event eSports Tanki Fund. TankiSport 2021 Season IV

[lssimo 1,559]

2 minutes ago, nikunj04 said:

Reduce 10% from the fund because that goes to the Esport players.

No, my point is that it looks like many are buying more than one bundle. Or maybe I'm missing something, hence the question.

[NikmanGT 4,362]

1 minute ago, lssimo said:

No, my point is that it looks like many are buying more than one bundle. Or maybe I'm missing something, hence the question.

Yes many people can buy the bundles more than once (Silver). More number of bundles you buy, more chances you get in the giveaway. The amount you calculated is the prize for giveaway per person if he/she wins. Let's say I bought bundles twice, and now I have 2 chances of winning the giveaway and let's say I won the giveaway twice, so I am going to get 8k*2 = 16,000 tankoins ^^

[numericable 2,375]

4 minutes ago, At_Shin said:

The number of players displayed on the page do not represent how many players have bought the bundles. Rather, it represents how many players are going to win the tanki fund worth 8000 tankoins. So, at the time you saw it, 351 players will be eligible to claim those 8000 tankoins each.

With every 8000 tankoins in the fund, the number of winners will increase. Hence, you should see this number increase proportionally to the total amount of tankoins in the fund.

Yeah, the ratio of tankoins per winner will remain close to 8000 as with every 8k tankoins another player becomes a winner. In the last tanki fund, the ratio of tankoins per winner was 8003.

Hence, each lucky winner of the previous Tanki Fund had received 8003 tankoins.

Not 8k tankoins, more like 7,2k, remember, esport players get 10% which is unfair. Honestly, i hope that the fund won't reach any skin container so i will not spend my hard earned 1k to contribute to this. They dont want average players to get so many tankoins so thats why they prefer to give them to people who have already maxed garage (top 3 clans ...)

[VIXEN-92 3]

4 hours ago, nikunj04 said:

In the meantime guys, stay tuned and buy bundles

UH no.

[Towns 574]

4 hours ago, nikunj04 said:

In the meantime guys, stay tuned and buy bundles

Yeah no thanks, I decide what to spend my money on, not you. 

 

Spoiler

I'm aware this is most likely a joke, so please don't take it seriously. :) 

At the time of me editing this post, the fund has 2838000 tankoins in the pool. That's already 283800 tankoins going towards the eSports teams as of now. It will increase over time, but it's just something nice to point out rn :)

Edited December 8, 2021 by Towns

[VIC2000 92]

36 minutes ago, At_Shin said:

They want average players to participate in esports more.

Sounds perfect for you and your buddies.

[NikmanGT 4,362]

We are close to hitting 3 Million tankoins ^^

[Incorp 2,084]

6 minutes ago, nikunj04 said:

We are close to hitting 3 Million tankoins ^^

I officially declare you the official monitor of the tanki fund programme. 

[NikmanGT 4,362]

3 minutes ago, At_Shin said:

The Literal hype going on like this....

2 minutes ago, Incorp said:

I officially declare you the official monitor of the tanki fund programme. 

Well Thank You very much ^^

[numericable 2,375]

1M reached in 13 hours

2M reached in 22 more hours

3M reached in 28 more hours

Total=  global 3M reached in 63 hours

 

Edited December 8, 2021 by numericable

[NikmanGT 4,362]

Congratulation to everyone who contributed ^^ Whopping 3 Million

[wild001 1,422]

50 minutes ago, numericable said:

1M reached in 13 hours

2M reached in 22 more hours

3M reached in 28 more hours

Total=  global 3M reached in 63 hours

 

14 day = 14 x 24h = 336 hr

1st M = 13, 2nd M =13+ 22, 3rd M= 13+22+28,
 

by prediction, 13,35,63,97,137,183,235,293,357
using sequence solver: https://alteredqualia.com/visualization/hn/sequence/

13h=1M
35h=2M
63h=3M (2.6d)
97h=4M (4d, extra M = 34h)
137h=5M (5.7d, extra M = 40h)
183h=6M (7.6d,  extra M = 46h)
235h=7M (9.7d, extra M = 52h)
293h=8M (12.2d, extra M = 58h)
357h=9M (14.8d, extra M = 64h we may not reach 9M by end of 14 days = 336hr)

the trend is , slower and slower late joining buyers, slower growth as it goes, why would buyer care spend 1000 coins in last day, most buyer would buy in early few days already.

