esports Winter eSports TankiFund 2023

[yuvraj007 302]

On 11/21/2023 at 7:58 AM, Biome said:

I wonder why the devs scared to use a public randomizer and use some random thing that they created. I have every reason to believe it is rigged and personally I don't know any f2p who actually won  the lottery from tanki fund.

Don't be surprised if 75% of winners are targeted for future sales purposes.

Nothing is regulated in this game.

[SeiiTaishogun 16]

Not sure why people are so down about the fund.  Looks pretty good to me:

Chance to win around 8000 or so tankoins from the draw

Gauss/Magnum/Shaft pulsar

105 Nuclear energy

225 standard containers

115 ultra containers

45 weekly containers = 360 tankoins / 225k crystals / 4500 of each supply

2 skin containers

Gauss/Hunter/Freeze GT skins

 

 

Edited November 21, 2023 by SeiiTaishogun

[ZAINWAJIH 72]

On 11/21/2023 at 2:12 PM, SeiiTaishogun said:

Not sure why people are so down about the fund.  Looks pretty good to me:

Chance to win around 8000 or so tankoins from the draw

Gauss/Magnum/Shaft pulsar

105 Nuclear energy

225 standard containers

115 ultra containers

45 weekly containers = 360 tankoins / 225k crystals / 4500 of each supply

2 skin containers

Gauss/Hunter/Freeze GT skins

 

 

are you sure this fund will reach 50 level? lol

it will not reach even 20 level 

and 990 coins for useless paints and 2 nuclear and 30 normal containors , 6 weekly and 10 ultra containors and 2 useless skins lol

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 11/21/2023 at 8:23 AM, SvinafellTroll said:

I wonder why the devs scared to use a public randomizer and use some random thing that they created. I have every reason to believe it is rigged and personally I don't know any f2p who actually won  the lottery from tanki fund. Now I am just saying that part but if there is a good fund with unique augments i would be equally happy with not winning so I hope tanki can actually put some augments they addded but havent gave us a chance to get like hyperspeed augs.

Well my friend is F2P and he won 2/3 funds. Then another one that spent like 40 bucks in 10 years won 1 out of the last 3. I spend on daily tankoin passes and spent maybe around a 1000$+ in 10 years and maybe 500$ish on this account. I won 2/5 funds. Idk seems fair to me. Hell just google and chance randomizer thing and set your chances to 20% and try to pull the 20% chance. Now each click takes you 6 months. Sure losing sucks balls but it doesn't seem that rigged.

 

On 11/21/2023 at 10:02 AM, yuvraj007 said:

Don't be surprised if 75% of winners are targeted for future sales purposes.

Don't be surprised that 75% of people who bought tanki fund are buyers because F2P players were smart and skipped this monstrocity of a fund for them. So 75% of the future salesman are going to get the 8k tankoins

 

On 11/21/2023 at 11:12 AM, SeiiTaishogun said:

Not sure why people are so down about the fund.  Looks pretty good to me

50 tiers make no sense. Tanki says its because ppl suddenly liked the fund a lot (wonder why... cough cough token of apology). It should've been 20.

The rewards for the most part are horrible. 10 crystal paints hidden behind a fund wall is crazy.

If we'd reach 50 tiers the fund would actually be better than the "good" ones with augments. You get 100+ ultras and your chances of good augment that won't get nerfed instantly due to everyone having it are pretty high. Idk about yall but i'd rather have a chance to get a good augment that'll barely get nerfed after months (if not never) than something guaranteed that'll for sure get nerfed to the ground in the next 2 weeks.

[emrakul 7,801]

On 11/20/2023 at 8:27 PM, MEXICAN-SKY said:

What about the MILLIONS of crystals needed to upgrade turrets/hulls and the overpriced protections. I'm going on about the lower ranks of course and those higher ranks who rank far to quickly and have below standard protections for their rank.   

This game has went up in price by a huge factor, while the actual game play has went down hill by a huge factor.

Introducing a pricing system for the next module via TK is the first small step for yet another rip off, especially against the F2P.

We were talking about tankoins price for modifications. We didn't mention crystals a single time. Crystals are completely unrelated and issues with players ranking up too quickly to earn enough crystals for micro upgrades are for another discussion. If you are casual player who probably doesn't know much about economy and how to manage crystals, the game would feel equally p2w and unfair for you at any point in its history. On the other hand, if you optimize crystal management to the finest detail, there's a decent chance players will call you a buyer because they won't believe you achieved it for free.

