v-log Episode 295 of the V-LOG!

[Venerable 2,967]

XP/BP is going to be fun again! As far as I can tell, Hopper is going to be 1-shot... @Watermelon, party time?

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

35 minutes ago, Joeguy said:

In the meantime, my biggest question is this:  How can you equip a drone, yet have it not consume supplies?  I thought drones automatically chewed through batteries and their associated supplies whenever they were equipped.  Can anyone shed some light on this coming change?   ...maybe use Brutus as an example drone since it is available at low ranks and doesn't cost an arm an a leg.

"Supply power" refers to how great a boost in damage, protection, or speed DD, DA, or SB offer, respectively.

In their current form, some drones can increase supply power. A fully upgraded Defender, for example, increases DA power by an additional 100% - that is, it doubles the amount of protection double armour offers. But not all drones increase supply power, nor do all drones consume supplies.

Currently, all drones passively increase the HP and damage of a tank by 5%. The only exception is Brutus, which increases them by 10%. The plan is to do away with this passive buff, reduce the power of supplies by default, and have drones passively increase supply power to the levels they are at now.

For example, without any other modifiers, DD will increase damage by 1.5x and not by 2x as it does now. Similarly, DA might decrease incoming damage by only 25% instead of 50%. But with a fully upgraded drone, DD will deal, say, 1.75x damage, and DA will decrease damage by 38%.

A fully upgraded Brutus would allow for 2x damage with DD and 50% protection with DA, and will not consume batteries. Other drones will consume batteries, though.

Edited April 17, 2021 by ThirdOnion

[antillis 138]

52 minutes ago, Joeguy said:

The supply/drone explanation is baffling and extremely vague.   What?  And Huh? 

Admin have always been extemely ambiguous (ie:- they never explain anything clearly and any explanation given, could and usually does have several interpretations) when it comes to explaining any new update.

And i think you will be right, it will be very toxic and anything of worth will of course, ONLY be available through a credit card.

I stopped playing my account for a very good reason, and the frustration and futillity of TRYING to do well in any battle is now not a problem.

They have RUINED a very good concept in this game with all the fancy OTT, P2W add ons they have brought out.

Very sad they have taken this route with a great game. They have proven they are no different than any other company in regards to doing right by the players, (customers) who make the game what it is and whom without there would be, NO GAME.    

Edited April 17, 2021 by antillis
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[antillis 138]

20 minutes ago, ThirdOnion said:

"Supply power" refers to how great a boost in damage, protection, or speed DD, DA, or SB offer, respectively.

In their current form, some drones can increase supply power. A fully upgraded Defender, for example, increases DA power by an additional 100% - that is, it doubles the amount of protection double armour offers. But not all drones increase supply power, nor do all drones consume supplies.

Currently, all drones passively increase the HP and damage of a tank by 5%. The only exception is Brutus, which increases them by 10%. The plan is to do away with this passive buff, reduce the power of supplies by default, and have drones passively increase supply power to the levels they are at now.

For example, without any other modifiers, DD will increase damage by 1.5x and not by 2x as it does now. Similarly, DA might decrease incoming damage by only 25% instead of 50%. But with a fully upgraded drone, DD will deal, say, 1.75x damage, and DA will decrease damage by 38%.

A fully upgraded Brutus would allow for 2x damage with DD and 50% protection with DA, and will not consume batteries. Other drones will consume batteries, though.

So it kind of forces players to acquire drones.

What if (and it's a very small if) players can't afford to equip a drone. Think we all no the answer to that one. I think a credit card might possibly be the solution.

My reasons for not playing anymore becomes more vindicated with each new update admin bring out. They really have no shame, or morals it seems.     

