New turret — Scorpion!

[JustBlackWolf 875]

On 6/12/2022 at 2:37 PM, 2shots2kills said:

We are worried because most of the new pieces of equipment have been busted at launch, sometimes they have been broken up to an year, until some nerfs hit them.

 

OP/Broken (at launch): Magnum, Gauss, Tesla, Hopper, Paladin 

Balanced (at launch): Ares, Crusader

 

The fact that no one was able to hit the rocket salvo with Scorpion does not mean a thing, it can always be tweaked by the Devs when they see that it is close to useless.

I am afraid that the new Turret will follow this pattern:

 

Release Broken only in UTs for some months with no protection available, then it will have OP Augments is special offers/UTs, and then it will be purchasable in Garage with its Protection Module... and only after a year or so it will be nerfed to an acceptable state. 

 

I might sound pessimistic, but by following a pattern like the one I mentioned above, the Devs could generate a large volume of income... releasing a new Turret as balanced or weak makes 0 sense at a business standpoint, and anyone who believes this could be an acceptable outcome is nothing sort of gullible. 

it's clear that they added it to the new mode so to see how players would react to it, and to test it out, so to adjust it at release.

I shall remind to everyone that the "rocket salvo that doesn't hit anything" deals a total of 5000 damage, 10000 with DD active.

Now a heavy hull has 4000 hp, go figure.

Edited July 11, 2022 by JustBlackWolf

[King.David 371]

26 minutes ago, Maf said:

I like the total polar opposites on opinions in this thread. Half of the people are claiming it will be stupidly OP and way too easy to use, and the other half are saying that they tried it in AR and couldn't hit anyone with the rocket salvo

It wasn't designed for DM, unless you're ridiculously good at camping and mining to protect your position. Scorpion will be monstrous in SGE, TJR and even ASL.

[LambSauce 1,884]

5 minutes ago, King.David said:

Scorpion will be monstrous in SGE, TJR and even ASL.

I didn’t even consider this.

RIP TJR mode. 

[JustBlackWolf 875]

as if Assault wasn't frustrating enough to play

Edited June 14, 2022 by JustBlackWolf

[Niklas 388]

9 minutes ago, LambSauce said:

I didn’t even consider this.

RIP TJR mode. 

for now only those who are willing to pay for this turret will get it, while we, that are not paying for this turret, will be able to get the module against this turret to mk8. So for now I don't think TJR Mode is dead.

[Apis_the_Professor 335]

58 minutes ago, Maf said:

I like the total polar opposites on opinions in this thread. Half of the people are claiming it will be stupidly OP and way too easy to use, and the other half are saying that they tried it in AR and couldn't hit anyone with the rocket salvo

It's the same with everything in this game. Magnum for example (that turret is weak af - I have never used it).

There's maybe two or three players that are really skillful with it and then someone comes across them in battles and gets demolished. These players never have protection modules of course.

They get pissed off and come to forum making threads that Magnum is OP and deserves a nerf. While in fact, it's not, it's amongst the weakest turrets in the game.

If a player equips protection module, Magnum no longer exists in a battle.

At least that's how it's been for me.

Even Helios, which indeed is way more powerful than other augments in the game, becomes not that big of a deal when you equip ricochet protection.

Same applies to every other turret.

Forgot to mention Shaft: Have I not been having Shaft protection module equipped ever since I came back, I would have gotten destroyed at least 20.000 times more.

Edited June 12, 2022 by Apis_the_Professor

[EagleChappie 581]

14 hours ago, BloodPressure said:

I really do not understand where the need came from to introduce yet another weapon. At this moment the game's arsenal is being filled with farfetched mixtures of existing turrets and mechanics. Nothing new and refreshing. At least Tesla had unique properties. 

I think it was asked by a player in a vlog Q&A and they had it planned until now that they put it in the game

this was a question asked by a player (I don't remember exactly which one) - https://en.tankiwiki.com/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Questions_answered_by_the_Developers 

Edited June 12, 2022 by elcatalagamer

[PerplexingTX 39]

Beautiful model for the turret, its like as if Striker and Magnum had a baby... Hope it'll be better balanced and fun to play with

[LambSauce 1,884]

38 minutes ago, elcatalagamer said:

I think it was asked by a player in a vlog Q&A and they had it planned until now that they put it in the game

this was a question asked by a player (I don't remember exactly which one) - https://en.tankiwiki.com/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Questions_answered_by_the_Developers 

They said it would be a short range artillery turret. However Scorpion is long range so…

[YANUKFIN 493]

2 hours ago, 2shots2kills said:

releasing a new Turret as balanced or weak makes zero sense from a business standpoint, and anyone who believes that this could be an acceptable outcome is nothing sort of gullible. 

