Freezing effect's acceleration debuff

[The_Resistance 135]

Is there some info about it?

Like my tank is fully unfreezed, but still reach the top speed way more slower than under normal conditions. 

From my perspective it looks like Freezing still works but without any indication.

[Sabry 1,072]

Basically, a freeze user did shoot you, which did freeze you, which gave you it's effects, and after this effect disappear, your speed will progressively increase until you get the normal tank speed, but it is normal you're slower than the usual speed even after the effect disappears. Unlike fire, Freeze gives you effect which makes your tank slower, if right after the freeze status effect was removed from your tank you could get your usual speed,  then it would actually be strange regarding it's physics since freeze effect is making you being slower.

 

I hope it was clear . If you have anything else to ask me regarding this subject, feel free to !

 

Have a great day

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

4 hours ago, Sabry.Superman said:

Basically, a freeze user did shoot you, which did freeze you, which gave you it's effects, and after this effect disappear, your speed will progressively increase until you get the normal tank speed, but it is normal you're slower than the usual speed even after the effect disappears. Unlike fire, Freeze gives you effect which makes your tank slower, if right after the freeze status effect was removed from your tank you could get your usual speed,  then it would actually be strange regarding it's physics since freeze effect is making you being slower.

 

I hope it was clear . If you have anything else to ask me regarding this subject, feel free to !

 

Have a great day

Having some actual numbers would be nice. 

[kydapoot 570]

I'll request the data on this and post what I find out on the wiki page for freezing. I've also noticed the post-freeze sluggishness in acceleration - I think you're onto something here, and I agree it would be nice to have some numbers and a good explanation.

[Sabry 1,072]

22 hours ago, TheCongoSpider said:

Having some actual numbers would be nice. 

I perfectly understand, I will let you know when it will be on the wiki, if this is added 

[Tokamak 1,021]

On 6/14/2021 at 10:53 AM, The_Resistance said:

Is there some info about it?

Like my tank is fully unfreezed, but still reach the top speed way more slower than under normal conditions. 

From my perspective it looks like Freezing still works but without any indication.

The minimum temperature of a tank can be achieved is -1.0, regardless of the tank modification level.

Maximum effect is 4 seconds which is when temperature of your tank reached -1. From there your tank warms up at a speed of + 0.25 / sec, and reach 0 (neutral temperature) in 4 seconds.

The speed of the turret rotation and speed of the tank at -1 is at the level of 10% of the original, and it follows a linear rate in proportion to the temperature up to 100% when reaching neutral temperature. The temperature is calculated every tick (one tick is 0.25s).

Attack	Effect and duration
Freeze	The freezing speed is -0.6 / sec (-0.15 per 0.25s) regardless of the tank modification level. Taking into account the independent thawing of a tank at a speed of + 0.25 / sec, a temperature value of -1.0 is reached after 2.5 seconds.
	Smoky any modification with the augment "Cyro Rounds" can instantly lower the temperature of the target to -1. After that, the target is defrosted for 4 seconds, gradually restoring the speed of the gun and the body from 10% to 100%.
Crusader	The overdrive of Knight freezes an opponent in that he survived the downed icicles. Freeze effect is -2 (-200%). An opponent who was previously fully heated (+1) would be fully frozen (-1).
Dictator	The overdrive of Dictator spontaneously lowers the temperature of enemies within the range to -1.0. An opponent who was previously at a neutral temperature ("0") will be completely frozen. A previously fully heated opponent (+1), on the other hand, has a neutral temperature afterwards.
	A variant of the large caliber Railgun* but with cryo rounds. Critical hits can instantly lower the temperature of the target to -1 (-100%).

[kydapoot 570]

@Tokamak That's good info, but I believe OP was asking about what happens after you're thawed but still moving slowly.

[Tokamak 1,021]

@kydapoot if  temperature was -1 (tank fully white and fully immobile (10% mobility left)), after 4 long seconds temperature should have rose up to 0, the white color should be gone and of course  the tank and turret  should be back to normal speed (100% mobility). If not then something went wrong, either lag, or any of the random evergoing tanki bugs... unless he did not see an ennemie still freezing him. 

After completely thawing the tank should behave normally, there is no hidden coding that should prevent this mechanics to work otherwise. If this is lag related, refresh browser and check game ping. If this not the case, well someone found another bug (lucky tanker), record and report in the Bugs and Glitches Reports forum topic, and don't expect any reward (unlucky tanker).

