v-log Tanki Online V-LOG: Episode 375

[Punked 44]

My biggest peeve with the upcoming change is how there's not really any good way of implementing this.
It's either they:
1) Make the hull augments available for 5000 tankoins, like the status immunities, which will piss people off, seeing as they already had those drone effects and will be forced to buy it all over again with the rarest game currency
2) Make it available in containers, essentially making it completely RNG based and with the chance you could end up with essentially useless augments, you'll never use (which is why they removed drone from containers again in the first place)
3) Make it reasonably priced for crystals (VERY unlikely, considering the decisions the devs have been making)
So yeah... this should be interesting to see how it pans out... Not looking forward to it really

Edited March 11, 2023 by Punked
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[Hypersomnia 1,695]

So we removed drones to make "the game more simple" but then we RE-ADD THE SAME ITEMS  in the form of AUGMENTS? This is the biggest Bruh moment in history.

 Also you just mentioned how OP it's going to be when you pair Miner with Saboteur. Or Lifeguard + camping. You just made the game MORE COMPLICATED to squeeze a couple of bucks 

[DeowayPL 8]

60% IS A JOKE

[CocoleVG_tanki 40]

Was my post about being a rat deleted? Whatever.

[Punked 44]

On 3/11/2023 at 4:56 AM, UnIeash said:

I know but we should be glad we even get any compensation so in this case i wouldnt even complain because we know how tanki treat their players.

 

Just the fact that that's how the playerbase feels about it goes to show how absolutely terrible this game's management is. How much longer will it be until we're fed up with the game? This whole thing is just stupid

[yuvraj007 302]

On 3/11/2023 at 12:34 PM, CHOWCHOWsniper said:

60% IS A JOKE

They give 1 container as rankup reward. What else can you expect from them?

[tank7 320]

@Opex-Rah From the vlog calculations it appears that you are giving 60% compensation for just upgrading (no-speed up's) lvl1-lvl20 drones. But what about the initial buying cost (lvl0 drone)? The 10 removed drones cost total 670,000 crystals to buy in the first place, at least give some compensation for it.

[Ghost 279]

On 3/11/2023 at 9:54 AM, UnIeash said:

Will we get crystals for batteries too?

No just for the drones which getting removed.

[Me0w_XP 523]

On 3/11/2023 at 3:54 AM, UnIeash said:

Will we get crystals for batteries too?

No, you'll be getting 1 of each supply for every battery you own.

[Ishrak 932]

Who is asking for 2 hull augment slots? I don't even have an immunity for my favorite hull yet lol. 

You can't use excuse of this will make things simple. To me it just sounds like people that are lucky with getting new hull augments can now use 2 drones at once, just that one uses extra supplies and other one doesn't? It is not simple and it is going to be frustrating to get them for the f2p (if you intend to resell them for tankoins or be container only). 

[CALANCAT_ElleseRose 51]

On 3/11/2023 at 6:58 PM, Ishrak said:

Who is asking for 2 hull augment slots? I don't even have an immunity for my favorite hull yet lol. 

You can't use excuse of this will make things simple. To me it just sounds like people that are lucky with getting new hull augments can now use 2 drones at once, just that one uses extra supplies and other one doesn't? It is not simple and it is going to be frustrating to get them for the f2p (if you intend to resell them for tankoins or be container only). 

It is tough to get a normal augment, how will we able to get the new ones. f2p players will leave the game forever.

this game will become more complex than before.

 

[TargetXAcquired 277]

On 3/11/2023 at 7:57 AM, Kimura said:

Also you just mentioned how OP it's going to be when you pair Miner with Saboteur. Or Lifeguard + camping. You just made the game MORE COMPLICATED to squeeze a couple of bucks 

Then after players have spent enough cash (fools) no doubt the augments will get nerfed. 

 

On 3/11/2023 at 8:34 AM, CHOWCHOWsniper said:

60% IS A JOKE

Considering the sky high prices they charge (regardless of the currency, cry, tankoins, etc) you are correct.

In defence of the devs they have probs worked it out just about right, but it doesn't detract from the fact that it should have been a higher %.  

[soviet.reunion 76]

WHAT??? what do you mean you only refund 60% because most players only spent 60% of the price to get the stuff?? Isn't spending less to get something worth more the whole point of the discounts during celebrations? ... like, getting something worth 100k for only 60k was what we liked about the events... What's the point of giving us something to celebrate an event and then erasing it afterwards. How are we supposed to enjoy future events if we know that it won't be permanent. 

[0179432 146]

On 3/10/2023 at 5:17 AM, Nuclear said:

Instead of your "calculation", you should have logged the spent money for the items

 

Makes too much sense.  Is this not possible, or is Tanki just going with the way to refund as few crystals as possible?