Yes, tankoins made it more difficult, but usually, tankoins give you access to new exclusive content early. Often, you don't need those items anyway, you'll obtain them eventually.

On 11/20/2023 at 8:27 PM, MEXICAN-SKY said:

 @Limanda is not wrong. As a helper, just like the you tube lot, you get freebies all the time.

The "plebs"  make do with the little they can get, which is not very much in this P2W cash grab game. 

I have explained this in the earlier post, you read one of them, but not the others. I'd recommend checking them,
I'm talking about f2p players, who only earn tankoins by playing the game.

On 11/20/2023 at 9:50 PM, Limanda said:

This is not an accusation, but do we have reason to trust that this lottery is done fair and square? Sure I've seen lists of winners in the pasts, but they were just Bills and Bobs to me (and I have never been one of them).

It's on-brand, customized for the demanded purpose and I assume it's easier to create own app than to make sure you don't accidentally end up with some legal issues because you used something you shouldn't.
Also, based on my experimental data sample, I had ~16.9% winrate on last fund, across mostly free to play accounts which had tankoins from token of apology. The actual chance to win was 15.4%, which is surprisingly accurate considering how little was the sample.
Obviously you can never be sure, but in this case I don't see a reason why it shouldn't be fair.

[Gabku 194]

On 11/19/2023 at 10:31 PM, Zurya said:

and in any 1v1 im going to win

and in any mode that isnt TDM i'll be winning

i wont change my stance on magnum, you wont either. 

agree to disagree

cheers

You wish you could win against me XD

[Gabku 194]

On 11/20/2023 at 3:53 AM, SvinafellTroll said:

From the mindset of someone who has only 1500 tankoins, and earns 1500 a year, you don't spend tankoins on junk that you don't even want, even if it's "statistically free".

And where exactly did you get 1500 per year?

There are 2 challenges each month so that's 200 per month, 1 year is then 12x200 which is 2400, already almost double of what you pulled out of who knows where.

You get 3 weekly containers each week, that's 24 tankoins. There are 52 weeks in a year, 52x24 is 1248.

So 2400+1248 is 3648 tankoins a year.. PLUS the X amount tanki randomly gives you in events and such, could in a year get you another 1k.

If I remember correctly there is usually 3-4 tanki funds a year and the smallest bundle is always around 1k...basically you earn just enough each year to buy into every tanki fund and you will even have some tankoins left after.

And don't say that this is only true for people who play all day long...you literally just need to play at max 30 minutes a day to finish the daily missions, and if you are good at the game then it is way less than that.

If anything you should be grateful tanki creates funds this many times a year, this is basically the best (and kinda only) event where you can spend little amounts of tankoins at a time, most other events either require extreme luck or spending huge amounts of money just to get 1/4th of the stuff a single fund gives you..AND they cost MORE!

And let's mention that the fund is the only event where you can get your tankoins back 7-8 fold...

And if we do not reach lvl 50 that's all the fault of people like you who dont't wanna buy it because "it won't reach the final prize" My man of course it will not reach the end if the majority of players are acting like you. It would take only 45k of people to buy the 1k bundle for us to reach lvl 50, that is probably cut in half by the buyers who buy all the bundles multiple times on multiple accounts. I HIGHLY doubt there aren't 20k people with 1k tankoins, if ya'll would buy into the fund righ now, we will have it finished by next morning...

Spread the word, buy the fund!!

[SeiiTaishogun 16]

On 11/21/2023 at 2:56 AM, ZAINWAJIH said:

are you sure this fund will reach 50 level? lol

it will not reach even 20 level 

and 990 coins for useless paints and 2 nuclear and 30 normal containors , 6 weekly and 10 ultra containors and 2 useless skins lol

And a chance at about 8000 tankoins

It would reach level 50 if people weren't so picky by deciding they don't like the prizes

Edited November 21, 2023 by SeiiTaishogun

[ZAINWAJIH 72]

On 11/21/2023 at 8:45 PM, SeiiTaishogun said:

And a chance at about 8000 tankoins

It would reach level 50 if people weren't so picky by deciding they don't like the prizes

