event Festive season

[Bydo 20,119]

7 hours ago, At_Shin said:

Everything will be at 50% discount!!! I'm excited about Cookie camping. ..err...using gingerbread mines.

you forgot about those falling tree's that fell off the sleigh .. but be warn more about those loose pine cones or the surprised squirrel who got stuck in it..

[Cabos 212]

1 hour ago, SONIC-BOOM said:

Okie dokie, i was winning anyways

Merry xmas @Spy and a jolly happy new year

And that was meant with sincerity by the way.

I was just saying that I like these special missions, and you started saying blabbing about how I would get mines and speed boost. I don't know why, i just wanted to tell everyone I like the missions

[EmeraldCat 562]

I believe @wolverine848 is right, this double XP boost is a little too much for 17 days straight. Currently we got the 4x perma-boost, double that and we've got 8x XP. Now, currently, I dislike the 4x perma-boost because I feel that I was levelling up too fast even for my own equipment. If I can go from Major to Brigadier in just a few weeks of playing not too much, then there's definitely a problem. Imagine those low level players trying to upgrade their equipment, but they upgrade so fast that they're now at Warrant Officer 5 and they still don't got Mk3 equipment.

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

Wow well the devs have went to some effort for this Christmas and NY celebration, I must say it looks great - however everything is overshadowed and tainted by one sad thing which I will come to later.

I will start with the positive: really nice of the devs to effectively give us 6 free ultra containers tomorrow with those super-easy missions - and also many of the other missions are easy enough to complete. "drop 5 gold boxes" is a buyer only mission unless you get lucky, but still most people are never going to get 50k battle points in a week anyway so it doesn't matter - many of the missions are achievable for the average player. Don't like the x2 exp but we have cool special modes, and even the snowman paint events look interesting too. And the gingerbread mines are a cool touch, lol. So all in all looks great - and of course the awesome 50% sales.

However this is the problem, as Noghtfly has mentioned:

9 hours ago, Noghtfly said:

I really don't know why I should waste time to this game, as my country will be banned within a few days from playing Tanki. So, I really don't care what Tanki will do this Christmas. 

While all of us are enjoying the special events tomorrow is the day that Alternativa will start restrictions for players from the NL/Belgium regions, they may not even be able to access this site, and they won't be able to play (except on VPN) in 1 weeks time. Many players from NL/Belgium have played the game for years and put huge effort into their accounts, and many of them have even spent a lot of money in the game (probably many on the huge Black Friday sales only recently) and the way this has been handled is a total disgrace from Alternativa. This announcement came with only a short 2-3 week notice period after many have spent on Black Friday, and for this major news there is no forum post, no public apology and explanation for this from the developers - we wouldn't even know about this if players from NL/Belgium hadn't told us.

This comes because of the new laws regarding loot boxes in NL/Belgium. Now many other games (I can't mention the names here I suppose) have made changes to their games to comply with these new laws and allow NL/Belgium players to continue to play the game. It would have been well within Alternativa's power to do the same, but instead their treatment of players for years from these regions, and indeed many paying customers is a shame. If they treat players from these regions like this, this shows their attitude to players in general I'm afraid - I would certainly be reluctant to invest money in the game seeing that they would plan to pull something like this.

I will accept that indeed these new laws do put Alternative in a difficult position but this is far from the right response. The only positive spin I can possibly put on the lack of a public announcement, explanation and apology to NL/Belgium tankers is that they do no want to draw attention to the fact they are asking people to get around the new laws by continuing to play Tanki on a VPN. I am not sure if there is any law against this but these laws were made for a reason - encouraging players to use a VPN to technically break the laws of their own country is dodgy at best. Furthermore players from these regions will not now be able to buy in the Shop (unless they actually lie and say they are from a region other than NL/Belgium - which Tanki can't ask players to do), so really this is hurting Alternativa also. They need to do the right thing by players from these regions and put in the effort to make changes so that these players can still legally play, just as other games have done. This is the only right and fair approach.

By the way - my country (the UK), the EU and USA are all looking into banning loot boxes. So when a lootbox ban for these countries comes (and it will), will they ban us all? They need to think more carefully about this and do better for NL/Belgium players, make the right changes, they might as well because new laws are coming across Europe, and other parts of the world, and this issue is not going away.