Edited April 17, 2021 by antillis

[SporkZilla 1,775]

1 hour ago, antillis said:

What if (and it's a very small if) players can't afford to equip a drone

I've earned nearly 400,000 crystals from Shard containers since they were introduced (on one account, haven't done the math for the others), which is enough to buy and fully upgrade a Brutus drone with some discounts from sales

So if (assuming @ThirdOnion is correct) you need to do that to un-nerf supplies (from the V-LOG, "with upgrading a drone, the passive bonus you get from it will also increase, reaching the maximum double boost that you get from the supply now"), then a lot of players will have a Brutus as part of their default combo and nothing will have really changed as far as the strength / META of supplies is concerned

It's more of a nerf for the other drones that cost more to upgrade, so someone using Saboteur will need to have it fully upgraded if they don't want their other supplies to be weakened by their choice of a Mines drone (assuming Mines are unaffected by the update)

And now I'll have to fully upgrade my Engineers, and people using Drones where upgrades aren't really worth it (like Trickster) will have to do the same

What really bugs me is that I think TO could get a more stable / long-term income by offering usability improvements for money or TK, like queuing several MUs or automatically claiming Shard containers or the free crystals from the shop so that players only have to log in when they want to play instead of just for housekeeping, but they keep changing the game several times a year instead

Edited April 17, 2021 by SporkZilla

[antillis 138]

2 hours ago, SporkZilla said:

but they keep changing the game several times a year instead

And always for the worse it seems.

[alkyng 3,080]

Guys I feel like Striker is ugly from its natural because it has a very small shape that have not left any space for designing and creativity.. I think increasing the shape size by 32.381% seems good

[wolverine848 13,097]

6 hours ago, ThirdOnion said:

"Supply power" refers to how great a boost in damage, protection, or speed DD, DA, or SB offer, respectively.

In their current form, some drones can increase supply power. A fully upgraded Defender, for example, increases DA power by an additional 100% - that is, it doubles the amount of protection double armour offers. But not all drones increase supply power, nor do all drones consume supplies.

Currently, all drones passively increase the HP and damage of a tank by 5%. The only exception is Brutus, which increases them by 10%. The plan is to do away with this passive buff, reduce the power of supplies by default, and have drones passively increase supply power to the levels they are at now.

For example, without any other modifiers, DD will increase damage by 1.5x and not by 2x as it does now. Similarly, DA might decrease incoming damage by only 25% instead of 50%. But with a fully upgraded drone, DD will deal, say, 1.75x damage, and DA will decrease damage by 38%.

A fully upgraded Brutus would allow for 2x damage with DD and 50% protection with DA, and will not consume batteries. Other drones will consume batteries, though.

1) So anyone without an upgraded drone is at a disadvantage for something as simple as supplies

2) What happens with Booster and Defender and Crisis?

[Watermelon 86]

7 hours ago, Venerable said:

XP/BP is going to be fun again! As far as I can tell, Hopper is going to be 1-shot... @Watermelon, party time?

Pog

[Person_Random 4,991]

9 hours ago, Joeguy said:

Wow, I really wish they would have an English writer (not Grammerly) script these V-Logs.  The supply/drone explanation is baffling and extremely vague.   What?  And Huh? 

I guess that too soon another typically toxic Tanki update will show us what the new supply/drone meta will actually be.

Proofreader here. Let's first get this out of the way: I am better than Grammarly as I have to correct its puny and worthless 'grammar error alerts' to make it sound correct. 

On that topic though, the text is pretty much what we are given, and sometimes the information is truly not very easy to explain or decipher. I recall one time there was this Crusader tip to catch Gold Boxes, but the text said to use the Overdrive with a friend to catch golds. When asked to change it, it was supposed to be left as is, even though it seemed quite confusing. This may not be as extreme of a case, but the text can definitely have confusing and incomprehensible parts leaving most everyone confused. Whenever I work on the V-LOG, I'll make sure to get the best clarification possible so that viewers aren't left scratching their heads. 

Thanks for your input

[Knafo 790]

On 4/16/2021 at 11:34 AM, Marcus said:

Made with by Tanki and 

Can anyone explain to me what this heart (❤) means once and for all ???

[alkyng 3,080]

39 minutes ago, Knafo said:

Can anyone explain to me what this heart (❤) means once and for all ???