8000 tankcoins is very little chance .

and it will not reach level 50 , it reached 68M once when they had given compensation last year so no chance of reaching level 50 this time

pulsar augments are at 30+ levels

nothing much attractive in fist 30 levels 

Edited November 21, 2023 by ZAINWAJIH

[ReisVerbal 42]

On 21/11/2023 at 00:58, Biome said:

Eu me pergunto por que os desenvolvedores têm medo de usar um randomizador público e alguma coisa aleatória que eles criaram. Tenho todos os motivos para acreditar que é fraudado e pessoalmente não conheço nenhum f2p que realmente ganhou na loteria do fundo tanki. Agora, estou apenas dizendo essa parte, mas se houver um bom fundo com aumentos exclusivos, eu ficaria igualmente feliz em não ganhar, então espero que Tanki possa realmente colocar alguns aumentos que eles adicionaram, mas não nos deram a chance de obter agostos de hipervelocidade.

 

isso foi um bug ou algo assim que eu tive ontem e hoje desapareceu

I won twice with the lowest account and I have 16k tankoins on it.

I was very lucky, I already won a Viking GT in a container, 1 million crystals twice.

I don't earn anything on the main account haha

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 11/21/2023 at 7:45 AM, SeiiTaishogun said:

It would reach level 50 if people weren't so picky by deciding they don't like the prizes

I don't think its the prizes. Its the number of tiers that are the problem. Its just too much. Even if everyone pitched in, it wont be enough.

 

Only way we're gonna reach 50 tiers is if the devs already done at least half the progress for us. (and we all know the chances of that ever happening).

[SeiiTaishogun 16]

On 11/21/2023 at 8:01 AM, ZAINWAJIH said:

8000 tankcoins is very little chance .

and it will not reach level 50 , it reached 68M once when they had given compensation last year so no chance of reaching level 50 this time

pulsar augments are at 30+ levels

nothing much attractive in fist 30 levels 

Even if it only gets to level 20 like you predict, is there a better value to spend takoins on than the tanki fund?  I'd rather buy the tanki fund than the battle pass considering there's a chance at being one of the winners to get 8K tankoins....

[Macabre 207]

I'd be more than happy to participate in the ongoing fund but there's no guarantee others will do as well lol

Edited November 21, 2023 by Macabre

[krokorok 837]

On 11/21/2023 at 9:20 PM, SeiiTaishogun said:

Even if it only gets to level 20 like you predict, is there a better value to spend takoins on than the tanki fund?  I'd rather buy the tanki fund than the battle pass considering there's a chance at being one of the winners to get 8K tankoins....

Lemme try to explain the mentality of why certain people wont really participate, or at least why they will sit on their tankoins for some time until the fund gets to the point where they are confident getting something they consider of value.

Even if this fund has the best value, f2p people have limited resources throughout the year. Someone already calculated here how much tankoins you can get per year. That number may give you an impression that people theoretically have a lot of tankoins at disposure, but the reality is, there are many other events and battle passes that require expenditure of tankoins. The other important thing is that not everyone plays the game religiously everyday or every week or even every month to receive the maximum amount of tankoins possible. Since this is the case, a lot of people end up with insufficient funds or with amount that makes them question whether the participation in this fund is worthwile.

Another important fact to consider here is that the preferences and values which players assign to the prizes differ with each participant/player. For example, for you getting to the 20th level might already be a win situation, because you assign certain value to the things present on those levels. But then, there are endgame players like myself that have very different value scale. Eleven paints as a prize to me has exactly 0 value because I already own 100+ better looking paints. I have all the module slots, so I dont get anything from that. I have better looking skins than the GTs and so they will just idle in my garage. I also assign far lower value to containers  because I already emptied majority of the prize pool, and so they are just pointless supplies and crystals which I have quite enough already. So while for you 20 tiers is an incredible value, for someone else the real value may be up from the 35th or even 40th level. Obviously, these higher levels have far lower likelyhood of being achieved, and so players will withold participation because they dont have a guarantee of getting to the levels they desire.