Edited December 24, 2020 by DestrotankAI9

[Mick 103]

12 minutes ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

Wauw, de ontwikkelaars hebben hun best gedaan voor deze kerst- en NY-viering, ik moet zeggen dat het er geweldig uitziet - maar alles wordt overschaduwd en besmet door een triest iets waar ik later op terugkom.

Ik zal beginnen met het positieve, erg aardige van de ontwikkelaars om ons morgen effectief 6 gratis ultra-containers te geven met die supergemakkelijke missies - en ook veel van de andere missies zijn eenvoudig genoeg om te voltooien. "drop 5 gold boxes" is een missie die alleen voor de koper is, tenzij je geluk hebt, maar toch zullen de meeste mensen nooit 50.000 gevechtspunten in een week krijgen, dus het maakt niet uit - veel van de missies zijn haalbaar voor de gemiddelde speler. Ik hou niet van de x2 exp, maar we hebben coole speciale modi en zelfs de sneeuwman-verfevenementen zien er ook interessant uit. En de peperkoekmijnen zijn een coole toets, lol. Dus al met al ziet het er geweldig uit - en natuurlijk de geweldige 50% omzet.

Dit is echter het probleem, zoals Noghtfly heeft gezegd:

Hoewel we allemaal genieten van de speciale evenementen, is het morgen de dag dat Alternativa beperkingen zal instellen voor spelers uit de regio's NL / België, ze hebben misschien niet eens toegang tot deze site en kunnen niet spelen (behalve op VPN) in 1 week tijd. Veel spelers uit NL / België hebben het spel jarenlang gespeeld en enorm veel moeite gestoken in hun accounts, en velen van hen hebben zelfs veel geld in het spel uitgegeven (waarschijnlijk veel aan de enorme Black Friday-uitverkoop pas sinds kort) en de manier waarop dit is afgehandeld is een totale schande van Alternativa. Deze aankondiging kwam met slechts een korte opzegtermijn van 2-3 weken nadat velen op Black Friday hebben doorgebracht, en voor dit belangrijke nieuws is er geen forumbericht, geen openbare verontschuldiging en uitleg hiervoor van de ontwikkelaars - we zouden het niet eens weten over dit als spelers uit NL / België het ons niet hadden verteld.

Dit komt door de nieuwe wetten omtrent loot boxes in NL / België. Nu hebben veel andere spellen (ik kan de namen hier niet noemen, veronderstel ik) wijzigingen in hun spellen aangebracht om aan deze nieuwe wetten te voldoen en Nederlandse / Belgische spelers het spel te laten spelen. Het zou binnen de macht van Alternativa liggen om hetzelfde te doen, maar in plaats daarvan is hun behandeling van spelers uit deze regio's, en inderdaad veel betalende klanten, een schande. Als ze spelers uit deze regio's op deze manier behandelen, toont dit hun houding ten opzichte van spelers in het algemeen, vrees ik - ik zou zeker terughoudend zijn om geld in het spel te investeren, aangezien ze van plan zouden zijn om zoiets te doen.

Ik zal accepteren dat deze nieuwe wetten Alternative inderdaad in een moeilijke positie plaatsen, maar dit is verre van het juiste antwoord. De enige positieve draai die ik mogelijk kan maken aan het ontbreken van een openbare aankondiging, uitleg en verontschuldiging aan NL / Belgische tankers is dat ze geen aandacht willen vestigen op het feit dat ze mensen vragen om de nieuwe wetten te omzeilen door te blijven spelen Tanki op een VPN. Ik weet niet zeker of er een wet tegen is, maar deze wetten zijn met een reden gemaakt - spelers aanmoedigen om een VPN te gebruiken om technisch de wetten van hun eigen land te overtreden, is op zijn best dodelijk. Bovendien zullen spelers uit deze regio's nu niet in de winkel kunnen kopen (tenzij ze echt liegen en zeggen dat ze uit een andere regio dan NL / België komen - wat Tanki spelers niet kan vragen), dus dit doet Alternativa echt pijn. ook. Ze moeten het juiste doen door spelers uit deze regio's en moeite doen om wijzigingen aan te brengen, zodat deze spelers nog steeds legaal kunnen spelen, net zoals andere spellen hebben gedaan. Dit is de enige juiste en eerlijke benadering.