That means Marcus love us

Thank you Marcus

Edited April 17, 2021 by asem.harbi

[Poppy 422]

50 minutes ago, Person_Random said:

Proofreader here. Let's first get this out of the way: I am better than Grammarly as I have to correct its puny and worthless 'grammar error alerts' to make it sound correct. 

On that topic though, the text is pretty much what we are given, and sometimes the information is truly not very easy to explain or decipher. I recall one time there was this Crusader tip to catch Gold Boxes, but the text said to use the Overdrive with a friend to catch golds. When asked to change it, it was supposed to be left as is, even though it seemed quite confusing. This may not be as extreme of a case, but the text can definitely have confusing and incomprehensible parts leaving most everyone confused. Whenever I work on the V-LOG, I'll make sure to get the best clarification possible so that viewers aren't left scratching their heads. 

Thanks for your input

I think that to proofread tanki v-logs properly you must speak russian too, right?

If not, exactly what text are you given? The russian script as it is or auto translated?

[Person_Random 4,991]

1 hour ago, beachhouse said:

I think that to proofread tanki v-logs properly you must speak russian too, right?

If not, exactly what text are you given? The russian script as it is or auto translated?

RU-EN Translators do the work of translating the original RU script to English.

[Spy 14,687]

2 hours ago, Knafo said:

Can anyone explain to me what this heart (❤) means once and for all ???

Made with love by tanki and content helpers (proofreaders and translators) 

[Akame 4,578]

5 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

1) So anyone without an upgraded drone is at a disadvantage for something as simple as supplies

2) What happens with Booster and Defender and Crisis?

1) Yes, thought it seems Brutus will be able to be used without batteries. Maybe they can introduce a weekend where Brutus upgrade costs are slashed a lil bit or whatnot, idk.

2) I personally would hope they get reduced bonuses accordingly, otherwise the difference can be impairing.

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

12 hours ago, antillis said:

So it kind of forces players to acquire drones.

What if (and it's a very small if) players can't afford to equip a drone. Think we all no the answer to that one. I think a credit card might possibly be the solution.

At high-ranks it's hard to find a player who doesn't use a drone. After years of batteries being available through missions and increased crystals gains I wouldn't really consider drones any more P2W than turrets or hulls.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Just now, ThirdOnion said:

At high-ranks it's hard to find a player who doesn't use a drone. After years of batteries being available through missions and increased crystals gains I wouldn't really consider drones any more P2W than turrets or hulls.

Well, mid-ranks might not have them , or at least not upgraded much.  But those same mid-ranks DO play against Legends these days with the ridiculous rank-spreads.  And it takes a long time to upgrade drones - so if they don't have them now, won't be reaping benefit from them for a long time.

I still want to know exactly how drones like Defender, Booster & Crisis will work.  People have invested (crystals & time) in them, now they might change?

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

36 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Well, mid-ranks might not have them , or at least not upgraded much.  But those same mid-ranks DO play against Legends these days with the ridiculous rank-spreads.  And it takes a long time to upgrade drones - so if they don't have them now, won't be reaping benefit from them for a long time.

This is why I consider drones to be no more P2W than turrets and hulls. Buyers can obtain Mk7+ at Lieutenant Colonel. Similarly buyers can obtain fully-upgraded drones early on.

Although, it's possible that drone upgrades may be split into Mks like turrets and hulls. That would reduce at least some of the unfairness and seems like a logical thing to do given that drones will become more than just end-game crystals sinks.

37 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

I still want to know exactly how drones like Defender, Booster & Crisis will work.  People have invested (crystals & time) in them, now they might change?

My guess is that Crisis will remain unchanged.

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

Tesla looks very cool indeed, super-interesting mechanics.

However, I hate to be negative about new changes once again - but this new suggested change to supplies, and most importantly linking them to drones - is one of the worst proposed changes I've heard.

