update Critical damage

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

Just now, kydapoot said:

Hey guys! Looks like this point needs some clarification:

Since update #600 (and a few subsequent updates), Augments (no longer called alterations) are meant to be a buff to a turret or hull, not simply a shift in its parameters. Some do still have downsides, but the net effect when an augment is used properly is an overall increase in performance.

Oh. 

Thanks for the heads-up, I never knew until literally now..............

 

Spoiler

I still love Alterations more than Augments

 

Edited March 25, 2021 by Tanker-Arthur

[Frylock 1,617]

@kydapoot Hello one last thing I want to clarify. What will happen to the functions of drones such as crisis and booster? Also would all the other drones need stat changes?

Edited March 25, 2021 by MysticBlood

[cool12345 123]

Everybody is happy but Me and my Smoky  (No changes for Smoky.  So me and my Smoky are going to sit on a hill....and watch the sun go down  )

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

Just now, MysticBlood said:

@kydapoot Hello one last thing I want to clarify. What will happen to the functions of drones such as crisis and booster? Also would all the other drones need stat changes?

I believe Booster won't do critical hits, If I remember correctly.

[kydapoot 570]

6 minutes ago, sr2z said:

Well, I personaly do use augments, they were a cool addition to the game... but what if a person wants to play (for example) Thunder with it's standard parameters? How can he be competitive?

That's a good question! This is the purpose of the Adrenaline augment - it increases damage without changing any mechanics.

 

4 minutes ago, MysticBlood said:

@kydapoot Hello one last thing I want to clarify. What will happen to the functions of drones such as crisis and booster?

As far as I can tell from the announcement and patch notes, they're unaffected. They should still boost any type of damage that you deal while their effects are active, though it may be harder to predict when they'll be effective. (Booster on a critical shot sounds pretty scary, but you can't tell when that shot will be). 

I'll check on this again tomorrow when the update comes out and make a note on the wiki page about it once I've confirmed the info.

Edited March 25, 2021 by kydapoot

[BiBo 176]

Just now, cool12345 said:

Everybody is happy but Me and my Smoky  (No changes for Smoky.  So me and my Smoky are going to sit on a hill....and watch the sun go down  )

You're not the only one :'(

 

[cool12345 123]

It's like it's Christmas and everybody got presents but Me and Smoky.  Smoky is crying his eyes out sitting by the Christmas tree but nobody cares. It breaks my heart!  

[sr2z 37]

Just now, cool12345 said:

It's like it's Christmas and everybody got presents but Me and Smoky.  Smoky is crying his eyes out sitting by the Christmas tree but nobody cares. It breaks my heart!  

It's even worse... Imagine that all gamblers got presents, and all other players got like... nothing. But Christmas even took something from smoky... his uniqueness...

[BiBo 176]

6 minutes ago, cool12345 said:

It's like it's Christmas and everybody got presents but Me and Smoky.  Smoky is crying his eyes out sitting by the Christmas tree but nobody cares. It breaks my heart!  

I still don't understand why is this update even needed... And how they don't care at all about the players opinion. Around 98% of the players said that they simply hate the update, so why implement it in the game? 

Why would you destroy everything that was built through years of hard work? Just for milking more money out of players and buyers? 

Edited March 25, 2021 by BiBo

[sr2z 37]

2 minutes ago, BiBo said:

I still don't understand why is this update even needed... And how they don't care at all about the players opinion. Around 98% of the players said that they simply hate the update, so why implement it in the game? 

If it's NOT an April Joke... then one annoying song comes to my mind... 

Money money money... 

[BiBo 176]

3 minutes ago, sr2z said:

If it's NOT an April Joke... then one annoying song comes to my mind... 

Money money money... 

Yep

If they are going to add more updates like this in the future then I give it 3 more years of life but not more. People will get tired of them sooner or later 

[Frylock 1,617]

Welp Ima head to my acc and enjoy the last moments of the current way it is. just in case if its not a joke...

Edited March 25, 2021 by MysticBlood

[Mick 103]

Why is everyone complaining so much I am playing the update on the test server and it is not that dramatic so I never know why people are nagging like this while they do not even know how it works because of the critical damage is just the same almost as the current damage.

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

A new re-balance update, a new rank.

Legend 58.

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

8 hours ago, Marcus said:

Removes the random damage distribution from all turrets;

I like this. Dealing consistent damage remove the reliance of RNG. Exactly what I wanted. Still waiting to see Brutus buff and few other balance changes.

8 hours ago, Marcus said:

Adds critical damage to all turrets, just like Smoky, but with different damage multipliers for each turret..