Trouwens - mijn land (het VK), de EU en de VS zijn allemaal bezig met het verbieden van lootboxes. Dus als er een lootbox-ban voor deze landen komt (en dat zal gebeuren), zullen ze ons dan allemaal verbannen? Ze moeten hier beter over nadenken en het beter doen voor NL / Belgische spelers, de juiste veranderingen doorvoeren, dat kunnen ze net zo goed doen omdat er nieuwe wetten komen in Europa en andere delen van de wereld, en dit probleem gaat niet weg.

I fully agree with you with everything you say. I am from the Netherlands I have been a big fan of this game for 6 years and suddenly I have to stop it makes a difference that I can continue to play this game with a VPN and TO say that it is is not prohibited but still I do not think they can make this just like that.

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

3 minutes ago, Boef said:

I fully agree with you with everything you say. I am from the Netherlands I have been a big fan of this game for 6 years and suddenly I have to stop it makes a difference that I can continue to play this game with a VPN and TO say that it is is not prohibited but still I do not think they can make this just like that.

Thanks man, I am sorry for the situation you guys are facing :( Yes at least you have a VPN for now - I don't know much about VPNs but I gather NordVPN or SurfShark are good. Anyway, it is very easy to find more about this situation with some quick google searches, but here is one article:

https://sbcnews.co.uk/esports-fantasy/2020/07/29/eu-research-agency-demands-urgent-action-on-loot-box-consumer-safeguards/

This issue is not going away, and it is going to soon affect many of us - NL and Belgium are just the first. Tanki just can't do this, unless they plan a future with only Russia and the Middle East or all of us forced to play on VPNs. Just put in the effort to make some changes like other games have - it isn't hard - Tank survived for years without containers which only were introduced to the game a few years ago, so there is no reason they can't still do that now.

 

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, MrCruise said:

PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE. I HAVE NO TIME TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER. THANK YOU!

Oh grow up.

If you don't want people responding to you, don't post to them.

 

There's a lot of Legend players, and many of them seem to love the extra experience since they get to next L-level and 40k faster.

And yet, even with those Legends playing all that extra time, the number of active players goes down.  Go figure...

Edited December 24, 2020 by wolverine848

[wolverine848 13,097]

2 hours ago, asem.harbi said:

According to MAF? LOL maybe he just said it as an expecting or a random info, and you took it as your source

I'll put more stock in that than some random player posting that "they are in the know"... seeing as it ... makes sense.

[SONIC-BOOM 326]

48 minutes ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

Wow well the devs have went to some effort for this Christmas and NY celebration, I must say it looks great - however everything is overshadowed and tainted by one sad thing which I will come to later.

I will start with the positive, really nice of the devs to effectively give us 6 free ultra containers tomorrow with those super-easy missions - and also many of the other missions are easy enough to complete. "drop 5 gold boxes" is a buyer only mission unless you get lucky, but still most people are never going to get 50k battle points in a week anyway so it doesn't matter - many of the missions are achievable for the average player. Don't like the x2 exp but we have cool special modes, and even the snowman paint events look interesting too. And the gingerbread mines are a cool touch, lol. So all in all looks great - and of course the awesome 50% sales.

However this is the problem, as Noghtfly has mentioned:

While all of us are enjoying the special events tomorrow is the day that Alternativa will start restrictions for players from the NL/Belgium regions, they may not even be able to access this site, and they won't be able to play (except on VPN) in 1 weeks time. Many players from NL/Belgium have played the game for years and put huge effort into their accounts, and many of them have even spent a lot of money in the game (probably many on the huge Black Friday sales only recently) and the way this has been handled is a total disgrace from Alternativa. This announcement came with only a short 2-3 week notice period after many have spent on Black Friday, and for this major news there is no forum post, no public apology and explanation for this from the developers - we wouldn't even know about this if players from NL/Belgium hadn't told us.

This comes because of the new laws regarding loot boxes in NL/Belgium. Now many other games (I can't mention the names here I suppose) have made changes to their games to comply with these new laws and allow NL/Belgium players to continue to play the game. It would have been well within Alternativa's power to do the same, but instead their treatment of players for years from these regions, and indeed many paying customers is a shame. If they treat players from these regions like this, this shows their attitude to players in general I'm afraid - I would certainly be reluctant to invest money in the game seeing that they would plan to pull something like this.

