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I was playing on the test server and saw a similarity between the two. I have to say Camper Drone is OP.

If you are at full health, all your Supplies are reloaded in 5 seconds INCLUDING Repair Kits and Mines, while consuming 1 standard Supply of its type. If you can constantly repair every 5 seconds, you can just drug non stop, and have Supplies on the go! I don't think people know about this because of how stupid the Camper Drone looks.

 

Now Hyperion, it can always have the Boosted Armor Boosted Damage, and Speed Boost active, yet it consumes 3 Supplies of ALL of the standard 5 types. Why is that?

 

Either have a reload nerf for Camper Drone, or Buff Hyperion to be able to use Repair Kits and Mines sooner than the standard. Since it CONSUMES 3! 

 

Normal Supply cooldown is 30 seconds, with a max Hyperion, it gets rid of those. But it doesn't work for Repair Kits or Mines. How about have Hyperion cut cooldowns for the Repair Kit and Mines down to 15 or even 10 seconds close to the Camper Drone? Or just get rid of how it consumes an extra 2 for Supplies it doesn't affect? Otherwise, I feel like upgrading Hyperion is a complete waste. Not worth a Legend ranked Drone.

Edit: I also wanted to add than Hyperion just eliminates cooldowns. No buffs to Supplies. Does it really need to consume 3?

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On 5/29/2021 at 9:27 AM, yellowghetto said:

I was playing on the test server and saw a similarity between the two. I have to say Camper Drone is OP.

If you are at full health, all your Supplies are reloaded in 5 seconds INCLUDING Repair Kits and Mines, while consuming 1 standard Supply of its type. If you can constantly repair every 5 seconds, you can just drug non stop, and have Supplies on the go! I don't think people know about this because of how stupid the Camper Drone looks.

 

Now Hyperion, it can always have the Boosted Armor Boosted Damage, and Speed Boost active, yet it consumes 3 Supplies of ALL of the standard 5 types. Why is that?

 

Either have a reload nerf for Camper Drone, or Buff Hyperion to be able to use Repair Kits and Mines sooner than the standard. Since it CONSUMES 3! 

 

Normal Supply cooldown is 30 seconds, with a max Hyperion, it gets rid of those. But it doesn't work for Repair Kits or Mines. How about have Hyperion cut cooldowns for the Repair Kit and Mines down to 15 or even 10 seconds close to the Camper Drone? Or just get rid of how it consumes an extra 2 for Supplies it doesn't affect? Otherwise, I feel like upgrading Hyperion is a complete waste. Not worth a Legend ranked Drone.

Edit: I also wanted to add than Hyperion just eliminates cooldowns. No buffs to Supplies. Does it really need to consume 3?

Thank God someone said something about the camper drone. The drone is so annoying on how often tanks repair every 5 seconds and a heavy camper can just spam supplies. And yes the cool downs are very stupid with this drone. People camping like the leech they are with the drone is just a nuisance... oh well they did call the drone "camper" after all.

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Let's put things straight by saying that the test-servers do not have the same gameplay dynamics as the regular game. One's experience on the test-servers does not determine their actual success in the regular servers. One is entering the test-servers to experiment with different combination or figure out certain mechanics, but not for gameplay; in the actual game the regular player focuses on the battle. 

As a Camper-user, you will always need to be at absolute maxed HP in order for your drone to work. That may sound like an acceptable requirement, but putting this into practice is incredibly hard as preventing any HP-loss is almost an undoable task. Splash-turrets play a huge part in today's meta, many battles are filled with Magnums, Strikers and Thunders which can bite away even a minuscule part of your health-bar. No matter what battle you enter or what gamemode you are playing, there will always be enemies using splash turrets attacking your base from distances. Other troublemakers are turrets that can deal damage over large distances, turrets with bouncing projectiles, status effects and aggressive attackers. To add to this list, it is infuriating that one single projectile from Vulcan from far is sufficient enough to completely shut down your entire drone. 
Matchmaking mostly consists of medium-scaled maps, making camping an unpreferable playstyle. For defense, drones such as Defender, Miner and Saboteur offer greater success. Large maps are more suitable for camping, in that case the Camper drone would only offer the user some advantages but these are not gamebreaking since boosted armor can counter boosted damage and vice versa - not to say that their supply consumption heavily increases during activation... this for only camping...
Lastly, using Camper offers a playstyle where you will always need to be careful of your surroundings and your enemies' weapons. It will make the game revolve only around your tank and drone, and not the actual battle. This is something I noticed that took away most fun out of battles. 