Edited December 8, 2021 by wild001

[numericable 2,375]

45 minutes ago, wild001 said:

14 day = 14 x 24h = 336 hr

1st M = 13, 2nd M =13+ 22, 3rd M= 13+22+28,
 

by prediction, 13,35,63,97,137,183,235,293,357
using sequence solver: https://alteredqualia.com/visualization/hn/sequence/

13h=1M
35h=2M
63h=3M (2.6d)
97h=4M (4d, extra M = 34h)
137h=5M (5.7d, extra M = 40h)
183h=6M (7.6d,  extra M = 46h)
235h=7M (9.7d, extra M = 52h)
293h=8M (12.2d, extra M = 58h)
357h=9M (14.8d, extra M = 64h we may not reach 9M by end of 14 days = 336hr)

the trend is , slower and slower late joining buyers, slower growth as it goes, why would buyer care spend 1000 coins in last day, most buyer would buy in early few days already.

We will not even reach skin containers, developers are smart to make money with these kind of stuff

[DaringDeer 656]

14 hours ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

EDIT: And you seem to imply from your post that free players will have enough supplies to use Crisis regularly - well as a free player I can confirm: no they won't. The only way is if you play very rarely and collect shards most of the time without playing, or by getting extra supplies from another source - such as winning contests. The supplies free players get are just about enough to use Defender/Booster/Trickster type drones if they play daily, but not Crisis. The only exception is if you have an absolutely MAXED out account, and can afford to spend all your crystals on supplies - then you can use Crisis as a free player daily, without things like contest wins. But only then.

I use Crisis almost exclusively and 100% of crystals I earn go toward maintaining supply levels and I only buy on 50% sales.  

[numericable 2,375]

Crisis is good for you ONLY if you play tanki for fun or to kill time, if you play tanki to grind or just for the pleasure to earn lots of crystals, build a strong account, crisis is not for you. 

[tasu88 20]

will the prizes be received at the end of the event? thanks

[lssimo 1,559]

8 hours ago, At_Shin said:

The number of players displayed on the page do not represent how many players have bought the bundles. Rather, it represents how many players are going to win the tanki fund worth 8000 tankoins. So, at the time you saw it, 351 players will be eligible to claim those 8000 tankoins each.

With every 8000 tankoins in the fund, the number of winners will increase. Hence, you should see this number increase proportionally to the total amount of tankoins in the fund.

Yeah, the ratio of tankoins per winner will remain close to 8000 as with every 8k tankoins another player becomes a winner. In the last tanki fund, the ratio of tankoins per winner was 8003.

Hence, each lucky winner of the previous Tanki Fund had received 8003 tankoins.

Isn't it actually the number of winning tickets that will be selected to win Toins?

1 hour ago, wild001 said:

14 day = 14 x 24h = 336 hr

1st M = 13, 2nd M =13+ 22, 3rd M= 13+22+28,
 

by prediction, 13,35,63,97,137,183,235,293,357
using sequence solver: https://alteredqualia.com/visualization/hn/sequence/

13h=1M
35h=2M
63h=3M (2.6d)
97h=4M (4d, extra M = 34h)
137h=5M (5.7d, extra M = 40h)
183h=6M (7.6d,  extra M = 46h)
235h=7M (9.7d, extra M = 52h)
293h=8M (12.2d, extra M = 58h)
357h=9M (14.8d, extra M = 64h we may not reach 9M by end of 14 days = 336hr)

the trend is , slower and slower late joining buyers, slower growth as it goes, why would buyer care spend 1000 coins in last day, most buyer would buy in early few days already.