I will accept that indeed these new laws do put Alternative in a difficult position but this is far from the right response. The only positive spin I can possibly put on the lack of a public announcement, explanation and apology to NL/Belgium tankers is that they do no want to draw attention to the fact they are asking people to get around the new laws by continuing to play Tanki on a VPN. I am not sure if there is any law against this but these laws were made for a reason - encouraging players to use a VPN to technically break the laws of their own country is dodgy at best. Furthermore players from these regions will not now be able to buy in the Shop (unless they actually lie and say they are from a region other than NL/Belgium - which Tanki can't ask players to do), so really this is hurting Alternativa also. They need to do the right thing by players from these regions and put in the effort to make changes so that these players can still legally play, just as other games have done. This is the only right and fair approach.

By the way - my country (the UK), the EU and USA are all looking into banning lootboxes. So when a lootbox ban for these countries comes (and it will), will they ban us all? They need to think more carefully about this and do better for NL/Belgium players, make the right changes, they might as well because new laws are coming across Europe, and other parts of the world, and this issue is not going away.

How incredibly spot on.

IT IS A SHAME that the devs treat their players with such contempt.

As always their utter greed has overshadowed the true spirit of TO, to give all players a fair chance of competing in battles against their own counterparts (ranks) with a chance of doing well in battle depending on their skill, and not just because they have cash to enhance their garage. 

I have defended TO in as much that i understand they need to generate cash, to keep TO a viable and up to date exciting game.

They need to come to a compromise very quickly in order to keep TO going for years to come.

I feel sorry for those players in those 2 countries that have by all accounts wasted their time, effort, and like you said probably cash, on a game that by the turn of the year they will no longer be able to access (legally).

It's all seems to be coming full circle, bad management leading to the certain demise of a game, that thousands of players have for the most part enjoyed for years. 

Cash does not always fix everything as the devs seem to think when it comes to TO.

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

35 minutes ago, SONIC-BOOM said:

How incredibly spot on.

IT IS A SHAME that the devs treat their players with such contempt.

As always their utter greed has overshadowed the true spirit of TO, to give all players a fair chance of competing in battles against their own counterparts (ranks) with a chance of doing well in battle depending on their skill, and not just because they have cash to enhance their garage. 

I have defended TO in as much that i understand they need to generate cash, to keep TO a viable and up to date exciting game.

They need to come to a compromise very quickly in order to keep TO going for years to come.

I feel sorry for those players in those 2 countries that have by all accounts wasted their time, effort, and like you said probably cash, on a game that by the turn of the year they will no longer be able to access (legally).

It's all seems to be coming full circle, bad management leading to the certain demise of a game, that thousands of players have for the most part enjoyed for years. 

Cash does not always fix everything as the devs seem to think when it comes to TO.

I am afraid when you look at how they have just decided to treat these Netherlands and Belgian players (and many of these even buying players) in this situation this really shows something of their attitude to the player base - and that something is sadly not good. Just Google on how other games have responded to this law and you will see a marked difference, compromises are made to make the game still playable for players from these regions and a full and public explanation is given from the developers.

Also - one very popular game Tank game (which shall remain nameless) which uses loot boxes won't even allow discussion on the forums of VPNs to get around the new laws (any threads about such things are shut down), yet Alternativa is directly telling players to use a VPN to get around the laws and play the game - I am sorry but this is not ethically right. The correct response is to make the necessary modifications to the game in order that players from these regions can play legally without a VPN, and this would not be difficult to do. Indeed - they will soon have to do this anyway if Tanki Online is to remain playable in a vast number of countries as the law on loot boxes tightens, so it is in their own interest.

Now I know Alternativa is just a relatively small games development company and that English isn't their first language, but still it is easy - just remove buyable loot boxes (Containers and Ultra Containers) from the shop for players in these regions, and also modify methods that would allow you to get "free" lootboxes from the battle pass/weekly missions/special missions more easily. Other than removing containers from the shop, some changes would need to be made to premium account and containers within battle pass changed to something else. "Free" containers from weekly/special missions are still OK, and Items obtainable from Containers/Ultras only can be sold through other ways if desired. I will aim to publish a suggestion for the simple changes needed that Tanki could legally still operate in these regions when I have more time shortly after Christmas.