This leads me to my final point. You must consider that getting something (a guarantee) and potentially getting something (a possibility) are two very different things. This is why even in a real world, you will not see everyone headlessly participating in casino like loterries, because these do not guarantee getting certain countervalue for your spending. Players, especially f2p, consider tankoins something as a real world currency. When they spend something that they have limited amount of, they expect and demand a certain countervalue that they are guaranteed to get. If they are not guaranteed this countervalue, they are risking overspending and wasting the precious currency that could have been used on better present or future offers. This is further exacurbated by their bad past experiences, when they spend and put fate in certain possibilities and failed at getting them, often multiple times.

Edited November 21, 2023 by krokorok

[SeiiTaishogun 16]

On 11/21/2023 at 1:50 PM, krokorok said:

Lemme try to explain the mentality of why certain people wont really participate, or at least why they will sit on their tankoins for some time until the fund gets to the point where they are confident getting something they consider of value.

Even if this fund has the best value, f2p people have limited resources throughout the year. Someone already calculated here how much tankoins you can get per year. That number may give you an impression that people theoretically have a lot of tankoins at disposure, but the reality is, there are many other events and battle passes that require expenditure of tankoins. The other important thing is that not everyone plays the game religiously everyday or every week or even every month to receive the maximum amount of tankoins possible. Since this is the case, a lot of people end up with insufficient funds or with amount that makes them question whether the participation in this fund is worthwile.

Another important fact to consider here is that the preferences and values which players assign to the prizes differ with each participant/player. For example, for you getting to the 20th level might already be a win situation, because you assign certain value to the things present on those levels. But then, there are endgame players like myself that have very different value scale. Eleven paints as a prize to me has exactly 0 value because I already own 100+ better looking paints. I have all the module slots, so I dont get anything from that. I have better looking skins than the GTs and so they will just idle in my garage. I also assign far lower value to containers  because I already emptied majority of the prize pool, and so they are just pointless supplies and crystals which I have quite enough already. So while for you 20 tiers is an incredible value, for someone else the real value may be up from the 35th or even 40th level. Obviously, these higher levels have far lower likelyhood of being achieved, and so players will withold participation because they dont have a guarantee of getting to the levels they desire.

This leads me to my final point. You must consider that getting something (a guarantee) and potentially getting something (a possibility) are two very different things. This is why even in a real world, you will not see everyone headlessly participating in casino like loterries, because these do not guarantee getting certain countervalue for your spending. Players, especially f2p, consider tankoins something as a real world currency. When they spend something that they have limited amount of, they expect and demand a certain countervalue that they are guaranteed to get. If they are not guaranteed this countervalue, they are risking overspending and wasting the precious currency that could have been used on better present or future offers. This is further exacurbated by their bad past experiences, when they spend and put fate in certain possibilities and failed at getting them, often multiple times.

Seems like most have incredibly high standards when it comes to tanki funds because of how stacked they used to be.  Even if we only get to level 20, I don't know of any other way to make better use of your tankoins, unless you value standard containers more than the possibility of winning 8k tankoins+getting 50 tankoins from the 6 weekly containers, then you'd probably want the battle pass.

Edited November 21, 2023 by SeiiTaishogun

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 11/21/2023 at 3:41 PM, SeiiTaishogun said:

Seems like most have incredibly high standards when it comes to tanki funds because of how stacked they used to be. 

I mean when you have people (even the most respected tankers) overhyping the tanki funds, then it'd be understandable to have high standards for it.

[Limanda 45]

On 11/21/2023 at 10:50 PM, krokorok said:

Lemme try to explain the mentality of why certain people wont really participate, or at least why they will sit on their tankoins for some time until the fund gets to the point where they are confident getting something they consider of value.

Even if this fund has the best value, f2p people have limited resources throughout the year. Someone already calculated here how much tankoins you can get per year. That number may give you an impression that people theoretically have a lot of tankoins at disposure, but the reality is, there are many other events and battle passes that require expenditure of tankoins. The other important thing is that not everyone plays the game religiously everyday or every week or even every month to receive the maximum amount of tankoins possible. Since this is the case, a lot of people end up with insufficient funds or with amount that makes them question whether the participation in this fund is worthwile.

