event eSports Tanki Fund. TankiSport 2021 Season IV

[LONDON.ENGLAND 302]

Across my accounts. I got 2 silver bundles and 3 bronze. Let’s goooooo

Edited December 8, 2021 by LONDON.ENGLAND

[fghjkl54 1,517]

Just now, DestrotankAI9 said:

I wouldn't normally advise getting coinboxes (as they have a much higher chance for you to lose all your tankoins than gain any, and also because they are basically pure gambling which is a dangerous thing to get into), however in this very rare situation I might consider them, if I didn't have enough tankoins to reach the 1000 any other way.

i agree in this part i bought them and suddenly got back what i payed (153 tks) it was a bad decision 

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

26 minutes ago, fghjkl54 said:

i agree in this part i bought them and suddenly got back what i payed (153 tks) it was a bad decision 

If you bought 10 for 150 and got back 150 you did OK then though :P ? Or did you spend more? You would often pay 150 and get back like 15, lol, so for coinboxes that is actually better than average. And you at least got some supplies and crystals with that I hope too xD

Edited December 7, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[emrakul 7,801]

1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

Why don't you post a screen-shot of my original post to you?  The one with the emoti...

You mean this one? I don't remember all replies people sent to me earlier and I'm not going to check them just to be sure I don't miss something :P

It doesn't change anything on my reply tho, what I said is still objectively correct. Just like 1k tk for 15 UC isn't subjectively good for you.

[fghjkl54 1,517]

Just now, DestrotankAI9 said:

 

tbh i payed only one bundle because i missed them NGL  i expected the same as you said but got 100tks since then i refrained from buying it!

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

13 minutes ago, fghjkl54 said:

tbh i payed only one bundle because i missed them NGL  i expected the same as you said but got 100tks since then i refrained from buying it!

Good idea :P Coinboxes usually lose tks. But yes if you spent 150 and got 153 back, you are "lucky" compared to usual from coinboxes lol. And you gained 3 tankoins! Well done 

Edited December 7, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[Frylock 1,617]

To be honest this is the best giveaway event to happen. Honestly I might spend a bit to contribute.  I just want the skin containers and the containers. But what the heck, Ill contribute to the tanki fund as well. :D

Edited December 7, 2021 by MysticBlood

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

11 minutes ago, MysticBlood said:

To be honest this is the best giveaway event to happen. Honestly I might spend a bit to contribute.  I just want the skin containers and the containers. But what the heck, Ill contribute to the tanki fund as well. :D

Well that's very generous of you :P I have done my part for the cause as a free player, putting in tankoins on 3 accounts lol. Totally unselfish, not getting anything out of it for myself except the fourth module, and maybe Armadillo/Crisis/Skins/Ultras and 7000+ tankoins on each 

Edited December 7, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[Sgg1996 1]

Thanks to the tanki's new approach to giveaway anything exotic, I decided to stop tanki online after several years of playing.

I got crisis and paladin xt from the last event and realized that there's an event that allows ALL its participants to get crisis and armadillo module.

This is almost terrible for a buyer who has spent hundreds of dollars on ultra containers and bundles.

 

I ask myself what if I buy something and it appears in a giveaway sometime tomorrow? Not worth buying anymore.

Gambling is OVER.

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

18 minutes ago, Sgg1996 said:

Thanks to the tanki's new approach to giveaway anything exotic, I decided to stop tanki online after several years of playing.

I got crisis and paladin xt from the last event and realized that there's an event that allows ALL its participants to get crisis and armadillo module.

This is almost terrible for a buyer who has spent hundreds of dollars on ultra containers and bundles.

 

I ask myself what if I buy something and it appears in a giveaway sometime tomorrow? Not worth buying anymore.

Gambling is OVER.

It's far from "guaranteed" that Crisis and Armadillo will be given to everyone, as the fund has to reach 15 million for that which is unlikely. Besides as I already explained, Crisis is a buyer/helper/eSports only drone due to its supply consumption, which can't be maintained by a free player - so it doesn't matter if everyone got Crisis for free, not everyone will be able to use it.

