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On 5/13/2024 at 1:23 AM, PirateSpider said:

 

I really wouldnt be surprised if tanki went to the "pay $1.99 for an hour of gameplay" route.

 

I doubt they would, because majority of the player base would easily leave by then, whilst 30% of these guys will go play the bootleg boring and lame copies that exist.

There are many games that are far superior, the only thing keeping this game going is it's f2p addiction with monetary additional purchases.

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On 5/12/2024 at 9:25 PM, Akame said:

doubt they would, because majority of the player base would easily leave by then,

They wouldnt care at that point. Once they realize that releasing new augments wont get them any more money and that they have overused the nerf and buff tactics to the point that the player finally refuse to buy anything after learning it all too well, the devs might end up resorting to the new tactic before the eventual shutdown of the game.

 

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On 5/12/2024 at 2:36 AM, Gabe2607 said:

Yeah, why are we even accessing Tanki Online for free... 100 tankoins for each post on the forum! 500 tankoins to remain a member! User base is growing so fast that we need to keep the trend going !!!

Yea sure lets give the most OP augment right now for free to everyone so MM can be worst than usual even worst than when Tanki gave Helios before it was nerfed in Tanki Fund with almost the whole map using the augment all the time until they nerfed it. I would surely enjoy the experience of seeing 10 strikers per map and dying every 3 seconds because of how good the augment is right now.

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On 5/11/2024 at 6:58 AM, Kimura said:

both armadillo and crisis are completely top tier even after nerfs or whatever

Never heard such twoddle, top tier ? yeah ok, np, if you say so.

 

On 5/11/2024 at 6:58 AM, Kimura said:

its all about money buddy wake up

Your telling me to wake up, seriously.

I never take part in their scam funds. That's me being awake, wide eyed and fully aware what this game involves and what it takes from players for little reward in return.

I no longer do the challenge either, haven't for a very long time.

This game is ok for maxed out Legends who have nothing more to gain.

The game is detrimental in so many ways towards players, from the low ranks right up to marshal. This is because it is "IMPOSSIBLE" to save up enough cry between ranking to upgrade even one combo, hull, turret, favoured protections and drone. Even with a 50% sale, it takes millions of cry to do this. Like you said and I concur, It's all about the cash, so until they extend the ranking process and give X2 more cry than XP I shall continue to abstain from their pathetic events, my choice and It's the smart one. 

On 5/13/2024 at 5:25 AM, Akame said:

the only thing keeping this game going is it's f2p addiction with monetary additional purchases.

Agree.

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On 5/13/2024 at 10:35 PM, FLIPSTIKS said:

to upgrade even one combo, hull, turret, favoured protections and drone. Even with a 50% sale, it takes millions of cry to do this.

1 full combo with defender max (basically 31% prot from everything) costs ~900k

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On 5/13/2024 at 5:47 AM, Kimura said:

what paying tankoins for a forum post has to do with advertising? im i missing something or you're just stupid?

I spent an average of 80 cents a day on this game

If you do not understand and lack proper education, you only have your parents to blame. With 80 cents a day they came out short...

On 5/13/2024 at 7:18 AM, Alsar said:

Yea sure lets give the most OP augment right now for free to everyone so MM can be worst than usual even worst than when Tanki gave Helios before it was nerfed in Tanki Fund with almost the whole map using the augment all the time until they nerfed it. I would surely enjoy the experience of seeing 10 strikers per map and dying every 3 seconds because of how good the augment is right now.

Giving the same equipment to everyone (something that was not demanded) makes the game worse? That would be right only for low-skill players...

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On 5/13/2024 at 10:39 AM, HorizonZeroDawn said:

Every once in a while i login to see complaints about tanki, yet all of you still play it? I am missing a point or something?

I don't see anything wrong with complaining about something you don't like in a game, as long as you do it in a respectful manner, etc.. 

The exchange of feedback between players and the Developers team exists in almost every project. Without players raising their opinions, improving aspects of the game players dislike becomes much harder. Saying something negative about a game doesn't mean you necessarily hate it and vice versa.

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On 5/13/2024 at 12:39 AM, HorizonZeroDawn said:

Every once in a while i login to see complaints about tanki, yet all of you still play it? I am missing a point or something?

