event Rally Tankcar

[1M4U 72]

Correct me if I am wrong, but for each stage, in order to receive the maximum amount of prizes for that stage, is a whooping 200 stars? 

And if your team just so happen to get eliminated in the first round, does that mean you would have wasted 700 Tankoins and receives nothing?

[xXx_ALPHA-BEAST_xXx 291]

On 2/23/2023 at 9:01 AM, 1M4U said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but for each stage, in order to receive the maximum amount of prizes for that stage, is a whooping 200 stars? 

And if your team just so happen to get eliminated in the first round, does that mean you would have wasted 700 Tankoins and receives nothing?

600 tankoins definitely.

well events sound like very boring because of change in team  available byers switch side after seeing team  result so there is 100% chance of non byer loose.

kind of waste of time and energy save 700 tankoins and buy pass at least u get definite reward.

[XD_PRO 88]

On 2/22/2023 at 9:32 PM, ikari said:

like i alrd said u r sad.

Why would I be sad I just bought the pass and a clan for 3700 Tankoins. 

[Maf 32,300]

On 2/22/2023 at 5:24 PM, ikari said:

Yea, another p2w event which non-buyers can not afford, how long will devs greediness last i wonder?

So you're just gonna casually forget that time devs gave away thousands of tankoins, allowing everyone to get tons of stuff (including Crisis and Armadillo) for free from the Tanki Fund?

A few months ago I'd probably agree with you, but 700tk isn't that bad of a price for this. That being said, I think that the chance aspect of it (you don't know whether you'll end up on the winning team) makes this event less favourable for free players compared to something like a good battle pass. But that's just the game's economic model — there's different events and different bundles aimed at different purchase ability of players. Not everything will be made for F2P.

Honestly, a much bigger issue for F2P is not even the initial participation price, but the amount of grinding required to get the prizes. Even 50 stars is quite a lot — with an average of 2 per battle, that's around 3 hours per day (not including early finished battles), so 12 hours per day to get the 200 stars. 

 

On 2/23/2023 at 7:38 AM, alpha_beast said:

so there is 100% chance of non byer loose.

The chance is 83%. There's a 1 in 6 chance that you end up on the team that will end up winning. Plus, there's no total loss scenario, since you get some rewards either way, assuming you earn the stars required.

[The_Resistance 135]

Hmmm why Scorpion XT? Make Scorp GT!

[ikari 42]

On 2/23/2023 at 10:30 AM, Maf said:

So you're just gonna casually forget that time devs gave away thousands of tankoins, allowing everyone to get tons of stuff (including Crisis and Armadillo) for free from the Tanki Fund?

A few months ago I'd probably agree with you, but 700tk isn't that bad of a price for this. That being said, I think that the chance aspect of it (you don't know whether you'll end up on the winning team) makes this event less favourable for free players compared to something like a good battle pass. But that's just the game's economic model — there's different events and different bundles aimed at different purchase ability of players. Not everything will be made for F2P.

Honestly, a much bigger issue for F2P is not even the initial participation price, but the amount of grinding required to get the prizes. Even 50 stars is quite a lot — with an average of 2 per battle, that's around 3 hours per day (not including early finished battles), so 12 hours per day to get the 200 stars.

First of all, yall going on circles sayin that devs gave thousands of tk for free, that was compensation for being unable to play TO 1 week+ and why u think every1 who got that thousands of tk doesn’t spend it? Are we supposed to keep it forever? Be for real yall for once! istg yall defending this game like ur lives depends on it! And tbh p2w and f2p both should have same chances of winning and gettin good stuff, this game is so unfair towards non-buyers can’t tell me otherwise. Have a nice day.

[Bamba 188]

I have an idea:

Make a new topic like "Let's talk about Tanki" or "Open conversation about Tanki" where we can suggest ideas or changes about the game or share our thoughts about it, and the devs or  the decision makers will really be there and WILL ANSWER to our words (Let's say it will be open for a week or two so we all can talk how to make Tanki great again correctly).

As a veteran player who plays here for years and sees the bad comments or feelings of the players during the last months/year, it's a must.