Now besides this, not "everyone" will be able to even afford the Bronze bundle to participate, as if you were a free player you had to have 1000 tankoins for that - which not everyone has. And free players or light buyers can get Crisis/Armadillo from Ultra Containers anyway if they are lucky (I have Crisis on 2 accounts and Armadillo on one as a free player). So now that free players and light buyers have a one-off better chance to get something, I don't really get why you are annoyed.

 

Pay-to-win (bought items that give an actual increase in power over other players) is bad for the game anyway, and there will probably come many new updates in the future which favour buyers - and by the way I don't think that's a good thing either. It would be best if buying gives cosmetic things only, if that were possible. Just look at how many players this game has lost in the last 2 years - you have the level of pay-to-win advantages in this game partly to blame for that. Players don't want to play a game where they have no chance in battle - so if you want the game to survive with reasonable player numbers, I don't think you should want massive pay-to-win advantages which you can exploit.

Oh and as for the fourth module - its price was FAR too high anyway. When it was first talked about many of us thought it would be 1,000 or so - and now it is. Good. It wasn't good to have the game so heavily entrenched in pay-to-win as it has been in the last 2 years (but it still will be after this, although there might be a little more equality for a while).

TDLR; Free players can't use Crisis even if they get it. Not everyone can participate, and fund probably won't reach level 14/15. Everyone can get Crisis/Armadillo if they get lucky anyway, and buyers still have advantages and will have many more new ones in the future.

Edited December 8, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[fire_shoter 555]

1 hour ago, Sgg1996 said:

Thanks to the tanki's new approach to giveaway anything exotic, I decided to stop tanki online after several years of playing.

I got crisis and paladin xt from the last event and realized that there's an event that allows ALL its participants to get crisis and armadillo module.

This is almost terrible for a buyer who has spent hundreds of dollars on ultra containers and bundles.

 

I ask myself what if I buy something and it appears in a giveaway sometime tomorrow? Not worth buying anymore.

Gambling is OVER.

Bruh, u abused brazilian prices, got everything 4x cheaper, abused the hell out of  crisis, all other op things and now u are crying!? Dude get out of here. 

Edited December 8, 2021 by fire_shoter

[Sgg1996 1]

2 hours ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

It's far from "guaranteed" that Crisis and Armadillo will be given to everyone, as the fund has to reach 15 million for that which is unlikely. Besides as I already explained, Crisis is a buyer/helper/eSports only drone due to its supply consumption, which can't be maintained by a free player - so it doesn't matter if everyone got Crisis for free, not everyone will be able to use it.

Now besides this, not "everyone" will be able to even afford the Bronze bundle to participate, as if you were a free player you had to have 1000 tankoins for that - which not everyone has. And free players or light buyers can get Crisis/Armadillo from Ultra Containers anyway if they are lucky (I have Crisis on 2 accounts and Armadillo on one as a free player). So now that free players and light buyers have a one-off better chance to get something, I don't really get why you are annoyed.

 

Pay-to-win (bought items that give an actual increase in power over other players) is bad for the game anyway, and there will probably come many new updates in the future which favour buyers - and by the way I don't think that's a good thing either. It would be best if buying gives cosmetic things only, if that were possible. Just look at how many players this game has lost in the last 2 years - you have the level of pay-to-win advantages in this game partly to blame for that. Players don't want to play a game where they have no chance in battle - so if you want the game to survive with reasonable player numbers, I don't think you should want massive pay-to-win advantages which you can exploit.

Oh and as for the fourth module - its price was FAR too high anyway. When it was first talked about many of us thought it would be 1,000 or so - and now it is. Good. It wasn't good to have the game so heavily entrenched in pay-to-win as it has been in the last 2 years (but it still will be after this, although there might be a little more equality for a while).