I think you're misunderstanding something. Not everyone here still plays tanki on a regular basis. For example, I haven't spent money in it or even played it for 5 months now. Once in a while I come in, laugh at what the devs are doing nowadays, try to advice some players to not make the same fatal mistakes others have made, read pointless arguments and see if I can survive the cringe all the way through or attempt to before I end up needing a nap, or I'll just have fun on the forum in my own special way.

Five months ago, I stopped playing the game (Though I just called it "a hiatus" at first), and promised myself I would be playing again until I started seeing changes for the better. Well 5 months later, not much has changed for the better, in fact, by the sounds of it, I think it may have gotten even worse since then.

So perhaps the time is soon approaching.

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On 5/14/2024 at 9:01 PM, PirateSpider said:

 Once in a while I come in, laugh at what the devs are doing nowadays, try to advice some players to not make the same fatal mistakes others have made, read pointless arguments and see if I can survive the cringe all the way through or attempt to before I end up needing a nap, or I'll just have fun on the forum in my own special way.

I am sorry, but how can you laugh at one's work? To be completely honest, no matter how much I dislike a certain thing, I always look back at who made it, how much time was spent on creating that thing, etc.. Same goes to users' posts on the Forum, they spend time expressing their opinions. Even if a single person read it and learns something new or learns about one's POV, it is not deemed pointless. 

Long story short, complaining is useless if you do nothing or the absolute minimum to make things change 

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TW: Dokan Forum Post. 

Viewer discretion strongly advised. You've been warned.

(i guess now i need to put TWs everytime i say something in this game so  i won't get banned for existing because that is somehow provocation and insults?)

On 5/13/2024 at 2:11 AM, Gabe2607 said:

Was it ridiculous in the past when equipment was gained through crystals? It was still Tanki Online...

Is it ridiculous now that equipment can be gained through crystals and tankoins? For you maybe for me it is just another monitization strat that I really do not care about since if you think and try to maximize value you get for spending you'll end up with absolutely stacked account while spending couple coffees worth of money here and there while others spend actual thousands. 
As for f2p there is more saving involved but it's the same thing. If you think before buying and skip this and that but spend on this you'll end up having account that is more than competitive. My friends are F2P and have absolutely no issues destroying everyone and never did because they saved and decided the best way to spend their tankoins.

If you're not smart about your purchases then it's not someone trying to scam you but you scamming yourself. Applies to real life too. Also every other game obviously. 

On 5/13/2024 at 2:11 AM, Gabe2607 said:

Average school kid playing Tanki still has to discover the power of Advertising. Not surprised at all...

yet the kid has enough money to spend on a game without feeling any negative effects. so does that means random school kids earn more buck than you. 

these sentences did not make any sense? well im just talking nonsense just like you here. what "power of Advertising" has to do with spending 400 tankoins to make a forum post? What you gonna hire Paul Heyman to cut a promo that'd convince you to spend 400 tankoins to make a tanki forum post? 

On 5/13/2024 at 2:11 AM, Gabe2607 said:

But you feel free to keep paying whatever they ask you and make sure to thank them on your way out.

lol why you raging on another person spending their own money? for all I care he can spend 5000$/day on this game and idc. it's his money and it's none of my business where he spends it. he can thank he can hate who cares?

 

On 5/14/2024 at 9:01 PM, PirateSpider said:

I think you're misunderstanding something. Not everyone here still plays tanki on a regular basis. For example, I haven't spent money in it or even played it for 5 months now. Once in a while I come in, laugh at what the devs are doing nowadays, try to advice some players to not make the same fatal mistakes others have made, read pointless arguments and see if I can survive the cringe all the way through or attempt to before I end up needing a nap, or I'll just have fun on the forum in my own special way.

Five months ago, I stopped playing the game (Though I just called it "a hiatus" at first), and promised myself I would be playing again until I started seeing changes for the better. Well 5 months later, not much has changed for the better, in fact, by the sounds of it, I think it may have gotten even worse since then.

So perhaps the time is soon approaching.

ok then what about mr and ms "i tell everyone that i hate this game 24/7" but i continue earning 100k+ XP a week and playing for the next 50 years. do you know how stupid they look? i'm 99% sure the person meant those people and not forum brainrot. 

just imagine buying a new phone that you started hating so much that you go and tell everyone "THIS PHONE SUCKS!!!!!" but then instead of changing it or selling or whatever you just continue using that phone until it breaks but you make sure to tell everyone you see that the phone you're using is horrible. it's the same thing here.