Buyers can buy additional bundles late in the event if they think they can make a difference.

And don't forget Weekend players.

Anyway, I was thinking 7M total.

[lssimo 1,559]

38 minutes ago, DaringDeer said:

I use Crisis almost exclusively and 100% of crystals I earn go toward maintaining supply levels and I only buy on 50% sales.  

Yes, but you are a deer.

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

3 hours ago, DaringDeer said:

I use Crisis almost exclusively and 100% of crystals I earn go toward maintaining supply levels and I only buy on 50% sales.  

As I thought, interesting :) Ye that drone is rather expensive to maintain, lol! It is I guess the true "end-game" for a free player - once you have a totally maxed out account with nothing else to spend crystals on, and you are lucky enough to get Crisis and upgrade it - then you can spend all crystals you get on Crisis, and use it sometimes. But other than that it is just a crystal (or supply) sink for free players. Only a buyer/helper/eSports player or someone who wins a LOT of contests/events could afford the supplies to use it regularly.

The only other way for free players to use it is on an alt account which they play super rarely, and collect shard containers regularly on to get extra supplies. Then you could play that account like once every 2 weeks, and you might be OK. On a main account, using Crisis daily, with no extra source of supplies as a free player? No, not going to happen.

 

4 hours ago, wild001 said:

14 day = 14 x 24h = 336 hr

1st M = 13, 2nd M =13+ 22, 3rd M= 13+22+28,
 

by prediction, 13,35,63,97,137,183,235,293,357
using sequence solver: https://alteredqualia.com/visualization/hn/sequence/

13h=1M
35h=2M
63h=3M (2.6d)
97h=4M (4d, extra M = 34h)
137h=5M (5.7d, extra M = 40h)
183h=6M (7.6d,  extra M = 46h)
235h=7M (9.7d, extra M = 52h)
293h=8M (12.2d, extra M = 58h)
357h=9M (14.8d, extra M = 64h we may not reach 9M by end of 14 days = 336hr)

the trend is , slower and slower late joining buyers, slower growth as it goes, why would buyer care spend 1000 coins in last day, most buyer would buy in early few days already.

Nice calculation, but I don't think we will see continuous growth of the fund at the same rate - there are various points at which I think the fund will rise slower or faster.

I think the main points of rise from this point onwards will be at the weekends on Friday/Saturday - when new Twins augments are released. The developers said in the last V-Log that they had several new Twins augments coming, and so I assume these will be released at a rate of one per week - or it could even be two per week. Conveniently (as they have planned no doubt) there are two weekends between now and December 19th, so with silver or gold bundles being bought to obtain these new Twins augments - this will probably be a large driver of the fund. So expect to see significant rises this weekend on Friday/Saturday, and next weekend.

As of now, the fund has started - and we have also just passed the 2 million mark with the 4th module. This means that probably most of those who wanted to pay in 1000 tankoins (or to even buy the silver/gold bundles) for the fourth module, have probably already done so. And those who just wanted to get into the event with one of the bundles at the very start, have also already done so. There is no particular incentive for players to buy at this point, between now and Thursday night - so we should see slow growth in the fund for now, as I think we are seeing. Nothing too dramatic should happen before Friday at the reset time.

The real question is how much the fund has grown by, on Saturday evening - when buyers have had a chance to buy those Silver or Gold bundles for the new augments. Then, we will have a realistic idea of just how high the fund might go.

There are also a few other points at which the fund could grow, these are:

- If we reach the "15 Ultra Containers" stage - making the Bronze bundle, and even Silver (if a player has not already bought), a good bit better value
- If we reach the 1st, 2nd, 3rd skin container stage
- If we reach the Armadillo or Crisis stage (obviously)

However these milestones will only attract new buyers, who have not already bought in, and so the gains at these points could actually be fairly minor, compared to the gains from bundles bought at the weekend for the new augments.