TDLR; Free players can't use Crisis even if they get it. Not everyone can participate, and fund probably won't reach level 14/15. Everyone can get Crisis/Armadillo if they get lucky anyway, and buyers still have advantages and will have many more new ones in the future.

I'm not talking about the current event and I don't care about what developers offer players to get for a fraction of price.

If you get something exotic today, it will be an epic or common item tomorrow, meaning you will be insecure of your tank's strength forever and this circle continues asking to pay more and more. A vicious circle.

And pointing out a few mistakes you made in your comment; ofc free players will be able to get supplies (as they are already) and buyers (those who buy occasionally) will have an advantage by getting such items (modules and exotic items) for such low price and they WILL afford the supplies right? So, crisis and other exotic items will get a nerf and a new drone/exotic item will be introduced and this circle will never stop.

 

Edited December 8, 2021 by Sgg1996

[Thankxtu 286]

3 hours ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

Oh and as for the fourth module - its price was FAR too high anyway. When it was first talked about many of us thought it would be 1,000 or so - and now it is. Good. It wasn't good to have the game so heavily entrenched in pay-to-win as it has been in the last 2 years (but it still will be after this, although there might be a little more equality for a while).
 

4th slot costs 1k now?

Edit: Its 5k only , got my hopes up lmao.

Edited December 8, 2021 by Thankxtu

[wolverine848 13,097]

Lvl 2, 6 and 10 give additional protection module slot.  That's 3.

They need to be acquired separately for each hull in your garage?

If we actually paid 5k tk in the shop - that would get you extra slot for... one hull only?

[wild001 1,422]

8 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Lvl 2, 6 and 10 give additional protection module slot.  That's 3.

They need to be acquired separately for each hull in your garage?

If we actually paid 5k tk in the shop - that would get you extra slot for... one hull only?

3 slot is for those low ranks since dev lock protection module slot to 1 in previous update (to reduce too much protection for low ranks),
thus price for 2,3,4 is 500,1000,5000 tankicoins.

old tanki who already using 3 slot is still 3 slot only, +1 = 4, +1 + 1 still =4 for them and you.

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module is not related to hull, unlike augments (hull or turret)

Edited December 8, 2021 by wild001

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

40 minutes ago, Thankxtu said:

4th slot costs 1k now?

Edit: Its 5k only , got my hopes up lmao.

Well I mean that it is effectively 1k, from this event - buy Bronze for 990 tk and you get it, since we have hit the 2 million mark :)
 

49 minutes ago, Sgg1996 said:

I'm not talking about the current event and I don't care about what developers offer players to get for a fraction of price.

If you get something exotic today, it will be an epic or common item tomorrow, meaning you will be insecure of your tank's strength forever and this circle continues asking to pay more and more. A vicious circle.

And pointing out a few mistakes you made in your comment; ofc free players will be able to get supplies (as they are already) and buyers (those who buy occasionally) will have an advantage by getting such items (modules and exotic items) for such low price and they WILL afford the supplies right? So, crisis and other exotic items will get a nerf and a new drone/exotic item will be introduced and this circle will never stop.

 

Well that is true that the developers keep adding new things, and then what you had before becomes weaker (or they offer the old stuff for a discount), and old items become de-valued. That is part of the problem with pay-to-win features also, and why it would be better to have cosmetic items only from buying if possible.

But anyway yes, it seems that when you buy items with an actual in-game advantage you are buying a "temporary advantage", because they will always keep adding new things that you have to buy or play a lot to obtain, and they may also offer older items more easily, or for a discount. You are paying to have the item before everyone else gets it - everything is an "early access" just like Tesla and Paladin were. So you should view any purchases as giving you a temporary, and not permanent, advantage then perhaps - and buy with that in mind. If I was a buyer I would probably only spend a small amount, over a longer period of time therefore - as $120 spent in January will be less valuable than $10 each month - as that $10 each month will be able to get me some of the newly released equipment, perhaps.

