event Summer eSports TankiFund 2023

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 6/28/2023 at 8:38 PM, Akame said:

However if this was a 20Mill event, with a bit more condensed reward set, it would have been a bit more visual.

I mean I guess this could work. But for the best possible outcome to happen here, the following have to occur:

• Remove the mono paints. This would bring it down to 39 tiers.

• increase the total number of UCs to 45 and condense them to take up only 3 spaces max. This would bring the fund down to 29 tiers.

• get rid of the 2 extra module slots. 1 module slot per fund is enough. This would bring the fund down to 27 tiers.

• we don't really need the +1mln tankoins to fund, so that can go. The fund would go down to 22 tiers.

• you could also make the 105 normal containers only take up 3 spaces (making each tier container 35 containers) thus freeing up 4 spaces. This would bring the fund down to 18 tiers. Now you'll have 2 spaces that don't have a reward.

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 6/28/2023 at 11:45 PM, Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL said:

Those triple +1 module slots. Well, that would be useful for newbies and many new players. WOULD BE. How much % of new players begin to spend money while the beginning of their gaming adventure

Even if you ignore this, how many players ACTUALLY KNOW ABOUT THE FUND? we have a "News" section in game but it's as useless as stun gauss. Not everyone is gonna scroll through forums or read chat to find out about the fund. Also even if you find "SUMMER ESPORTS TANKI FUND 2023" what are you gonna say? You gonna say "oh thats cool... i guess" and likely completely ignore it thinking its some fund for Esports players. The communication in this game is beyond horrible. 

 

On 6/28/2023 at 11:45 PM, Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL said:

I thought it was said that those augments make this game more complicated, still want more of them? You want this game more complicated?

Welcome to tanki where everyone is completely bias towards something and if you write even 1 word of constructive critism you'll be accused of defending devs or being a dev yourself lol. This behaviour should not surprise you at all.

On 6/29/2023 at 1:19 AM, CelestiaI said:

if we reach level 25 i think  the fund would get some momentum to get hunter GT at least (hopefully)

I hope it gains so much momentum that it skips Hunter GT

 

On 6/29/2023 at 6:38 AM, Akame said:

I agree with this, mono paints should have had a different unique palette at least, rather than some being identical to old common paints

So im the only one who actually likes them >

[yuvraj007 302]

We managed to do it. congrats

words you won't hear this time

 

Edited June 29, 2023 by yuvraj007

[Romantically 282]

On 6/29/2023 at 10:55 AM, Kimura said:

 

So im the only one who actually likes them >

I love them too! Yellow is fake Neon which I always wanted and It's like Spectrum but you get to choose one

[Cleric 1,385]

On 6/29/2023 at 4:55 PM, Kimura said:

So im the only one who actually likes them >

That's perfectly fine if anyone like it (I'm a big fan of the basic white paint).

But adding this in the fund as if it is actually worth that much? Well, that's just a whole new level.

Edited June 29, 2023 by Warpriest

[soviet.reunion 76]

Yes I agree, the first tanki fund I took part in was the one before this. 

 

Up until then everytime I saw them in news/announcements I just assumed it was an esports event so I never clicked it. 

 

I think it would be better if players could see the progress of tankifunds in the lobby, right underneath the challenge progress. and also talk about it in the bundles and the pictures of those bundles. so instead of just listing the 300 of each drug they should also say + participation in tanki fund (get tier rewards and chance to win tankoins)  and add the tankifund symbol to the picture with the drugs) 

Edited June 29, 2023 by soviet.reunion

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 6/29/2023 at 2:46 PM, Warpriest said:

That's perfectly fine if anyone like it (I'm a big fan of the basic white paint).

But adding this in the fund as if it is actually worth that much? Well, that's just a whole new level.

We'll have to wait and see. as long as theyre not just retextured 10 cry paint but actual "modern" version of 10 cry paints it is actually worth it. i mean they'll probably end up in epic tier and even if it ends up in blue or green i'd take it instead of 3 ultra conts that'll give me 300 mines.

