A token of apology

[wolverine848 13,097]

3 hours ago, Venerable said:

Let me make a few things clear. Tanki introduced an update: players can no longer purchase turrets and hulls directly from the Garage, and they can only obtain the Mk1 version of any turret/hull via normal containers. I won't go into how good or bad this update is, because that is not related to the "issue". People found that they were getting the Mk1 versions of some equipment despite having higher modifications, which means that the containers they opened were wasted.

This happened because the Developers, by their own admission, made a mistake and overlooked one important factor: For players who had bought Mk2 or higher modifications of turrets/hulls (via kits or bundles), the system assumed that these players never had the Mk1 version, and hence they could still get the Mk1 version of some equipment from containers.

Well this is not true - I can purchase mk1 versions of turrets I don't own right now

If it WAS true it would be one of the dumbest updates they've ever made.  Relying on luck to get a turret you want would harken to the days of TX and the silly random blue-prints.  And we all know what happened to TX.

[Venerable 2,968]

1 minute ago, wolverine848 said:

Well this is not true - I can purchase mk1 versions of turrets I don't own right now

If it WAS true it would be one of the dumbest updates they've ever made.  Relying on luck to get a turret you want would harken to the days of TX and the silly random blue-prints.  And we all know what happened to TX.

Sorry, I had misinterpreted that particular bit after a convo I had with a few friends... Thanks a lot for pointing that out! I'll edit my post in a bit...

[mborec 68]

Apologize not accepted.

EDITED :

Cause those frauders robbed me of 640 000 crystals from my own 16 legends rank-ups what I din't claimed and I let theh to worse times but they transformed them into 16 new containers !!!!!!!!!!!!

Those technical support with all my clues what I added told me this : You don't get crystals as a reward now, Special mission to rank up now rewards you with 1 common container.
https://en.tankiforum.com/…22/
You had to pick up all your rewards.

They hadn't written anything about it before, so they robbed me without warning. And also. Their current policy has changed what already was. Which I am wrong is contrary to what has been given.

FRAUDERS,  ROBBERS AND LIARS !!!!

 

 

Edited January 16, 2022 by mborec
Know the truth

[VIC2000 92]

@Venerable The new containers are still trash and why did the "apology containers" give you pathetic MK1 gear that NOBODY will ever use, EVER.

I understood the difference between the apology and the updated containers, i was pointing out that both were useless and the update was just another way of fleecing the players.

Over the years the devs have giving less and demanded more from the players, cash, game time and all we ever get are OP buyer only updates and pathetic explanations as to why they do what they do, that is when they get round to explaining anything that causes players to question most things that they do.

 

[lssimo 1,559]

4 hours ago, VIC2000 said:

@Venerable The new containers are still trash and why did the "apology containers" give you pathetic MK1 gear that NOBODY will ever use, EVER.

...

The "apology containers" are the same containers as the others.

And they are giving us 23 to cover 23 MK1s we will get if we don't or didn't own any Mk1s other than the default.

Those 23 Mk1s are:

14 turrets (minus Smoky)

9 hulls (minus Viking and Crusader)

I think they'll fix the issue of giving Mk1s when we already have higher Mks of that equipment soon. This is why I recommend to not open any Daily Containers for now.

Edited January 16, 2022 by lssimo

[E_polypterus 2,374]

The Polypterus had no idea what the token of apology was about, but he thanks the devs for the 23 containers. 

[Okami 3,041]

On 1/14/2022 at 2:08 PM, Marcus said:

However, we did not take into account that some tankers have skipped the first modifications of certain equipment when purchasing higher modifications available for their ranks. As a result, the system failed to detect the presence of certain first modifications in these players' inventories and have therefore dropped the Mk1s in Containers. 

 

On 1/15/2022 at 7:09 PM, Venerable said:

This happened because the Developers, by their own admission, made a mistake and overlooked one important factor: For players who had bought Mk2 or higher modifications of turrets/hulls (via kits or bundles), the system assumed that these players never had the Mk1 version, and hence they could still get the Mk1 version of some equipment from containers.

This is incorrect. I have definitive, documented proof that I have had Hornet M0 in the past, but it still got put in Containers. Unlike the other items that got put in my Container pool (Gauss, Mammoth), I did not buy the M1 version without ever owning the M0 version. 

So not only was a weak fix made, but the explanation for the problem is completely untrue.

Spoiler

 

Edited January 17, 2022 by At_Shin
Added Spoiler.

[wolverine848 13,097]

16 minutes ago, GrayWolf8733 said:

 

This is WRONG. I have definitive, documented proof that I have had Hornet M0 in the past, but it still got put in Containers. Unlike the other items that got put in my Container pool (Gauss, Mammoth), I did not buy the M1 version without ever owning the M0 version. 

So not only was a weak fix made, but the explanation for the problem is completely untrue.