There are big problems with a pay-to-win model - if players see that they have no chance in battle against people who have bought a huge advantage (as there has been in Tanki in the last 2 years) they may well decide to quit, and if enough people do that the game will lose too many players, and will no longer have the numbers to support matchmaking. Then, the game dies. Not to mention that some of the weaker players could have been "light buyers", who contributed a small amount of money to the game each, but together it all added up to a large amount.

Now on the other hand if we have a fairer system (with more equality between heavy buyers and others) as an event like this will help to bring - or simply by having a lower pay-to-win advantage, then less players will be likely to quit out of frustration, and the game will live longer. So I am sorry, having gigantic pay-to-win advantages like you have been enjoying for the past 2 years is NOT good for the game, and it will kill the game very fast if it keeps going like this - just look at how fast the player numbers have declined, with all the pay-to-win changes such as Ultra Container augments, 4th modules, and Crisis/Hopper etc in the past 2 years. Your $100s spent on the game will be even LESS valuable, if the game dies completely if all the players quit - a fairer system is better for everyone: heavy/light and non-buyers.

If you want to be a buyer I would spend a small amount, over a longer time, rather than huge amounts all at once - to account for the fact that items become de-valued over time in Tanki, and that new items are brought out continually.

EDIT: And you seem to imply from your post that free players will have enough supplies to use Crisis regularly - well as a free player I can confirm: no they won't. The only way is if you play very rarely and collect shards most of the time without playing, or by getting extra supplies from another source - such as winning contests. The supplies free players get are just about enough to use Defender/Booster/Trickster type drones if they play daily, but not Crisis. The only exception is if you have an absolutely MAXED out account, and can afford to spend all your crystals on supplies - then you can use Crisis as a free player daily, without things like contest wins. But only then.

Edited December 8, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[wolverine848 13,097]

11 minutes ago, wild001 said:

3 slot is for those low ranks since dev lock protection module slot to 1 in previous update (to reduce too much protection for low ranks),
thus price for 2,3,4 is 500,1000,5000 tankicoins.

old tanki who already using 3 slot is still 3 slot only, +1 = 4, +1 + 1 still =4 for them and you.

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module is not related to hull, unlike augments (hull or turret)

So... unless it gets to lvl 14 then it really doesn't matter, as lvl 2 gives me my 4th slot...

[alkyng 3,080]

On 12/7/2021 at 1:46 AM, lssimo said:

See? Most of the this depends on us individually, and on how we see and value things.

But most of moderators have the same opinions on this. So that emoti have some extent.

Edited December 8, 2021 by asem.harbi

[NikmanGT 4,362]

I see the fund has reached 2.7 Million tankoins, Nice ^^

[G-O-D 18]

1 hour ago, nikunj04 said:

I see the fund has reached 2.7 Million tankoins, Nice ^^

Now it is lower than this

What is happening?? Because i saw more than 2.7 and now its shows 2.6 on me lol, bug or what

[lssimo 1,559]

1 hour ago, asem.harbi said:

But most of moderators have the same opinions on this. So that emoti have some extent.

The lying emoti?

Still, I think we should judge individually.

[NikmanGT 4,362]

22 minutes ago, year20 said:

Now it is lower than this

What is happening?? Because i saw more than 2.7 and now its shows 2.6 on me lol, bug or what

Yeah, I saw that too, maybe it was some unspecified bug, or maybe some excess bundles were purchased which were now refunded. Its reported, as soon as I get an answer, I will get back to you ^^

In the meantime guys, stay tuned and buy bundles

[lssimo 1,559]

2 780 000

[lssimo 1,559]

2 812 000 Toins /

351 Humans =

8 011 Toins per Human average ?

Edited December 8, 2021 by lssimo

[NikmanGT 4,362]

36 minutes ago, lssimo said:

2 812 000 Toins /

351 Humans =

8 011 Toins per Human average ?

Reduce 10% from the fund because that goes to the Esport players.