[Showbot 819]

If we aint going to reach the skin container then at least stop taking part so those who took part have more chances of getting tankoins 

[Akame 4,578]

On 6/29/2023 at 8:12 AM, PirateSpider said:

I mean I guess this could work. But for the best possible outcome to happen here, the following have to occur:

• Remove the mono paints. This would bring it down to 39 tiers.

• increase the total number of UCs to 45 and condense them to take up only 3 spaces max. This would bring the fund down to 29 tiers.

• get rid of the 2 extra module slots. 1 module slot per fund is enough. This would bring the fund down to 27 tiers.

• we don't really need the +1mln tankoins to fund, so that can go. The fund would go down to 22 tiers.

• you could also make the 105 normal containers only take up 3 spaces (making each tier container 35 containers) thus freeing up 4 spaces. This would bring the fund down to 18 tiers. Now you'll have 2 spaces that don't have a reward.

Considering how much the current tkfund is already at, this would have been the far better approach, but tanki went experimenting on extremes for reasons unknown...

On 6/29/2023 at 9:55 AM, Kimura said:

 

 

So im the only one who actually likes them >

I personally don't mind them. It is just, a few of them are common paints 'renamed' into a different rarity. The concept is good, just wanted a better set of colours, plain paints go well with GT skins imo.

[SvinafellTroll 94]

On 6/29/2023 at 12:53 PM, Akame said:

Considering how much the current tkfund is already at, this would have been the far better approach, but tanki went experimenting on extremes for reasons unknown...

Power play. This fund was either not going to reach 30 million, or it was going to max out. There is no in between. As much as I dislike the prizes, the 30+ million rewards are appealing to some and it will gain momentum for the better rewards once it crosses 30 million. Lots of people are sitting on the sidelines to see if it's worth it or not (currently not worth it for f2p). 

[emrakul 7,801]

On 6/28/2023 at 10:45 PM, Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL said:

De facto, less participants = higher chances of winning Tankoins from draw

Wrong.

On 6/29/2023 at 5:38 AM, Akame said:

@emrakulDid anyone, or you, track the current fund by hour/day by chance? If so, would you be able to show us the general curve till now?

Not that I'm aware of.
Without any unexpected situations this fund will most likely end at 24m in my opinion. Sad, but what can we do. I'm still buying it on accounts which won in the past, following my "statistically free" approach. Or well... statistically 200 tk profit per fund.

[Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL 162]

On 6/29/2023 at 7:21 PM, emrakul said:

Wrong.

Prove it.

[emrakul 7,801]

On 6/29/2023 at 9:50 PM, Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL said:

Prove it.

Hehe.

Spoiler

Situation 1:

8 People buy 1 k bundle.
1 person wins.
12.5% chance to win. (1/8)

Situation 2:

8000 people buy 1k bundle.
1000 people win.

12.5% chance to win (omg no way??!?!)

Universally:

X people buy 1k bundle.
X/8 people win.
12.5% chance to win. ((X/8)/X)
 

Don't even dare to mention other bundles. The only thing that changes your chance to win is different ratio of bundles.

For example:
1000x small
1000x medium
1000x big

or

1000x small
500x medium
100x big

These 2 cases will result in different chance to win, but the ratio of purchased bundle types is not directly related to:

On 6/28/2023 at 10:45 PM, Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL said:

 

De facto, less participants = higher chances of winning Tankoins from draw (if you participate in this fund)  Maybe this time I'll be the lucky one (With my luck I can only

 

There are trends which might impact the ratio of purchased bundles and they coincidentally correlate with the number of small bundle purchases, however the final results is not just about how many participants there are.

For example if there is an insane fund and thousands of players get free token of apology, many purchase the small bundle, however, the number of medium and big buyers won't be increased and so the average chance decreases. If the fund participation is low, the number of big and medium buyers most likely won't change much (tho it might impact it too), however, the number of small bundle purchases will be much lower since players either hold onto their free token tankoins or have already ran out. This would increase the average chance to win. We are not speaking here about crazy double chance, just a few % increase, so unless you are believer in my "statistically free" theory, it won't change a lot for you. Still most likely a loss.

 

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 6/29/2023 at 12:50 PM, Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL said:

Prove it.

You know, its pretty hypocritical of you to tell others to prove you wrong when you haven't even proven your own claim to be true.

[Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL 162]

On 6/30/2023 at 1:20 AM, PirateSpider said:

You know, its pretty hypocritical of you to tell others to prove you wrong when you haven't even proven your own claim to be true.

You know, it's pretty sad that someone writes that I was wrong and that's it, without further justification without asking for it. Well, but the administration's suck-ups don't notice such things. Also, If I would write my own claim that would be wrong, you and many other people would react with laughing emoji and/or write "bro what kind of foolishness you write?" "HAHAHAHAHAHA" "That guy needs to go back to school." "Bruh " "Lol no". Now it's you who insist that it wouldn't be like that, now you can write such conjectures. If you thought you were smarter than me, you're wrong. I'm not that guy who can be easily fooled.

On 6/30/2023 at 12:32 AM, emrakul said:

Hehe.

  Hide contents

Situation 1:

8 People buy 1 k bundle.
1 person wins.
12.5% chance to win. (1/8)

Situation 2:

8000 people buy 1k bundle.
1000 people win.

12.5% chance to win (omg no way??!?!)

Universally:

X people buy 1k bundle.
X/8 people win.
12.5% chance to win. ((X/8)/X)
 

Don't even dare to mention other bundles. The only thing that changes your chance to win is different ratio of bundles.

For example:
1000x small
1000x medium
1000x big

or

1000x small
500x medium
100x big

These 2 cases will result in different chance to win, but the ratio of purchased bundle types is not directly related to:

There are trends which might impact the ratio of purchased bundles and they coincidentally correlate with the number of small bundle purchases, however the final results is not just about how many participants there are.

For example if there is an insane fund and thousands of players get free token of apology, many purchase the small bundle, however, the number of medium and big buyers won't be increased and so the average chance decreases. If the fund participation is low, the number of big and medium buyers most likely won't change much (tho it might impact it too), however, the number of small bundle purchases will be much lower since players either hold onto their free token tankoins or have already ran out. This would increase the average chance to win. We are not speaking here about crazy double chance, just a few % increase, so unless you are believer in my "statistically free" theory, it won't change a lot for you. Still most likely a loss.

 

Thanks for a good argument. But I don't understand why you didn't write that after replying to me that I'm wrong. Could you tell me why?

[emrakul 7,801]

On 7/2/2023 at 4:41 PM, Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL said:

You know, it's pretty sad that someone writes that I was wrong and that's it, without further justification without asking for it.

The fact that chance to win is independent from the number of purchased bundles is one of the key "mechanics" of most, if not all funds so far (maybe the first few were different). You are not new in tanki and also active on forum, this has been mentions many times and even if you didn't see any of those posts, the mechanic is really self-explanatory. That annoys me the most. You should be aware of what you are writing and not spread incorrect, potentially misleading information. You didn't do it on purpose, but you still did.

On 7/2/2023 at 4:41 PM, Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL said:

Well, but the administration's suck-ups don't notice such things.

Well if there was anything they didn't notice, it was your false claim

 

I didn't pay too much attention to the fund recently, but we are almost at ANOTHER set of 3 ultra containers. And the next million is smoky pulsar, nice... or well...

[Eon 111]

Servers seem better for me are they going to release TOA? If they release that could help the fund

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 7/2/2023 at 7:41 AM, Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL said:

You know, it's pretty sad that someone writes that I was wrong and that's it, without further justification without asking for it. Well, but the administration's suck-ups don't notice such things

You could've of just proven your own claim, and then tell them to prove you wrong. Not just a few vague words.

On 7/2/2023 at 7:41 AM, Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL said:

Also, If I would write my own claim that would be wrong, you and many other people would react with laughing emoji and/or write "bro what kind of foolishness you write?" "HAHAHAHAHAHA" "That guy needs to go back to school." "Bruh " "Lol no". Now it's you who insist that it wouldn't be like that, now you can write such conjectures.

I'm not gonna deny that this does happen. I still think its a good idea to prove your claim regardless. The outcome though depends on how you prove it.

You don't wanna be this example though:

A debate about what color the day time sky really is on a sunny day. You say " blue". And then you say "because our eyes wants us to see it as blue".