But don't the 23 free containers compensate for getting something you already had?

I bigger issue is ... it's a silly idea.  EVEN IF I don't already have hopper mk1 - why the heck would I want that at Legend?  If I wanted that hull I could easily buy it.  But now I'm getting something I will never use in lieu of something I probably would use.  Supplies I have a lot of - but - I will eventually use them.  Unlike... hopper.

[Venerable 2,968]

49 minutes ago, GrayWolf8733 said:

Hi, thanks for informing me!

I have a theory behind why some players are still getting Mk1s even though they already own those Mk1s, but it's based on the experiences of a small number of players and hasn't been officially verified:

If you bought the M0 version of some hull/turret, and you ended up with Mk1 after the M to Mk conversion, then too the system fails to detect the presence of Mk1 equipment. I don't know why - don't ask .
I'll still get some more clarity on this and get back to you (you've already quoted Marcus though, so he'll know too, but still).

[ZivOfficial 290]

On 1/14/2022 at 2:45 PM, Akame said:

It's become a feature as of this apology; enjoy the 23 containers to help get rid off your mk1's not recognized by the game. Basically if you had not purchased an mk1 of an item, i.e skipped to mk2 or above with a kit etc, the game does not see that, hence you have the mk1 in your pool.

Got it, thank you!

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

So now that this token of apology has disappeared - we are back with the same problem for anyone who didn't collect it (unless developers have now fixed this issue, have they? Assuming the answer is no). Any player that did not log in when the token of apology was available, will potentially get Mk1s from containers when they already may have a higher modification, if they start playing from today onwards - and they won't get more containers to compensate.

So, if not done already, surely the developers can add some basic code to fix this. IF a player's account has any modification of a turret (Mk1 to Mk8) they DON'T get the turret in the container reward pool. Surely it can't be that hard to code? Or else, there are going to be many on-going complaints.

[JoyRide 80]

We are nor stupid, we know very well that 23 containers are not at all compensating for the  MK1 equipment in container prizes when we  already own it. In average  it takes 10 containers to get a "Rare" prize.  In order to be close to fair we should have  received  containers for every equipment like this:

Common :  1  containers 

Uncommon : 4  containers (3,4 is not possible)

Rare:  10 containers 

 

The best solution is simply to remove the misplaced MK1 equipment.

PLEASE CORRECT YOUR MISTAKE PROPERLY!!

Edited January 18, 2022 by JoyRide

[numericable 2,375]

On 1/15/2022 at 11:24 PM, mborec said:

Apologize not accepted.

EDITED :

Cause those frauders robbed me of 640 000 crystals from my own 16 legends rank-ups what I din't claimed and I let theh to worse times but they transformed them into 16 new containers !!!!!!!!!!!!

Those technical support with all my clues what I added told me this : You don't get crystals as a reward now, Special mission to rank up now rewards you with 1 common container.
https://en.tankiforum.com/…22/
You had to pick up all your rewards.

They hadn't written anything about it before, so they robbed me without warning. And also. Their current policy has changed what already was. Which I am wrong is contrary to what has been given.

FRAUDERS,  ROBBERS AND LIARS !!!!

 

 

Lol, why didnt you collected those 40k too, what is the point of saving them? They robbed you BUT you clearly waited too long for claiming them.  16 rank ups ...

Edited January 18, 2022 by numericable

[JoyRide 80]

8 minutes ago, numericable said:

Lol, why didnt you collected those 40k too, what is the point of saving them? They robbed you BUT you clearly waited too long for claiming them.  16 rank ups ...

Who made you the judge of  what is  " too long" ?  If  there was no timeout clearly emborec was the ONLY one to decide when to collect them. This  is robbery indeed.

Edited January 18, 2022 by JoyRide

[Cor7y 13,862]

 

[numericable 2,375]

1 hour ago, JoyRide said:

Who made you the judge of  what is  " too long" ?  If  there was no timeout clearly emborec was the ONLY one to decide when to collect them. This  is robbery indeed.

I will tell you something, an example, it is like buying a new beautiful house, and never live in it, never visit it either, just leaving it like this. ofc someone will come in and squat it anytime. In this case, it is a robbery too but does that mean i agree with it? No. What he should have done is to collect it ASAP and what the devs should have done is to tell explicitely what they would have done to the rank up rewards.

I can judge he indeed wait too long as far as the most experienced and tryharder player do 16 rank up in 2 months, i do 16 rank up in 4 months with some tryharding the saturday so i assume he must have done them in a minimun of 6 months as he is in his first legend ranks and he has 6,5k gear, thats some logic.