Interesting, but I need to see this on the actual update, more than just on Testing. And yeah, kinda a RIP to Smoky :/

 

Edited March 25, 2021 by FrozenRailgun

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

This new update is great but we should get an HD skin.

[Cabos 212]

Just now, RIDDLER_8 said:

This new update is great but we should get an HD skin.

We need Viking HD ASAP

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

I know that. Its about time that we get a new HD skin for Viking.

[2shots2kills 2,366]

If anyone is interested.

I have tested extensively Smoky and Railgun with my buddy @JustBlackWolf today and from what I have seen:

 

Smoky seems to have the same exact crit base chance as it normally has. The patch notes mention an increase by upgrade up to 50% at MK7+, but this is either not implemented in the TS or is not working properly. 

Railgun has a true 50% crit chance mechanic. You can crit multiple times in a row. LCR is Okay, Scout is extremely broken, Round Stabilization is too good for only 96k cry (+33% flat dmg)

and Round Destabilization is full meme potential and it will destroy JUGG mode. It deals either 100dmg or something like 6-10k depending on upgrades and drones equipped.

Yes, there is no in-between. it will be useless in a real battle and it Jugg it will be insane with Viking Overdrive. 

Spoiler

 

Edited March 25, 2021 by 2shots2kills

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

Let's see......

1. Armor-Piercing Hammer
2. Armor-Piercing Ricochet
3. Armor-Piercing Magnum
4. Armor-Piercing Gauss
5. Armor-Piercing Shaft
6. Adrenaline for Firebird 
7. Adrenaline for Freeze
8. Adrenaline for Isida
9. Adrenaline for Hammer
10. Adrenaline for Twins
11. Adrenaline for Ricochet
12. Adrenaline for Smoky
13. Adrenaline for Striker
14. Adrenaline for Vulcan
15. Adrenaline for Thunder
16. Adrenaline for Railgun
17. Adrenaline for Magnum
18. Adrenaline for Gauss
19. Adrenaline for Shaft
20. All the Hull Augments

And some Augments that barely have any downsides:

1. Burning Railgun
2. Cryo Railgun
3. Railgun's Electromagnetic Accelerator "Scout"

I would've added "Death Herald Compulsator" in the list, but seeing as how I barely kill any enemies with it due to all the Railgun Modules and people stealing my kills or me being snipped off by Gausses and Shafts, and etc, the 10% extra warm-up is a pretty big downside for an Augment that doesn't get utilized very often.

 

I said turret augment so ignore hull augments.  We all know those are P2W.

You went out of your way to list 18 augments, which are really 2 different augments for each turret - they are the same thing.  And Adrenaline - yeah it does give a boost - a small one, and only under certain conditions.

The other ones listed Do have a negative, even if it's only +% on 'warmup".  And even those now only do so on "critical shots".

What you have listed is nothing like the augments of the poster I was replying to.

 

Edited March 25, 2021 by wolverine848

[Spy 14,687]

1 hour ago, RIDDLER_8 said:

@kydapoot

OK. I hope Magnum gets critical damage.

That would be deadly :x

[Spy 14,687]

13 minutes ago, RIDDLER_8 said:

This new update is great but we should get an HD skin.

I'd rather get a new skin for Wasp (especially LGC) 

[Frylock 1,617]

Here comes the Scout Booster abuse. I sense it coming with this update. 

Edited March 25, 2021 by MysticBlood

[wolverine848 13,097]

Questions...

What does "Removed default damage range." mean?

Rail - Added critical damage: 800 (Mk1) up to 1600 (Mk7+) with a fixed 50% chance;   Rail has a 50% chance for a critical?

How do Critical modules work?

How exactly does smoky Incendiary work?  If smoky mk7+ now has a 50% chance for critical, it does incendiary damage 50% of the time?

 

Mines do only 1500 damage now?  LOL.  they are useless.

This sounds too much like a joke.  But it aint April 1 yet...

Edited March 25, 2021 by wolverine848

[Frylock 1,617]

Just now, wolverine848 said:

Questions...

What does "Removed default damage range." mean?

Rail - Added critical damage: 800 (Mk1) up to 1600 (Mk7+) with a fixed 50% chance;   Rail has a 50% chance for a critical?

How do Critical modules work?

How exactly does smoky Incendiary work?  If smoky mk7+ now has a 50% chance for critical, it does incendiary damage 50% of the time?

That means that there wont be a range of damage for example rail is currently 800-1600 the damage will be 1200 without spread.

The modual will resist all critical damage by 40% against all turrets if maxed. meaning it will take longer to land critical hits. 

As for the last question I'm not entirely sure.