Edited December 25, 2020 by DestrotankAI9

[SONIC-BOOM 326]

6 minutes ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

I am afraid when you look at how they have just decided to treat these Netherlands and Belgian players (and many of these even buying players) in this situation this really shows something of their attitude to the player base - and that something is sadly not good. Just Google on how other games have responded to this law and you will see a marked difference, compromises are made to make the game still playable for players from these regions and a full and public explanation is given from the developers.

Also - one very popular game Tank game (which shall remain nameless) which uses loot boxes won't even allow discussion on the forums of VPNs to get around the new laws (any threads about such things are shut down), yet Alternativa is directly telling players to use a VPN to get around the laws and play the game - I am sorry but this is not ethically right. The correct response is to make the necessary modifications to the game in order that players from these regions can play legally without a VPN, and this would not be difficult to do. Indeed - they will soon have to do this anyway if Tanki Online is to remain playable in a vast number of countries as the law on loot boxes tightens, so it is in their own interest.

Now I know Alternativa is just a relatively small games development company and that English isn't their first language, but still it is easy - just remove buyable loot boxes (Containers and Ultra Containers) from the shop, and also modify methods that would allow you to get "free" lootboxes from the battle pass/weekly missions/special missions more easily. Other than removing containers from the shop, some changes would need to be made to premium account and containers within battle pass changed to something else. "Free" containers from weekly/special missions are still OK, and Items obtainable from Containers/Ultras only can be sold through other ways if desired. I will aim to publish a suggestion for the simple changes needed that Tanki could legally still operate in these regions when I have more time shortly after Christmas.

I think i have the solution.

Make it so that paying a monthly subscription entitles you to participate in TO.

Make the subscription affordable to all, and keep the in game boxes available as non paying prizes for doing well in battles, competitions, completing special missions etc.

You can subscribe monthly to buy magazines, so why not to play a internet based game.

This is my idea to get around the loot box scenario, and keep TO as a viable game that can still generate cash and hopefully encourage more players to join, with the right advertising of course.  

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

9 minutes ago, SONIC-BOOM said:

I think i have the solution.

Make it so that paying a monthly subscription entitles you to participate in TO.

Make the subscription affordable to all, and keep the in game boxes available as non paying prizes for doing well in battles, competitions, completing special missions etc.

You can subscribe monthly to buy magazines, so why not to play a internet based game.

This is my idea to get around the loot box scenario, and keep TO as a viable game that can still generate cash and hopefully encourage more players to join, with the right advertising of course.  

Maybe! Well they already have the premium account and twice monthly battle pass as a "subscription" of sorts - as I say with some changes battle pass can still continue even under a lootbox ban.

It is nice the way they allow players to play for free, which they don't have to, but it gives a larger player base and other advantages for the game. They can simply sell the same items as you can get in Ultra Containers/Containers right now individually or in bundles, but as long as you know what you are getting and not paying money for an uncertain outcome (also known as gambling - which is why loot boxes are being banned) there is no problem and no violation of the law.

Containers are only a relatively recent addition to the game - it survived for many years before without them and it can still do so,

Edited December 25, 2020 by DestrotankAI9

[Cabos 212]

In the special missions tab, I don't see the following missions:

Mission: Ice Citadel

Mission: Snowballs

Mission: Cross-country skiing

Mission: Gingerbread

Mission: One, Two, Three! Light the Christmas Tree!

On the Festive Season forum post by Marcus, it said the missions will appear December 25 2:00 UTC to December 26 2:00 UTC. It's already time, but I don't see it.

[SONIC-BOOM 326]

Point proven about the XP boost.

So they doubled the cry, who cares, you will still rank to quick to keep up with your garage.

Only fools see this as a good thing. It does nothing for low to mid ranks but bring them closer, and at a much faster pace to the higher ranks, who will see them as easy kills.

Tier 40 reached, parked up until this ridiculous XP boost is finished with.

That is now 4 accounts parked for the duration, way to go devs, you certainly no how to throw a xmas celebration. (NOT)

  

Edited December 25, 2020 by SONIC-BOOM

[wolverine848 13,097]

Thought I was seeing things when I looked at Special Mission requirements.