The current situation with the "Ask the devs" topics or "We reading your comments" is nice, but not good enough because you never can read and answer anything (I think this idea can be good and worth enough to stop your plans for a week or two - after all, without the players, the game will die.

I understand @Maf and devs head, but we all needs to think how to make the balance between P2P and F2P like it was in the past (I meant when F2P players didnt felt that disappointed and angry again and again.  And yeah, I know the game doesnt work and act like it was in the past and many changes happened. but still, its just look strange that everyone are so mad and you can see that the tactic were changed and true dialog has to be done, fastly)

Edited February 23, 2023 by tanshin

[Maf 32,300]

On 2/23/2023 at 12:27 PM, ikari said:

Are we supposed to keep it forever?

A F2P player who's smart about their spending thinks carefully about where to spend the tankoins, as opposed to wasting them away at the first opportunity. The token of apology was only a few months ago, so I'd expect smart F2P players to still have around 2000tk lying around.

On 2/23/2023 at 12:27 PM, ikari said:

istg yall defending this game like ur lives depends on it!

Half of my post was actually critical of this event.

On 2/23/2023 at 12:27 PM, ikari said:

And tbh p2w and f2p both should have same chances of winning and gettin good stuff

Then there would be no point spending money, and the game wouldn't be able to generate revenue.

On 2/23/2023 at 12:27 PM, ikari said:

this game is so unfair towards non-buyers can’t tell me otherwise. Have a nice day.

That's fine, I respect your opinion.

[ikari 42]

On 2/23/2023 at 12:35 PM, Maf said:

A F2P player who's smart about their spending thinks carefully about where to spend the tankoins, as opposed to wasting them away at the first opportunity. The token of apology was only a few months ago, so I'd expect smart F2P players to still have around 2000tk lying around.

a f2p player who's smart like me will save up for tanki fund or decent BP and won't participate in those hit or miss events where u have less chances of winning nice prizes aside supplies, thats what i'm doin, sorry to break it to you i'm not brainless thats what u wanna say i see.

[Nuclear 126]

A bit deceptive to put the picture from battery for the "X units of each supply" despite it not including that.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 2/23/2023 at 4:27 AM, ikari said:

First of all, yall going on circles sayin that devs gave thousands of tk for free, that was compensation for being unable to play TO 1 week+ 

If the game was stable throughout that period, many f2ps wouldn't have had anywhere near the amount of Tankoins they do now. Of course it would be brought up multiple times in the months after the occurrence. They effectively sponsored the next few events a large part of the playerbase.

Does this event seem like it's worth the effort for a random non-paying player? No, but they, like you, have a choice and then some to abstain from entering the event to instead choose something else in the future. That's a much better position than not being able to enter at all. 

 

[avengeful 111]

idk why so many people say that because you have lot of tankoins, you should just buy all the lame challenge passes that are created. sure we were given 3k+ and even bought tanki fund and dont have to really think about bp. but werent this given considering that? like do you really think that developers didnt know that we would be able to buy stuff with that? why they didnt simply gave us less tankoins if it was such a problem? And so what, you justify that just because devs gave away so much, now they should create challenges in a way that will devalue tankoins and asks you to waste tankoins that were given as compensation just because of that? like this challenge is complete waste and risk is so high that you most likely will lose out on it(not to mention how much grinding this challenge requires). in short they shouldnt have reduced value of tankoins and write it off as compensation, just because we were given lot of it doesnt mean we no longer should be able to buy what its worth.

[ikari 42]

On 2/23/2023 at 3:34 PM, avengeful said:

idk why so many people say that because you have lot of tankoins, you should just buy all the lame challenge passes that are created. sure we were given 3k+ and even bought tanki fund and dont have to really think about bp. but werent this given considering that? like do you really think that developers didnt know that we would be able to buy stuff with that? why they didnt simply gave us less tankoins if it was such a problem? And so what, you justify that just because devs gave away so much, now they should create challenges in a way that will devalue tankoins and asks you to waste tankoins that were given as compensation just because of that? like this challenge is complete waste and risk is so high that you most likely will lose out on it(not to mention how much grinding this challenge requires). in short they shouldnt have reduced value of tankoins and write it off as compensation, just because we were given lot of it doesnt mean we no longer should be able to buy what its worth.

omg u so real for that, that’s literally what I’m sayin, it’s too risky for non-buyers to participate in this event cuz loss is big. 