Another important fact to consider here is that the preferences and values which players assign to the prizes differ with each participant/player. For example, for you getting to the 20th level might already be a win situation, because you assign certain value to the things present on those levels. But then, there are endgame players like myself that have very different value scale. Eleven paints as a prize to me has exactly 0 value because I already own 100+ better looking paints. I have all the module slots, so I dont get anything from that. I have better looking skins than the GTs and so they will just idle in my garage. I also assign far lower value to containers  because I already emptied majority of the prize pool, and so they are just pointless supplies and crystals which I have quite enough already. So while for you 20 tiers is an incredible value, for someone else the real value may be up from the 35th or even 40th level. Obviously, these higher levels have far lower likelyhood of being achieved, and so players will withold participation because they dont have a guarantee of getting to the levels they desire.

This leads me to my final point. You must consider that getting something (a guarantee) and potentially getting something (a possibility) are two very different things. This is why even in a real world, you will not see everyone headlessly participating in casino like loterries, because these do not guarantee getting certain countervalue for your spending. Players, especially f2p, consider tankoins something as a real world currency. When they spend something that they have limited amount of, they expect and demand a certain countervalue that they are guaranteed to get. If they are not guaranteed this countervalue, they are risking overspending and wasting the precious currency that could have been used on better present or future offers. This is further exacurbated by their bad past experiences, when they spend and put fate in certain possibilities and failed at getting them, often multiple times.

Well written, @krokorok.  The idea of playing 30 min every day to access all weekly and event rewards is pure fantasy to most players. Personally I dislike this kind of daily grind strongly, it takes away the joy and creates fatigue. This includes mini-games, such as the lollipop hunt with the same missions every damn day for weeks. Like… this is not my job.

I will try to maximize rewards when I do play, but only within the confines of having fun, and at my own leisure. Usually this means passing on a lot of “possible rewards”. And also now I need my few tankoins for upgrading my garage!

[SvinafellTroll 94]

On 11/21/2023 at 10:43 AM, Gabku said:

And where exactly did you get 1500 per year?

There are 2 challenges each month so that's 200 per month, 1 year is then 12x200 which is 2400, already almost double of what you pulled out of who knows where.

 

Not everyone plays this game as religiously as you and the other 6 people who liked your post do (but thanks for keeping the game alive i guess). The game is boring. I have to sit through 3 battles where at least 1 (if not all of them) are poorly balanced. 

 

Just look at the challenge itself:

15 (days) x 15 (stars) = 225 stars

2 (weeks) x 27 (weekly stars) = 54

2 (ultra weekends) x 15 (ultra weekend stars) = 30

Total = 309 [you can pull forward/backwards a weekly mission set of 27 stars to get 336 total]

 

All I have to do is miss 3 or more daily mission sets and I have to grind extra battles (which I'm in no mood for). 

I'm sorry but I have a life. I don't have 40 minutes everyday to play a tank games that has been neglected by its devs. 

 

On 11/21/2023 at 10:43 AM, Gabku said:

And if we do not reach lvl 50 that's all the fault of people like you who dont't wanna buy it because "it won't reach the final prize" My man of course it will not reach the end if the majority of players are acting like you. It would take only 45k of people to buy the 1k bundle for us to reach lvl 50, that is probably cut in half by the buyers who buy all the bundles multiple times on multiple accounts. I HIGHLY doubt there aren't 20k people with 1k tankoins, if ya'll would buy into the fund righ now, we will have it finished by next morning...

Spread the word, buy the fund!!

This right here is the epitome of why this game will never get better.  The devs make a trash event with trash rewards, yet the players are blind. So, who does half the player base blame for the guaranteed abysmal finish to the fund? Yes you guessed it, the players get the blame! Instead of the devs who are greedy and offer things of trash values, the players get the blame. 

 

Unfortunately, the blind players are not only blind but they are also delusional. There aren't even 45k active players with 1k tankoins. keep dreaming bud. Enjoy your ultra-exclusive mono paints. I couldn't care less if they didnt exist. 

[ZAINWAJIH 72]

On 11/22/2023 at 1:20 AM, SeiiTaishogun said:

Even if it only gets to level 20 like you predict, is there a better value to spend takoins on than the tanki fund?  I'd rather buy the tanki fund than the battle pass considering there's a chance at being one of the winners to get 8K tankoins....

i will say wait for next fund , maybe devs decrease levels to 30 cuz 50 is too much 

if someone has 1100 tankoins and then he also participated in this fund , then he will not participate in next fund cuz of lack of tankcoins , yeh battlepass is not good nowadays 

Edited November 22, 2023 by ZAINWAJIH

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

I still don't understad why this crap game doesn't compensate us with other rewards. I have all modules, I have the same paints, I have the same augments, I have the same skins... Well, give me something else you crap game. There are other 9999999 games that give us something else if we have the same thing. But not Greedy Tanki Crap Online.