Does it actually say destroy 2020 tanks in 7 days?

[Okami 3,041]

19 hours ago, Marcus said:

Special missions available from December 25th 02:00 UTC till December 26th 02:00 UTC

 

• Mission: Spruce elixir
• Task: Use repair kit 21 times in matchmaking battles.
• Prize: 1 ultra container

 

• Mission: Ice Citadel
• Task: Use double armor 21 times in matchmaking battles.
• Prize: 1 ultra container

 

• Mission: Snowballs
• Task: Use double damage 21 times in matchmaking battles.
• Prize: 1 ultra container

 

• Mission: Cross-country skiing
• Task: Use «Speed Boost» supply 21 times in matchmaking battles.
• Prize:1 ultra container

 

• Mission: Gingerbread
• Task: Use mines 21 times in matchmaking battles.
• Prize: 1 ultra container

 

• Mission: One, Two, Three! Light the Christmas Tree!
• Task: Use overdrive 21 times in matchmaking battles.
• Prize: 1 ultra container

I only see "Spruce Elixir" in my Special Missions tab. Do I have to complete it and then move on to "Ice Citadel", or was there a typo and there's going to be only one of these types of missions per day? ("Ice Citadel" will be tomorrow, "Snowballs" will be the day after that, and so on)

[Spinister 1,192]

^ Please help about this, we have already missed some of the time.

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

For a starting point, I have completed those two missions.

[Mick 103]

Why is the everything exactly the same as previous year come on tanki. 

[Juodai_Baltas 19]

20 hours ago, Marcus said:

• Mission: Ice Citadel
• Task: Use double armor 21 times in matchmaking battles.
• Prize: 1 ultra container

 

• Mission: Snowballs
• Task: Use double damage 21 times in matchmaking battles.
• Prize: 1 ultra container

 

• Mission: Cross-country skiing
• Task: Use «Speed Boost» supply 21 times in matchmaking battles.
• Prize:1 ultra container

 

• Mission: Gingerbread
• Task: Use mines 21 times in matchmaking battles.
• Prize: 1 ultra container

 

• Mission: One, Two, Three! Light the Christmas Tree!
• Task: Use overdrive 21 times in matchmaking battles.
• Prize: 1 ultra container

where r these missions?

[Thankxtu 286]

I thought the gold boxes would have the Christmas design but its still plain even though the siren has changed.

[Okami 3,041]

8 minutes ago, Thankxtu said:

I thought the gold boxes would have the Christmas design but its still plain even though the siren has changed.

If a player manually drops a Gold Box, the design doesn't change. I guess there are a lot of people dropping Gold Boxes.

[Venerable 2,967]

1 hour ago, krish123_super said:

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1 hour ago, Juodai_Baltas said:

where r these missions?

 

1 hour ago, Spinister said:

^ Please help about this, we have already missed some of the time.

These missions will be available one at a time, as far as I've inferred from the main post and the V-LOG. Each mission will last 24 hours.

So today we had "use 21 Repair Kits", and maybe tomorrow we'll have "use 21 Double Damage"... And so on.

[lssimo 1,559]

11 hours ago, krish123_super said:

hey @Spy i cant find all 15 missions 

i am missing these missions 

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• Mission: Ice Citadel
• Task: Use double armor 21 times in matchmaking battles.
• Prize: 1 ultra container

 

• Mission: Snowballs
• Task: Use double damage 21 times in matchmaking battles.
• Prize: 1 ultra container

 

• Mission: Cross-country skiing
• Task: Use «Speed Boost» supply 21 times in matchmaking battles.
• Prize:1 ultra container

 

• Mission: Gingerbread
• Task: Use mines 21 times in matchmaking battles.
• Prize: 1 ultra container

 

• Mission: One, Two, Three! Light the Christmas Tree!
• Task: Use overdrive 21 times in matchmaking battles.
• Prize: 1 ultra container

@At_Shin

Translation: "hey @Spy i cant find all 6 easy missions"

Could be like Venerabile said, that we'll get one easy mission per day. 

Edited December 25, 2020 by Emil
Kindly refrain from using inappropirate language.

[lssimo 1,559]

2 minutes ago, krish123_super said:

Check the Russian forum, maybe they got the right dates, if ours is wrong.