[TargetXAcquired 277]

On 2/23/2023 at 10:42 AM, TheCongoSpider said:

If the game was stable throughout that period, many f2ps wouldn't have had anywhere near the amount of Tankoins they do now. Of course it would be brought up multiple times in the months after the occurrence. They effectively sponsored the next few events a large part of the playerbase.

Does this event seem like it's worth the effort for a random non-paying player? No, but they, like you, have a choice and then some to abstain from entering the event to instead choose something else in the future. That's a much better position than not being able to enter at all. 

Ahh the voice of reason.

Abstain, good word that.

For all you players complaining about this. You can either A- not compete, or B- give it a go. These are the choices you have and these 2 choices are down to YOU not the devs.

Of course the devs have the player base well sussed, which is why they get away with everything they do. 

The devs encourage game play to make as much profit as they can. The trick they are missing is when they start to de-value certain in-game items like containers, they are now trash. Ranking to LEGEND now has no merit because of the paltry 1000 cry for doing so. Copy/pasting augments to every turret is also useless because now there are no unique turrets in the game as they can all do the same thing, which is why TO is now pathetic, not counting the TOTALLY USELESS matchmaking.

These mini-games do nothing but increase the lag because their servers just can't handle it and the devs do nothing to solve this problem, they only compound it.

When the devs finally wake up and smell the coffee and start acting on genuine player feedback concerning TO, then and only then will they have a game that is enjoyable and fair to buyers and f2p. As for the minigame, like most of them I will give it a hard pass.

[LoveDealer 46]

On 2/23/2023 at 10:30 AM, Maf said:

Plus, there's no total loss scenario, since you get some rewards either way, assuming you earn the stars required.

You would face a total loss scenario if your team were eliminated in round 1. 

On 2/23/2023 at 2:42 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

If the game was stable throughout that period, many f2ps wouldn't have had anywhere near the amount of Tankoins they do now. Of course it would be brought up multiple times in the months after the occurrence. They effectively sponsored the next few events a large part of the playerbase.

Does this event seem like it's worth the effort for a random non-paying player? No, but they, like you, have a choice and then some to abstain from entering the event to instead choose something else in the future. That's a much better position than not being able to enter at all. 

 

Are we going to conveniently forget that everyone lost access to ~2600 tankoins through the advent calendar this year? I guess we'll act like that never existed but keep mentioning the token of apology for the next half year to justify high entry fees. It's a shame really; this is a neat event but it's not worthwhile for the casual player/buyer. 

Edited February 23, 2023 by Maf
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[Maf 32,300]

On 2/23/2023 at 6:31 PM, LoveDealer said:

You would face a total loss scenario if your team were eliminated in round 1. 

Yup — you're right. I spent the past hour discussing it with various people because the event page doesn't make this so clear. Or, rather, the page makes it quite clear, but I found it hard to believe that the event would involve the possibility of buying an entry pass for 700tk and walking away with nothing other than the 6 paints.

It also means that if at any stage you grinded 50-200 stars and your team gets eliminated, you have to switch teams in order to avoid that effort going to waste.

Basically, if you're a big buyer with tankoins to spend, the best approach is to buy the bundle, get 200 stars every day, and then switch teams (for 9000tk) at the latest moment. You can take the risk and switch earlier, but that means there will be a chance that you'll still lose and have to pay more to claim the missing prizes.

Given the huge star amounts required to get rewards, for a F2P player I'd definitely skip this one.

On 2/23/2023 at 6:31 PM, LoveDealer said:

Are we going to conveniently forget that everyone lost access to ~2600 tankoins through the advent calendar this year?

I actually have no idea what you're talking about. How did people lose access to ~2600 tankoins?

[LoveDealer 46]

On 2/23/2023 at 9:46 AM, Maf said:

I actually have no idea what you're talking about. How did people lose access to ~2600 tankoins?