I bought the drone after testing on test servers as I was convinced that it was good, but it turned out not to perform too great. It is a unique and underrated drone and it could be interesting to use, I'll admit that. Though it is neither my best nor worst purchase, it is definitely not useless and it does have its niches. Also, you do not need to actually camp when using Camper, I have seen quite some people using it for mid-fielding and even attacking, however the efficiency of the drone will severely decrease doing so. 

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On 5/29/2021 at 12:27 PM, yellowghetto said:

I was playing on the test server and saw a similarity between the two. I have to say Camper Drone is OP.

Plot Twist: Camper stops working if you lose 1 health point.

Unless they buffed it somehow and I missed that.

 

 

But yes, Hyperion should have it's supply usage reduced. I would like the same for all the drones to be honest.

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If anything needs to be done; it's only a supply use reduction on hyperion;
It should not use extra supplies for repairs and mines, the rest can stay at using 3 supplies, or maybe down to 2 supplies to make it a bit more balanced.

Since meta drones i.e Booster/Defender only use 2 additional supplies per round, but a hyperion will use at least 6 extra in total for no other benefit.

Camper is fine as it is currently thought. Maybe the condition for 'full hp' could be reduced to 90% or higher to let it be small damage friendly.

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I couldn't give my opinion as I haven't test any of them & my knowledge in drones is just a little.

But I think Camper is just sux compared to Hyperion. For what I need a full supplies in camping? Booster is better!! Hyperion is a great when you try to capture the flag, you mostly end up without any supply in halfway, and sometimes before reaching enemy base. But Hyperion give you a full time of supplies.

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Just now, At_Shin said:

 

in addition of that camper i support drone who dosen't share it's effect not get BP for it (trickster is another story) so it would better if it make it share it's effect and maybe nerf it's states

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2 minutes ago, fghjkl54 said:

in addition of that camper i support drone who dosen't share it's effect not get BP for it (trickster is another story) so it would better if it make it share it's effect and maybe nerf it's states

It is true that there is little consistency between the support drones. Two out of five drones provide advantages solely to the user, being Camper and from some weeks ago Trickster as well. Support can be applied through several functions and mechanics, but removing the collective aspect of them would make them self-oriented rather than team-oriented

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17 hours ago, TheCongoSpider said:

With Magnum being ubiquitous, Camper is hardly OP. 

I don't see as many Magnums as Shafts and Gausses.

 

14 hours ago, asem.harbi said:

I couldn't give my opinion as I haven't test any of them & my knowledge in drones is just a little.

But I think Camper is just sux compared to Hyperion. For what I need a full supplies in camping? Booster is better!! Hyperion is a great when you try to capture the flag, you mostly end up without any supply in halfway, and sometimes before reaching enemy base. But Hyperion give you a full time of supplies.

In case you didn't know Hyperion is basically useless until 100% maxed. As the cooldown elimination is at 0 when you first purchase it.

 

For how Camper works, the moment you reach full HP at any given time, your Supplies are immediately down to a 5 second cooldown. It is crazy. Whenever the lay 1000 Mines Special Mission comes, I recommend using this Drone. Provided you have it maxed of course.

 

I still would like to see Hyperion get Repair Kit and Mine cooldown buffs to make it closer as it was advertised on the V-LOG. But if that proves too strong, just delete the addition 2 Repair Kits and Mines used. It makes no sense.

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19 hours ago, yellowghetto said:

I don't see as many Magnums as Shafts and Gausses.

Hm, if that is the case, I would expect to see armies of Eagles everywhere.

Gausses are common yes.

Getting OHKO'ed by Shaft NGL, is better than getting clapped by the other 3.

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1 minute ago, FrozenRailgun said:

Hm, if that is the case, I would expect to see armies of Eagles everywhere.

Gausses are common yes.

What do you mean? A lot of people wear eagle when it comes to the stupid maps like Lost Temple, Highways, Brest, and maybe even Massacre! Which by the way, are coincidentally the worst maps in the MMS.

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4 minutes ago, yellowghetto said:

A lot of dudes spams Eagle when it comes to the stupid maps like Lost Temple, Highways, Brest, and maybe even Massacre!

You forgot Stadium, also a Shaft-fest zone. 

4 minutes ago, yellowghetto said:

Which by the way, are coincidentally the worst maps in the MMS.

Because they favor one particular turret the most? No, I am not disagreeing, just want to know your opinion.

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