[SeiiTaishogun 16]

On 11/21/2023 at 9:03 PM, ZAINWAJIH said:

i will say wait for next fund , maybe devs decrease levels to 30 cuz 50 is too much 

if someone has 1100 tankoins and then he also participated in this fund , then he will not participate in next fund cuz of lack of tankcoins , yeh battlepass is not good nowadays 

Good point, I'd probably wait for the next fund too incase they decreased the amount of levels if I only had that amount of tankoins.  Personally I don't have to worry about that because I was one of the winners on the last draw and got 7 or 8k tankoins, and am now sitting on 12k total .  But you should be able to get at least some of your tankoins back out of the weekly containers in this fund as well.

 

Edited November 22, 2023 by SeiiTaishogun

[ZAINWAJIH 72]

On 11/22/2023 at 5:05 PM, SeiiTaishogun said:

Good point, I'd probably wait for the next fund too incase they decreased the amount of levels if I only had that amount of tankoins.  Personally I don't have to worry about that because I was one of the winners on the last draw and got 7 or 8k tankoins, and am now sitting on 12k total .  But you should be able to get at least some of your tankoins back out of the weekly containers in this fund as well.

 

nice , i also won 7200 last time , and  i have 8k coins cuz i spent 1900 for freeze pulsar . hope so they will decrease levels , 50 is just too much

[Akame 4,577]

On 11/22/2023 at 5:56 AM, x_Sorinel_x said:

I still don't understad why this crap game doesn't compensate us with other rewards. I have all modules, I have the same paints, I have the same augments, I have the same skins... Well, give me something else you crap game. There are other 9999999 games that give us something else if we have the same thing. But not Greedy Tanki Crap Online.

There are repeatable rewards for new gen players basically and those who missed older funds. It's kinda funny that they don't have armadillo and crisis in this one though.

[Zurya 76]

On 11/21/2023 at 7:29 PM, SvinafellTroll said:

Not everyone plays this game as religiously as you and the other 6 people who liked your post do (but thanks for keeping the game alive i guess). The game is boring. I have to sit through 3 battles where at least 1 (if not all of them) are poorly balanced. 

 

Just look at the challenge itself:

15 (days) x 15 (stars) = 225 stars

2 (weeks) x 27 (weekly stars) = 54

2 (ultra weekends) x 15 (ultra weekend stars) = 30

Total = 309 [you can pull forward/backwards a weekly mission set of 27 stars to get 336 total]

 

All I have to do is miss 3 or more daily mission sets and I have to grind extra battles (which I'm in no mood for). 

I'm sorry but I have a life. I don't have 40 minutes everyday to play a tank games that has been neglected by its devs. 

 

This right here is the epitome of why this game will never get better.  The devs make a trash event with trash rewards, yet the players are blind. So, who does half the player base blame for the guaranteed abysmal finish to the fund? Yes you guessed it, the players get the blame! Instead of the devs who are greedy and offer things of trash values, the players get the blame. 

 

Unfortunately, the blind players are not only blind but they are also delusional. There aren't even 45k active players with 1k tankoins. keep dreaming bud. Enjoy your ultra-exclusive mono paints. I couldn't care less if they didnt exist. 

Bro just finished off the pro funders. No more need to discuss guys. Completely agree with you.

Best potential rewards:

tankoins (if lucky)

bunch of containers (depending on your luck might get something good or just trash)

skins/paints are subjective and will not give universal satisfaction. Mono paints are less attractive than my mom and that’s saying something.

Buying the fund is different than loving the fund. I’m going to buy it for a chance to get lucky but I find this fund mid (i also have nothing better to use my TK atm). It’s one thing to encourage players to buy into the fund to get those better rewards at the end but another if your seriously gonna defend the fund and say it’s not underwhelming than your just blind.

 

Edited November 22, 2023 by Zurya

[BOMBARDUX 18]

Sorry for the question, but to get all the rewards of this find do I have to buy all three of the proposed offers or just one of them?