Edited January 18, 2022 by numericable

[JoyRide 80]

53 minutes ago, numericable said:

I will tell you something, an example, it is like buying a new beautiful house, and never live in it, new visit it, just leaving it like this. ofc someone will come in and squat it anytime. In this case, it is a robbery too but does that mean i agree with it? No. What he should have done is to collect it ASAP and what the devs should have done is to tell explicitely what they would have done to the rank up rewards.

I can judge he indeed wait too long as far as the most experienced and tryharder player do 16 rank up in 2 months, i do 16 rank up in 4 months with some tryharding the saturday so i assume he must have done them in a minimun of 6 months as he is in his first legend ranks and he has not 10k, thats some logic.

Maybe you have other houses as well. Maybe you have some reasoning not to use it an outsider are unaware of. Maybe it is  practical in a small sense others do not understand.

But the point is that this is  legal issue not a practical one. Even if you do something impractical  within your rights it is no one else's  business.

Edited January 18, 2022 by JoyRide

[numericable 2,375]

5 minutes ago, JoyRide said:

Maybe you have other houses as well. Maybe you have some reasoning not to use it an outsider are unaware of. Maybe it is  practical in a small sense you do not understand.

But the point is that this is  legal issue not a practical one. Even if you do something impractical  within your rights it is no one else's  business.

In that case, you are aware that someone could steal it, even if it is not his right, to prevent it you should have put the house under visual protection camera or anything. Leaving it like it is taking a risk.

In this case, devs are the robbers, and to prevent it from happening, he should have taking them while he could. Most of the players know that devs are sneaky and they could have done something like this. Even in test server, the rank up reward was 1 cont. The devs are guilty and the player who didnt collected it was naïve to think something like this couldnt happen.

[BruhBruhThingThing 413]

19 hours ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

So now that this token of apology has disappeared - we are back with the same problem for anyone who didn't collect it (unless developers have now fixed this issue, have they? Assuming the answer is no). Any player that did not log in when the token of apology was available, will potentially get Mk1s from containers when they already may have a higher modification, if they start playing from today onwards - and they won't get more containers to compensate.

So, if not done already, surely the developers can add some basic code to fix this. IF a player's account has any modification of a turret (Mk1 to Mk8) they DON'T get the turret in the container reward pool. Surely it can't be that hard to code? Or else, there are going to be many on-going complaints.

I got a question regarding the whole thing. I haven't played it in months and don't plan to do so.

 

If you have something like MK 7 smoky and get the MK1 version from containers, does that occurrence revert your MK7 smoky back to MK1?

[mborec 68]

16 hours ago, numericable said:

Lol, why didnt you collected those 40k too, what is the point of saving them? They robbed you BUT you clearly waited too long for claiming them.  16 rank ups ...

You're  as the "creators" I see. when you say that ... What's yours and it's not time-limited is just yours! What don't you understand? All unauthorized interference is a breach of contract. Their technical support basically sent me to hell.

I don't know whose side you're on. Rich editors? Poor player? ...

Edited January 19, 2022 by At_Shin
Refrain from using inappropriate language.

[numericable 2,375]

10 hours ago, mborec said:

You're as stupid as the "creators" I see.

I am absolutely neutral. I wonder who is the between you and me, i remind you that you didn't collect 40k X 16 times, and you must have taken a while to do them, i could understand if a fully maxed account would have done so but a 6,5k gear that need crystals to get maxed combo... Now, think twice bef4 calling anyone

Edited January 19, 2022 by numericable

[stat.padder 225]

I agree that rank up reward is outrageous + they did a lot players dirty. When my premium ends I am probably going to stop playing since I can't get it from green containers + 40k crystals were good motivation to play, but even that is gone. However, titan-shaft player calling anyone stupid is...like...ehh...seriously?

[alkyng 3,080]

10 hours ago, numericable said:

it is like buying a new beautiful house, and never live in it, never visit it either, just leaving it like this. ofc someone will come in and squat it anytime.

But developers can steal your crystals at anytime, whether you collected them or not. Your example is very wrong, players are paying thousands to the game, not sure why not to trust!

 

[BruhBruhThingThing 413]

8 hours ago, At_Shin said:

No. Your mk7 smoky does not become mk1 even if a container rewards you with smoky mk1. Basically, that container gave you nothing at all - you could consider it as an empty container. It has no effect on any equipment you already own.

Ok that's good. At least they didn't go that route. Imagine if it actually did revert your gear back to MK1, lol.

[Princeps 13]

On 1/15/2022 at 4:39 AM, Venerable said:

Many players (including me) had already bought the Mk1 versions of most (if not all) of the turrets and hulls, so these items never showed up in our container-reward-pool.

Bruh... Like I already understood why they did this however even if you had bought the mk1 version of all the turrets hulls and drones you could still get them in the new containers. Thats what happened to me and everyone I know. Once we got it from the container once we couldnt get it again but it was not simply removed from the reward pool if you bought the turret or hull with crystals in the garage.