 

 

time	% mobility	temperature
0	10	-1
0.25	15.6
0.5	21.2
0.75	26.8
1	32.4	-0.75
1.25	38
1.5	43.6
1.75	49.2
2	54.8	-0.5
2.25	60.4
2.5	66
2.75	71.6
3	77.2	-0.25
3.25	82.8
3.5	88.4
3.75	94
4	100	0

Edited June 24, 2021 by Tokamak

[The_Voltage 178]

3 hours ago, Tokamak said:

@kydapoot if  temperature was -1 (tank fully white and fully immobile (10% mobility left)), after 4 long seconds temperature should have rose up to 0, the white color should be gone and of course  the tank and turret  should be back to normal speed (100% mobility). If not then something went wrong, either lag, or any of the random evergoing tanki bugs... unless he did not see an ennemie still freezing him.

I understand how Freezing effect works. This is why aftermath of it gets me confused)

[Spy 14,694]

We have requested information from the devs.

[Helios 727]

This is so true, this also happened to me when a dictator OD froze me. Even after the effect my speed felt decreased for like 3-4 seconds after the freeze effect was gone.

[Poppy 422]

My guess is that even though the freeze effect is not active, the temperature is still in the side that makes you slow. 

[Tokamak 1,021]

 

a month later still no answer - maybe we should let it go

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[The_Voltage 178]

30 minutes ago, Tokamak said:

 

a month later still no answer - maybe we should let it go

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Like with AP Hammer and its -20%?)

[kydapoot 570]

On 7/22/2021 at 10:12 AM, Tokamak said:

a month later still no answer - maybe we should let it go

Yep, not looking like its likely to get an answer from the devs.

 

On 7/22/2021 at 10:43 AM, The_Voltage said:

Like with AP Hammer and its -20%?)

What do you mean by this? AP Hammer does indeed have a 20% decrease in clip reload, as stated on the wiki.

[The_Resistance 135]

6 hours ago, kydapoot said:

What do you mean by this? AP Hammer does indeed have a 20% decrease in clip reload, as stated on the wiki.

But pachnote with Hammer's clip reloas says that it was removed. And there is no pachnote after that about its returns.

Straaange ÷/

[kydapoot 570]

22 hours ago, The_Resistance said:

But pachnote with Hammer's clip reloas says that it was removed. And there is no pachnote after that about its returns.

Straaange ÷/

Which number is the note? I don't remember seeing it.

[The_Resistance 135]

21 minutes ago, kydapoot said:

Which number is the note? I don't remember seeing it.

 

[kydapoot 570]

We covered that one a long time ago; there have been some unannounced changes since then as well as some announced ones.

What's on the wiki right now is the current information, since Stratosphere was able to look up the stats.

[Tokamak 1,021]

lol -  Patch Update #656 - Released 30th July 2021

• Changed the «Cold» status effect:

  • Minimum hull speed is increased from 10% to 70%;

  • Minimum turret rotation speed is decreased from 80% to 10%;

  • Time needed for the status effect to disappear is increased from 4 sec to 10 sec.

So somehow changed were made (or partially tested) in the game before they actually told us. Naughty devs 

So it was a not a bug and not a new mechanics but a modification of parameters. Thawing is now +0.1 /sec instead of +0.25 /sec.

Edited July 30, 2021 by Tokamak

[kydapoot 570]

That patch didn't release until just yesterday, so the weird extra slowdown wasn't part of it - just some odd behavior that we now don't have to deal with.

[Akame 4,578]

Just to add; I have always felt an initial slow acceleration post thawing, especially noticeable with mammy crisis, I had to switch modes to get rid of the 'slowness' that I had felt. Personally didn't feel as annoying, but I have always felt a reduction in acceleration after the freeze status effect had ended. Was unsure if this was something to do with the programming or some not well explained stuff, because being honest, sometimes a lot of stuff isn't explained properly. 

[Spy 14,694]

@The_Resistance 

I did not forget to ask for information, but for some reason I didn't receive it. Do you want me to ask again or shall I close the topic?

[yellowghetto 3,206]

I've noticed this for a long time, but didn't mind it because I always thought the Freeze Status Effect was pretty underwhelming.

[Spy 14,694]

@The_Resistance 

Please send me a Forum PM in case you still want me to ask about this subject again.

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