As gullible as the buyers?

 

1 hour ago, Apis_the_Professor said:

If a player equips protection module, Magnum no longer exists in a battle.

True enough and if they also have AP immunity a maxed mag struggles against even low rankers.

As for this new turret, I have no doubt that EMP/AP/CRITS/FREEZE/HEAT/STUN/ and anything else the developers can think of will be added to it's arsenal in due time, for lots of cash.  All of this will be added before the protection module of course to maximise the cash from the hypnotised, delusional, I have more money than sense buyers.

Same old TO, recycling old ideas onto a not so unique turret and making a already unplayable game for most even worse. 

 

Edited June 12, 2022 by YANUKFIN

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

Another turret... Now, we have 100000000 turrets. But only 4 protections ? Put another one to equip !

[The_Resistance 135]

22 minutes ago, x_Sorinel_x said:

Another turret... Now, we have 100000000 turrets. But only 4 protections ? Put another one to equip !

You can have only 10 different turrets in battle at once soooooo

[love_italy 50]

Don't talk to me about the new turret. I still have nightmare of tesla when it just came into game.

[NikmanGT 4,362]

3 minutes ago, love_italy said:

Don't talk to me about the new turret. I still have nightmare of tesla when it just came into game.

Tesla was immensely OP from the moment it was launched, it was the actual beast of arms race mode and still is a powerful turret till now.

But I don't feel that OPness or Overpowered vibes from Scorpion.

[love_italy 50]

20 minutes ago, NikmanGT said:

Tesla was immensely OP from the moment it was launched, it was the actual beast of arms race mode and still is a powerful turret till now.

But I don't feel that OPness or Overpowered vibes from Scorpion.

maybe its high dmg in the time it get released will annoys alittle . I am actually curious about  its aguments. maybe some augments as annoying as pulsar be made for this turret.

[EagleChappie 581]

2 hours ago, LambSauce said:

They said it would be a short range artillery turret. However Scorpion is long range so…

Well, there it says that it was a concept, so they have been able to change it at any time and put it in a long range

[numericable 2,375]

2 hours ago, LambSauce said:

They said it would be a short range artillery turret. However Scorpion is long range so…

There was a sort range artillery weapon in december, it was snowman's head, just like magnum but with a very short range. Maybe that's what they were refering to.

Edited June 12, 2022 by numericable

[Dopamine 2,161]

2 minutes ago, numericable said:

There was a sort range artillery weapon in december, it was snowman's head, just like magnum but with a very short range. Maybe that's what they were refering to.

Yeah I thought the new weapon will be something like that.

But then again, that would not really be much different from Magnum, much better to simply make that as an augment for Magnum...

[Maf 32,300]

4 hours ago, 2shots2kills said:

with no protection available

Agree with the rest of your comment, but I'm pretty sure the only time we had protection issues was when Hammer and Vulcan came out, and the protective paints were added only months later. With every subsequent turret the protection module became available on the day of release, and immediately sold for crystals.

[numericable 2,375]

34 minutes ago, frederik123456 said:

Yeah I thought the new weapon will be something like that.

But then again, that would not really be much different from Magnum, much better to simply make that as an augment for Magnum...

I always thought the next artillery turret would be either a grenade launcher or an airstrike turret. The latter was the right one. I am looking forward to waste those 22m crystals on it lol

[NikmanGT 4,362]

1 hour ago, love_italy said:

maybe some augments as annoying as pulsar be made for this turret.

Well I won't be surprised,  expect upcoming patch notes to be filled with Scorpion's augments.

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

I will buy this turret when the time comes.

[fghjkl54 1,517]

they shooted the gun early 

when will it be released, if this post exist it means it'll be released tomorrow but didn't

[Niklas 388]

17 minutes ago, fghjkl54 said:

they shooted the gun early 

when will it be released, if this post exist it means it'll be released tomorrow but didn't

I assume it will be added next Friday available in Ultra Containers

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

4 hours ago, The_Resistance said:

You can have only 10 different turrets in battle at once soooooo

So ? 4 protections from 4 turrets. The other 6 ? One shot and dead, right ?

And mines ? You know we have mine protection now...

Edited June 12, 2022 by x_Sorinel_x