invalid Twins Needs a Buff or Rework.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

Call me crazy if you want, but this is truly how I feel.

If I want to use a short range turret, I would just use a turret like Hammer, or Ricochet. EVEN MELEE TURRETS!

I just feel that Twins is so mediocre with its overall performance, projectile speed, etc. It is supposed to be unique with its no-reload splash damage, but let's be honest here. Who uses that any more. You want fast shots? Go Vulcan. You want splash? Go Thunder, Magnum or Gauss.

The main advantage with Twins over Vulcan is its plasma impact force which can quickly knock off your opponent's aim if they are not skilled enough. Believe me, I used to play Twins all the time until it got power crept by these newer turrets, reworks and status effects.

Just like Thunder, Twins has been replaced, and became outdated.

Augments for Twins have nerfed the turret pretty hard and it honestly takes the fun out of it. 

Stabilized Plasma. Cool. No self damage. Makes Twins best effective a melee turret. Trash.

Heavy Plasmagun. More damage! More self damage! Slow Plasma! Trash. Just go Freeze or Firebird with their Mix Augments.

Plasma-Core Accelerators. Cool. Non-bouncing Ricochet!

 

I am suggesting that Twins either gets another slight rework, or just give it a buff in someway, because the way it is played now, can be done with other turrets with much cooler abilities.

[Spy 14,901]

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[mjmj5558 2,346]

I disagree. I just bought twins kit few days agi, and it's really powerfull, i can get awasome results with it. Also, when facing with a twins usung an other turrets, i don't feel that it's an easy target. If something needs a buff, then that thing is called isida.

[TheCongoSpider 8,969]

I do think Twins is a bit underpowered in the high ranks whenever I face it there. I would start with slightly increasing the projectile speed and see what happens from there. 

[alkyng 3,081]

I don't think is really Underpowered, I usually see Twinsers eating half of my health in just a few shoots, with incredibly strong knockback.

But the biggest disadvantage is the splash-damage, for sure it's a farce, and maybe I can consider it UP for this.

Btw, I hope if any buff will come to Twins to not come in Impact-force, because we already get enough annoyed by mults-noobs spamming Twinsers in our team.

Btw, in this video Mk8 Twins vs Mk8 Hunter, the drone I use is Driver. You can see the splash-damage damaged my Hornet pretty fast, because my Hornet is Mk1 I forgot to upgrade it, because I was something busy and just quickly created a battle to show.

 

[JustBlackWolf 885]

i would just buff the projectile speed, for the rest, the turret is balanced.

[E_polypterus 2,374]

Vulcan can actually beat Hammer and Ricochet too in medium range.. heat immunity and Incendiary  makes it more powerful and is the biggest reason for it being popular 

[yellowghetto 3,206]

4 hours ago, asem.harbi said:

I don't think is really Underpowered, I usually see Twinsers eating half of my health in just a few shoots, with incredibly strong knockback.

But the biggest disadvantage is the splash-damage, for sure it's a farce, and maybe I can consider it UP for this.

Btw, I hope if any buff will come to Twins to not come in Impact-force, because we already get enough annoyed by mults-noobs spamming Twinsers in our team.

Btw, in this video Mk8 Twins vs Mk8 Hunter, the drone I use is Driver. You can see the splash-damage damaged my Hornet pretty fast, because my Hornet is Mk1 I forgot to upgrade it, because I was something busy and just quickly created a battle to show.

 

Imagine sitting still  

[yellowghetto 3,206]

7 hours ago, mjmj5558 said:

I disagree. I just bought twins kit few days agi, and it's really powerfull, i can get awasome results with it. Also, when facing with a twins usung an other turrets, i don't feel that it's an easy target. If something needs a buff, then that thing is called isida.

Looking at your profile, you didn't buy any meta turrets! Your Ricochet and Shaft are probably better than Twins.

 

9 minutes ago, E_polypterus said:

Vulcan can actually beat Hammer and Ricochet too in medium range.. heat immunity and Incendiary  makes it more powerful and is the biggest reason for it being popular 

Nope, not even just Incendiary Band. Vulcan is just that powerful now.

 

So many Defender Drones. So many Panther users. I would only use my Twins now because of a Twins XT Skin flex. Otherwise, this turret will just collect dust with my other Mk7 turrets.

[mjmj5558 2,346]

1 minute ago, yellowghetto said:

Looking at your profile, you didn't buy any meta turrets! 

Yes, you are right. I like using skills and having fun, and i don't want to use combos like IBHI and kill everyone in one second. However, i think we shouldn't buff the already balanced or almost balanced turrets to make it better against the metas, but we should nerf down the OP turret, because if we always buff, in the end, everything will have 10000 DPS, but same hull health.