I hate the way that Tanki always makes changes that bring further imbalance to the game, and between free-to-play and low-end buyers vs big-buyers, but yet always dresses it up as if they are doing things that players wanted  - just as they are doing here saying "so many of you are asking for supplies to be nerfed", etc. First of all, yes some players wanted supplies to be nerfed, but NO-ONE ASKED FOR SUPPLY POWER TO BE LINKED TO DRONE UPGRADE LEVEL. Nerfing supplies, and linking them to drone upgrade level, are two TOTALLY different things. If you want to make supplies weaker at low ranks, fine - do that. Make supplies weaker or stronger depending on the average rank in battle, But linking them to drones is an awful idea - who are the players with highly upgraded drones in low ranks? Buyers. Who are the players who have a 20/20 earlier at higher ranks? Buyers. Who has a wider selection of 20/20 drones? Buyers. So who will this change, which is apparently to "give in to player feedback" going to advantage? That is right - buyers, and I refuse to believe the developers, who are not stupid - are naive about this.

Second of all, supplies are not anywhere near one of the major problems in the game these days - only a few low ranked players whine about them, and major balance changes should not be made on the basis of inexperienced players who are not playing the game correctly. With the shards update, the changes to missions with stars and reduced weekly missions requirements, everyone is now swimming in supplies, and no-one ever runs out of supplies even at low ranks - aside from repair kits and batteries. I have several accounts at low rank, and I never have a problem running out of supplies any more - if low ranked players need to understand how to manage their accounts better, then fine - make them some further guide videos to explain. Or nerf supplies for only lower ranked battles (for instance any battle with crystal boxes) and keep them the same for higher ranked battles.

What players are really complaining about in much greater number - is the power of ultra container augments such as EMP Gauss, Blunderbuss, the power of Crisis combined with Hopper, Hoppers overdrive in capture modes, and unfixed game-breaking bugs such as the Magnum no damage bug, and Hammer adaptive reload bug. But clearly, the developers have selective hearing - and they only mention such things so they can attempt to excuse further pay-to-win updates.

At the minute I use a wide range of drones, some of which have a low level of microupgrades - but after this change you will be forced to use only one drone and max it out, which is boring. That is of course, if you even have a maxed out drone, which many players will not have until they are several ranks into Legend. But they will be going up against players with 20/20 drones long before then.

Right now many drones are good with low microupgrades, such as Trickster/Engineer/Mechanic - after this change you will have to have one 20/20 drone, and using any other low MU drone will suck, so gameplay will be much more dull for anyone who isn't a buyer with multiple 20/20 drones (or a high ranking Legend who has had time/crystals to MU several drones).

I really hope this update won't go through, as this will be yet another nail in the coffin for balance in Tanki, and it will make gameplay much more dull. Nerf supplies for low ranks if you want, but don't link their power to drones.

Edited April 20, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

Drones are only going to change for low ranks. The effect of supplies will become weaker at low ranks, like the repair kit but will remain normal for high ranks. This was done to bring balance at low ranks.

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

@At_Shin

I am glad that this is for low ranks only because it would be a terrible update for high ranks. Since I am in the Legend ranks, I do not care about the change to supplies and drones, but I remain vigilant and aware of it.

By the way, I am glad that the Tesla turret will be released soon. Please make sure that developers release this new turret with both an HD and XT skin, as well as augments and shot color effects.

@TWICE

Well done for winning question of the week. I lost this time. Thanks for posting the screenshot. Always post screenshots if you win.

Edited April 19, 2021 by Ironmantonystark
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[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

Going back to V-Log 294, when will the fourth slot protection module become available for purchase in the garage?

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

Tesla's electric shock beams reminds me of the PlayStation 1 game called Vigilante 8, I used to play when I was a kid. The character is called "Slick Clyde". Read link below:

Project V8

Tanki Online's upcoming Tesla turret is a perfect representation of Slick Clyde's lightning electric shock power up as seen in action on the following video link:

Vigilante 8 Playthrough (Actual N64 Capture) - Slick Clyde Quests - YouTube

Watch Slick Clyde as he fires his antenna's lightning bolts.

[destroyer21873 28]

They should probably have a limit tho to how many plasma balls can be fires because lots of people would spam that tho