[galziv01 153]

Do you remember when paints contained protection modules and they separated the paints from the modules and the price of paints went way up?

Do you remember when instead of several protection modules bought together they changed that every protection module will be bought separately and players didn't get compensation for the modules they already had?

Do you remember the coinboxes that were a big ripoff to get money from players?

Do you remember that XT equipment was received and upgraded as a different equipment than the normal ones?

Any new thing costs more. I believe that new augments will be purchased using tankoins and not crystals like other hull augments. Once the few remaining drones are maxed, we will have a lot of crystals with nothing to spend them on.

 

Edited March 11, 2023 by galziv01

[Cleric 1,385]

I blame the stupidity of some of us here for this.

It is a simple game of supply and demand. Clearly, there are demands for these stupid augments even with the non-sensible price tag. Or this plan won't work. Remember that dude who spent 3k Euro just to get a drone cosmetic?

And if I were the Devs, I would do the same. It doesn't matter whether a product make sense as soon as there are dumb customers buying it

[Nuclear 126]

On 3/11/2023 at 11:47 PM, 0179432 said:

 

Makes too much sense.  Is this not possible, or is Tanki just going with the way to refund as few crystals as possible?

When a player buys something in the garage, it must be logged in the database, otherwise, they couldn't track our crystals.
The problem is that even if they're logging the items that we've purchased, it probably has an expiration date to remove the data because logging 10-20k players' data continuously can be very expensive.
 

I believe they have enough data to calculate how many crystals they should have paid back to us for the drones, they just skipped a lot of aspects or don't want to refund a lot of crystals for the players, because it's obvious that 600k crystal for a fully upgraded drone is nothing.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

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This is the real world.

Tanki would be sued for fraud (nerfing turrets that were purchased in the real world with real money) for pulling such stunts--if they weren't a russian game. If this was in north america--where it's actually a crime to fraud customers--they WOULD be sued.

 

If you knew that (let's say) Scorpion was going to get nerfed in the next update, would you buy it? Of course not.

That makes it fraud.

Also @Jeers4U, I do not see how the lead dev testing out new mechanics in live servers would be an act of "fraud".

And please do not pm me just to cause an arguement with me in the future.

[TANK-zyy 2]

I don't think it's a good update.

The game is interesting just because these drones.

If you really want to let the game be easy, then remove all the augments that add so many effects. It's really awful.

Remove the drones is just a new way to make money, I think.

[Punked 44]

What I love about this is that they're going to see all this backlash, then go read a few cherry-picked comments from their highest spenders saying how great this will be, to justify themselves...

[Jeers4U 665]

On 3/11/2023 at 7:19 PM, PirateSpider said:

Also @Jeers4U, I do not see how the lead dev testing out new mechanics in live servers would be an act of "fraud".

And please do not pm me just to cause an arguement with me in the future.

It is fraud because he has an unfair advantage over the other players in the arena--as identified by one of the players.

The topic was closed before i had a chance to reply to your post.

If you do not wish to converse via pm, then do not reply to me via pm.

[Cleric 1,385]

On 3/12/2023 at 9:48 AM, Punked said:

What I love about this is that they're going to see all this backlash, then go read a few cherry-picked comments from their highest spenders saying how great this will be, to justify themselves...

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If you're not paying for the product, then you're the product

I love this quote so much.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 3/11/2023 at 6:32 PM, Jeers4U said:

If you do not wish to converse via pm, then do not reply to me via pm.

I thought it was something I could quickly take down. Didn't realize it was gonna be more stubborn than that. Anyway.

On 3/11/2023 at 6:32 PM, Jeers4U said:

It is fraud because he has an unfair advantage over the other players in the arena--as identified by one of the players.

Its just a few battles he used it in so far. Or he's just doing some really heavy testing with it. I mean, sure it might seem a bit unfair, but again, its just a game.

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

On 3/11/2023 at 2:00 PM, tank7 said:

@Opex-Rah But what about the initial buying cost (lvl0 drone)? The 10 removed drones cost total 670,000 crystals to buy in the first place, at least give some compensation for it.

So true. What about this ? What about the crystals used to buy the Drones ? Now, you can get Drones from containers. But what about the old players (like me), that bougth all the Drones ? Where are the crystals ?

[SulfuricAcid 504]

what is the replacement of batteries epic container drops? I suggest adding a pack of supplies instead like 20 mines 20 BD 20 BA 20 SB and 50 repiarkit Pack. in sum 130 supplies pack

Edited March 12, 2023 by SulfuricAcid