Last year, they offered super missions offering tankoins during New Years (2022), lunar new year (300) and iron days (300). It was win a battle a day to get it if i remember correctly. Obviously, there is never an obligation to continue something they did in the past, but I think it's still worth mentioning if we want to venture into hypotheticals, ex. "if the token of apology never happened", etc. 

[Nuclear 126]

On 2/23/2023 at 3:46 PM, Maf said:

 I spent the past hour discussing it with various people because the event page doesn't make this so clear.

I have some questions regarding the event, may you can answer it?

So, the first race will start on 24th of February and the main race will end on 26h.

In case of our team is not going to the elimination race, do we have only 2 days to gain stars for the 1st stage's rewards?
And the other scenario which is more interesting, if our team has to take part on the elimination race as well, then the stars what we've earned so far will be reset and we have to start from zero, or it will be added to stars earned so far?
Also, what happens if we change faction, the earned stars will be reset?

[Gabku 194]

On 2/22/2023 at 3:08 PM, XD_PRO said:

how it's pay to win? why everyone wants everything for free? it would be then unfair to buyers if they dont allow to buy stars. 

 

It is pay to win because THE WINNING TEAM is decided by the buyers! No f2p player can influence the race with 3 stars per 15 minutes if all it takes for a buyer to just click 2 buttons and get hundreds of stars. And no, it would not be unfair against buyers, since the whole game would revolve around players actually playing the game and not just kids like you buying their way to victory...maybe read the event rules before commenting something pathetic next time...

[Devoid 2,601]

On 2/23/2023 at 8:53 AM, LoveDealer said:

Last year, they offered super missions offering tankoins during New Years (2022), lunar new year (300) and iron days (300). It was win a battle a day to get it if i remember correctly. Obviously, there is never an obligation to continue something they did in the past, but I think it's still worth mentioning if we want to venture into hypotheticals, ex. "if the token of apology never happened", etc. 

They did that this past New Years celebrations too...Only difference was that the rewards were Ultra Containers instead of Tankoins, but it still existed.

[Gabku 194]

On 2/23/2023 at 7:30 AM, Maf said:

So you're just gonna casually forget that time devs gave away thousands of tankoins, allowing everyone to get tons of stuff (including Crisis and Armadillo) for free from the Tanki Fund?

 

 

So you're just gonna forget that they only gave that much as a **compensation** after the whole game was down for almost a month? It's not like we would have ever received anything like this if the game was working fine...smh

Edited February 23, 2023 by Gabku

[CocoleVG_tanki 40]

Another 700 tankcoins event? They want the coins from the token of apology back so badly good lord.
Eh, whatever, ain't giving up those 2K.

[LoveDealer 46]

On 2/23/2023 at 10:19 AM, Gabku said:

It is pay to win because THE WINNING TEAM is decided by the buyers! No f2p player can influence the race with 3 stars per 15 minutes if all it takes for a buyer to just click 2 buttons and get hundreds of stars. And no, it would not be unfair against buyers, since the whole game would revolve around players actually playing the game and not just kids like you buying their way to victory...maybe read the event rules before commenting something pathetic next time...

People just need to come to terms with the idea that this is a buyer exclusive event and just move on with their lives. The main prizes are just 3 augments on turrets which you may or may not even use.

 

Tanki isn't a charity and no amount of criticism will change that.  

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 2/23/2023 at 10:31 AM, LoveDealer said:

Are we going to conveniently forget that everyone lost access to ~2600 tankoins through the advent calendar this year?  

What are you talking about?

[ikari 42]

On 2/23/2023 at 7:43 PM, LoveDealer said:

People just need to come to terms with the idea that this is a buyer exclusive event and just move on with their lives. The main prizes are just 3 augments on turrets which you may or may not even use.

 

Tanki isn't a charity and no amount of criticism will change that.  

atp every event is buyer exclusive so u just straight up saying we non-buyers get used to it? that's the end? like we aren't supposed to get anything good from now on? and stop mentioning word ''charity'' u make me throw up!