion, every time I see someone with Hopper in my battle I leave.

[Picassoo 191]

23 hours ago, Maf said:

Also, I don't see why Hopper can't be allowed in format battles. It's still just a light hull with similar speed and HP as Wasp and Hornet. Its only advantage is the increased stability.

If you're driving to shoot someone from behind a wall, you can strafe sideways to do so. Combined with superior acceleration you'll be a much smaller target, your aim will be harder to knock off, and you'll be exposed for a shorter time. This means you can shoot anyone that peaks from behind a wall super easily while they can't do this to you. You are also impossible to flip and can manoeuvre easily without drifting or slowing down. You can even shoot mid-air without the risk of your opponent flipping you.

At long range even good players may miss it on open terrain as it strafes. It is not just a considerably than Hornet like Wasp is. It is way better than both.

And even if it were balanced, XP/BP is about Hornet/Wasp + Railgun. There is no place for hulls that play way differently.

On 12/8/2020 at 1:01 PM, asem.harbi said:

I don't care about Hopper. Tanki ruined xp/bp many times from its initials, not just this time with hopper.

Btw, sometimes I agree with Tanki about their acts in xp/bp. because there are players literally didn't play anything than xp. reach some of them 2000 hours just in xp/bp, and other turrets in really really rare occasions they play.

But what's wrong with that?

Take me as an expample. I used to enjoy playing normal battles very much in 2014, even in 2017 I still had fun playing. Now that I have no fun in playing MM I still play XP/BP while I enjoy it. Do you think I'd move to MM if XP/BP was removed? I'd just quit, and so would others who only enjoy XP/BP.

[alkyng 3,080]

17 minutes ago, Picassoo said:

But what's wrong with that?

Take me as an expample. I used to enjoy playing normal battles very much in 2014, even in 2017 I still had fun playing. Now that I have no fun in playing MM I still play XP/BP while I enjoy it. Do you think I'd move to MM if XP/BP was removed? I'd just quit, and so would others who only enjoy XP/BP.

That's what developers did, not me. If I had the choice maybe I would make xp/bp balanced for all, when you enter you get Mk7 Hornet-Railgun for all with LCR Augment.

When you don't like MM, you can play other battles in battle list, not must xp/bp. And you'd quit if xp/bp removed? I agree with you completely, if the fun goes, for sure the best thing to do is to quit.

[asdasemm 925]

To be honest, I wish xp/bp sticks to xp and bp only too. Addition of hopper can change the game. maybe, creating a different mode will fix this.

[Watermelon 86]

On 12/9/2020 at 8:40 AM, Maf said:

Technically, "XP" is just the RU acronym for Hornet Railgun (Хорнет Рельса), and if you replace Hornet with Hopper, it still fits the XP acronym

Also, I don't see why Hopper can't be allowed in format battles. It's still just a light hull with similar speed and HP as Wasp and Hornet. Its only advantage is the increased stability.

I wanna slap you with a watermelon slice (yes thats a threat) 

[Maf 32,300]

19 minutes ago, MoneyLordYT said:

 (yes thats a threat) 

[Venerable 2,969]

@MoneyLordYT 

I feel bad for you...

See you after you return from Brazil! (cuz Maf is gonna send u there most prolly... )

[a-pr0-from-greece 22]

Hello readers,

I want to tell my opinion about the new update that the hoppers can play xp/bp.

Hoppers have just ruined the xp/bp batlles because they are light hulls and they can move anyware because of the mouse controlls.

I have asked a lot of people and they have said that they don't like hoippers at xp/bp battles at all.

Take my suggestion to yor mind and please make it to the game too.

A tanker,

a-pr0-from-greece

PS: What is your real opinion about the hoppers at xp/bp battles?

I am curious about your answer.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

On 12/9/2020 at 8:57 AM, Maf said:

For some reason I now really want to go play XP/BP with Hopper

brb

LOL

[Venerable 2,969]

After facing Hoppers in XP/BP battles, I agree that shooting at a Hopper is not difficult, tbh, but very weird. You have to use a completely different approach. It gets on your nerves when you try to shoot at Hoppers like you would shoot Wasps or Hornets - they simply move differently and you miss your shot. The strafing ability is a major challenge.

But it also has disadvantages, the most noticeable one being the inability to swing/rock effectively. Even in maps like Sandbox, Hoppers tend to miss while aiming from the platform to a tank below. And vice versa.

Overall, I feel that we should adapt to the situation and use a new style while dealing with Hoppers. I agree that it's frustrating - but Hopper does make the XP/BP gameplay more exciting and dynamic (especially when it cannot jump and stun and burn... hehe).

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

I feel like a new format battle should be added....

It's called "xp/xp/bp". In xp/xp/bp, you are allowed to use Railgun with Wasp, Hornet, or Hopper.

Meanwhile, the current "xp/bp" we've known for years will only be limited to Railgun with Wasp and Hornet.

[Watermelon 86]

Watermelon

[JustBlackWolf 875]

On 2/9/2021 at 3:11 PM, MoneyLordYT said:

Remove hopper from xp/bp

Lemme fix that for you

Spoiler

Remove hopper