And the last stage of growth:

- At the very end, for those who have "fear of missing out" or who were unsure whether to buy in or not, and decide to do so at the last minute

So all in all, let's see what it is like by Saturday evening and we will have some idea of where it might go. All depends on how many buyers are going to buy those packs at weekends - many could even decide to boycott the event to prevent others from getting Armadillo/Crisis - who knows. We will see, but don't expect anything dramatic to happen until the weekend.

However I must say, I would have expected to see a much larger growth after we hit the 2 million mark. The fact we are only on 3 million at his point, makes me think that your prediction of around 9 million could be close. A lot of people who wanted to buy in once with Bronze or Silver will already have done so. The fund is now in the hands of buyers at those weekends, all depends on that.
 

Edited December 8, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[VIC2000 92]

7 hours ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

However I must say, I would have expected to see a much larger growth after we hit the 2 million mark. The fact we are only on 3 million at his point, makes me think that your prediction of around 9 million could be close.

Lets hope for about 5 million, max.

That should tell the devs something if that is all it reaches. Personally i hope its lower. 

 

Edited December 9, 2021 by At_Shin
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[DaringDeer 656]

I know quite a few people waiting to buy silver and gold bundles until ultra containers contain more of the new augments to have better chance of getting a desired item from opening.  If Tanki didn't go through the process of changing kept containers into "old" containers and only adding items to "new" containers, people would be more likely to buy earlier.  Maybe they are changing that behavior because I had a bunch of saved regular containers and when they added paladin to garage, the paladin hull augments were added to my existing regular containers.

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

7 hours ago, VIC2000 said:

Lets hope for about 5 million, max.

That should tell the devs something if that is all it reaches. Personally i hope its lower. 

 

I think the developers are being pretty generous with this event :) So I don't think such criticism is warranted. If you want to criticise other things in the past, or other aspects of the game and business model, sure, but this is a cool event and fair for all players.*

*However, as @numericable has already pointed out, I think the 10% going to the top eSports clans is probably a bad idea. Because, that will be a big reduction in the amount of tankoins players get back, and the eSports players are already earning amazing rewards from the tournament itself - while most of them probably already have maxed or close to maxed out garages, and they won't really be in need of that many tankoins. A cool idea, but it will probably overall discourage buying, and those who will be getting the tankoins (already maxed out eSports players already earning great rewards), will probably not appreciate it as much as other - quite possibly poorer - players would have done, if they had gotten that extra 10% back themselves.

 

8 hours ago, tasu88 said:

will the prizes be received at the end of the event? thanks

 

On 12/3/2021 at 12:15 PM, Marcus said:

All prizes will be awarded on December 22nd during the day.

Hey, as you can see in the original post - it says that all prizes will be awarded during the day, on December 22nd. Although, that may be referring to the containers you can win by voting for eSports match results given where it is mentioned in the post, or it could mean ALL prizes - including from the Tankoin Fund. I have to say therefore that I am not sure, but it seems to indicate December 22nd for all prizes - including those from the fund itself - to be sent out.

Edited December 9, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[NikmanGT 4,362]

8 hours ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

Although, that may be referring to the containers you can win by voting for eSports match results given where it is mentioned in the post, or it could mean ALL prizes - including from the Tankoin Fund. I have to say therefore that I am not sure, but it seems to indicate December 22nd for all prizes - including those from the fund itself - to be sent out.

It means all the prizes including the fund.

[Spy 14,687]

I wish players cared more about the eSports matches rather than on the fund 

[Towns 574]

Very nice.

16 minutes ago, Spy said:

I wish players cared more about the eSports matches rather than on the fund 

I wish I could man, but I've lost interest in the TO eSports community over time sadly, also in the TO community in general. 

 

I've moved onto something better now, and I'm having fun with it. All the best in your matches!