[E_polypterus 2,374]

1 hour ago, yellowghetto said:

Nope, not even just Incendiary Band. Vulcan is just that powerful now.

 

So many Defender Drones. So many Panther users. I would only use my Twins now because of a Twins XT Skin flex. Otherwise, this turret will just collect dust with my other Mk7 turrets

I was talking related to PRO battles. You’d be hard pressed to find a Vulcan user without at least IB these days. 

[yellowghetto 3,206]

40 minutes ago, E_polypterus said:

I was talking related to PRO battles. You’d be hard pressed to find a Vulcan user without at least IB these days. 

Really? I found 3 in the same battle when I logged in today! :( 

[yellowghetto 3,206]

1 hour ago, krish123_super said:

i don't think twins need a buff or rework 

i think it needs some more alterations and i'm waiting for twins skin ..i like its recoil effect for each shot ... boom boom ! i like a green small cylinders coming back of it for each pair of twins.

ideas for alterations : (1)acid touch : another status effect and another immunity augment xD ..just poisons your tank for some time and reduces your damage until u have that effect ..crazy right ? 

....(2)

idk .. stay here to know what is my (2)..augment 

                                                                                                                

More Augments? Ummm You are making Augments sound like buffing Twins.

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

I don't think Twins needs a buff.

Heat Immunity needs to be removed or reworked or else Vulcan will always much better than Twins.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

I will put this in the nicest way possible. MM is the standard battle. NOT PRO-Battles. 

Twins is one of the, if not the WORST turret you can play in MM. It has literally no use when you can play other turrets that does its job better. The only advantage Twins really has, is its constant high impact force. Literally, I'm having all my kills stolen, landing all my shots, still not killing the enemy, I question. Why am I even using this???

And then I remembered. I was persuaded to give Twins a shot. Played like 20 matches. Trash. Biggest mistake of the day.

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

Just now, Tanker-Arthur said:

I don't think Twins needs a buff.

Actually, the projectile speed is annoyingly slow.

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

Just now, yellowghetto said:

Literally, I'm having all my kills stolen, landing all my shots, still not killing the enemy, I question.

Same thing happens to me!

I actually recall that Twins was annoyingly strong 2 or 3 years ago.

But, it got a nerf in 2019 (I just learned this a month ago), and Vulcan with Heat Immunity and Smoky's Autocannon do the job way better today. :(

[E_polypterus 2,374]

7 hours ago, yellowghetto said:

Really? I found 3 in the same battle when I logged in today! :( 

would like to see a screenshot next time :p but anyway, there are exceptions ofc... so were they op in ur opinion?

[E_polypterus 2,374]

1 minute ago, krish123_super said:

p op op ...all use defenders to escape from splash self death 

most op combo and no one uses it ...defender + crusader + twins + heavy plasma + twins protection 50%..i tried in test server ..litarally all dead ..all just run away and fight with others ..not uses full in capture flag and assault or rugby ..mostly in jag and cp and mid-range tdm

 

8 hours ago, E_polypterus said:

I was talking related to PRO battles. You’d be hard pressed to find a Vulcan user without at least IB these days. 

 

[yellowghetto 3,206]

1 hour ago, E_polypterus said:

would like to see a screenshot next time :p but anyway, there are exceptions ofc... so were they op in ur opinion?

not OP, but way better than Twins. You have like no time to hide when they constantly just spray you down. THREE OF THEM

[E_polypterus 2,374]

4 hours ago, yellowghetto said:

not OP, but way better than Twins. You have like no time to hide when they constantly just spray you down. THREE OF THEM

What was the map?

[yellowghetto 3,206]

6 hours ago, E_polypterus said:

What was the map?

Polygon ASL.

Vulcan Titans just surrounding you, awful my guy.

[E_polypterus 2,374]

10 hours ago, yellowghetto said:

Polygon ASL.

My exact guess on which map, though not ASL in PRO, anyway, well a lot of Vulcans in one battle like that can be annoying, but that doesn’t prove that the turret alone is op. 

And yes, it is a bit odd to find three Vulcan users without a single augment in the same battle

[wolverine848 13,097]

22 hours ago, yellowghetto said:

not OP, but way better than Twins. You have like no time to hide when they constantly just spray you down. THREE OF THEM

You think you'd do better if you had 3 riccos or 3 autocannons doing that?

Any tank withers under the fire of 3 enemies.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

6 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

You think you'd do better if you had 3 riccos or 3 autocannons doing that?

Any tank withers under the fire of 3 enemies.

probably. Vulcan is more consistent.