On 7/2/2023 at 7:41 AM, Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL said:

If you thought you were smarter than me, you're wrong. I'm not that guy who can be easily fooled.

I never said that though?

[yuvraj007 302]

18M (previous fund): 4 exotic augments, 5 skins, crisis, armadillo, 1 protection module

18M (current fund): 1 skin, +1 million to the fund, 1 protection module

 

 

[Worldwild 4]

I have come to a clear conclusion. My time in tanki decreases more and more and this beautiful game is not as beautiful as it was before, I was thinking of not supporting the fund with any of my accounts. Now that I think about it... I'm going to buy the packs to participate in the pool because they may be some of the last rewards that I enjoy with my tanki friends. There are not the best rewards, but not always a pirate finds gold and still keeps trying ! Next time could be better but, how are we sure that there will be a next one? I don't want to be that kind of player who is only there for the game when big things happen. You will not always receive a video game console or a trip to another country as a gift, sometimes the gift can be something simple like a sweet, a hug or a letter and even so we should be grateful. I will support this fund to the fullest! I don't care about the result, if I'm there when there's a lot, I'll also be there when there's little. 

[Atomic_Tanker 249]

im too broke to buy this fund.. (87 TK short ). Kinda sad that it didnt reach as far as expected due to "disappointing" rewards (if it had reached 50 mil then this fund would have been insanely worth it.. but oh well)
here's to the next fund being miles better. cheers!

[Romantically 282]

On 7/2/2023 at 9:58 PM, yuvraj007 said:

18M (previous fund): 4 exotic augments, 5 skins, crisis, armadillo, 1 protection module

Maybe the problem is that the players are too spoiled (not mentioning the fact Crisis n Arma was in fund 3 weeks ago

[bigman_beatbox 12]

On 7/3/2023 at 2:10 PM, Provence said:

Maybe the problem is that the players are too spoiled (not mentioning the fact Crisis n Arma was in fund 3 weeks ago

Agreed, if this ends up being the last fund, I wouldn't even be surprised

   people complained when there were too many old rewards in a fund with, 6 skins ( 2 new gt), 5 pulsar augments ( 1 new¿), and when they bring new stuff, less valuable, people ditch it

     I can't blame them, but at the same time, what do you expect alternativa devs to do, give everyone everything for 1k tankoins? Funds are the most efficient way to spend tc, whether this is the last fund or not, I highly doubt new funds will be more valuable, especially if they're trying to make that new pass thing work.

[Cleric 1,385]

On 7/3/2023 at 8:28 PM, bigman_beatbox said:

Agreed, if this ends up being the last fund, I wouldn't even be surprised

   people complained when there were too many old rewards in a fund with, 6 skins ( 2 new gt), 5 pulsar augments ( 1 new¿), and when they bring new stuff, less valuable, people ditch it

     I can't blame them, but at the same time, what do you expect alternativa devs to do, give everyone everything for 1k tankoins? Funds are the most efficient way to spend tc, whether this is the last fund or not, I highly doubt new funds will be more valuable, especially if they're trying to make that new pass thing work.

Imagine the rewards of these two funds are equally distributed. That will make much more sense, isn't it?

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 7/3/2023 at 5:28 AM, bigman_beatbox said:

Agreed, if this ends up being the last fund, I wouldn't even be surprised

   people complained when there were too many old rewards in a fund with, 6 skins ( 2 new gt), 5 pulsar augments ( 1 new¿), and when they bring new stuff, less valuable, people ditch it

     I can't blame them, but at the same time, what do you expect alternativa devs to do, give everyone everything for 1k tankoins? Funds are the most efficient way to spend tc, whether this is the last fund or not, I highly doubt new funds will be more valuable, especially if they're trying to make that new pass thing work.

Instead of 5 pulsars or 11 mono paints or 6 skins where half of them were legacies I just want variety.

 

For 5 augments, this should've happened instead:

1 pulsar, 1 random augment that inflicts one status effect, and the rest have interesting mechanics.

 

For 11 paints, this should've happened instead:

4 mono paints, 4 epic category paints, 3 animated paints.

 

For 6 skins, this should've happened instead:

1 GT combo, 1 legacy combo, 1 xt combo.