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In my opinion..
the event is good but, if u lose every single day you get 800 points after purchasing 100 points for 50k crystals
so those who think that they are not at all lucky shouldn't buy this event pass..

 

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On 5/14/2024 at 10:29 PM, Spy said:

but how can you laugh at one's work?

There are other developers from small companies who actually listen to their player, fix bugs that get reported in a reasonable time frame, communicate with their players, make smart marketing decisions, etc.

Tanki devs rarely listens to their players if at all anymore, may take them months maybe even years to fix reported bugs,  not much communication between dev and players, their marketing decisions seems aimed for short term profits, etc. This is just for the past 4 and a half years .

On 5/14/2024 at 10:29 PM, Spy said:

how much time was spent on creating that thing,

Wasted resources to be honest.

On 5/15/2024 at 2:22 AM, Kimura said:

ok then what about mr and ms "i tell everyone that i hate this game 24/7" but i continue earning 100k+ XP a week and playing for the next 50 years. do you know how stupid they look? i'm 99% sure the person meant those people and not forum brainrot. 

The person should just try to be like me in this situation. If you see a player who hates the game, just advise them to find another game only once, if that player is too stubborn, then best to move on to the next.

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On 5/15/2024 at 5:46 PM, PirateSpider said:

The person should just try to be like me in this situation. If you see a player who hates the game, just advise them to find another game only once, if that player is too stubborn, then best to move on to the next.

you think i didn't drop this card on people? lol i think it's obvious that tanki most of people are... interesting. and i guess omega snowflakes on top since if you call someones jumble of words as hardcore as "stupid" you'll be banned because i guess a grown man (don't even talk about this Casino Simulator being a kids or teenagers game) will explode after seeing such words. 

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I will probably make a post about this in the Suggestions box but for now can the devs please fix the auto-aim of Thunder's Nanotech Shells when aiming at its allies to heal them? This is what I am wanting to spend my points on and saw some recent videos showcasing it on Youtube. The auto-aim for allies is non-existent, unlike for Shaft healing emitters, making it incredibly hard to heal allies if you are not close AND level with them. Please add/fix auto-aim for this augment before the conclusion of this event. 

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On 5/13/2024 at 10:37 PM, Romantically said:

1 full combo with defender max (basically 31% prot from everything) costs ~900k

Now shall we get back to reality. 

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On 5/15/2024 at 5:22 AM, Kimura said:

TW: Dokan Forum Post. 

Viewer discretion strongly advised. You've been warned.

(i guess now i need to put TWs everytime i say something in this game so  i won't get banned for existing because that is somehow provocation and insults?)

Is it ridiculous now that equipment can be gained through crystals and tankoins? For you maybe for me it is just another monitization strat that I really do not care about since if you think and try to maximize value you get for spending you'll end up with absolutely stacked account while spending couple coffees worth of money here and there while others spend actual thousands.  (and much other...)

Advertising (a point you completely missed) is a different form of income that a game could chase. This was in reply to your and many others "how should the game make money if not charging their users".  

If you buy/use a product and you do not like it, you cannot say it? LOL. Ever heard about "Ratings and reviews"? 

Of course one is free to use money as they prefer. As there is freedom of speech. If you see someone paying $100 for a bottle of Cola, you might think "wow, that is cool dude". Well, others, mainly older wiser people, might just think "what a waste..." with a disappointed grin.

And I did not put crystals and tankoins at the same level: crystals may be made in Pro Battles, while tankoins are basically no longer accessible to free players. 

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On 5/15/2024 at 8:45 AM, Kimura said:

you think i didn't drop this card on people?

I wasn't really telling you what to do. It was more like you just happened to be the poor unfortunate soul who I am using as essentially a vessel to get my message to people like Horizon.

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On 5/15/2024 at 5:46 PM, PirateSpider said:

There are other developers from small companies who actually listen to their player, fix bugs that get reported in a reasonable time frame, communicate with their players, make smart marketing decisions, etc.

As far as I am aware:

  • Tanki's developers do communicate with players
  • The team is working hard on fixing the bugs they receive, they even expanded the Testers team to our community so English players could report bugs easily too (More info is available here)

I do agree that the marketing could be improved, that's a valid point.

On 5/15/2024 at 5:46 PM, PirateSpider said:

Wasted resources to be honest.

"Those who cannot respect others do not respect themselves"

On 5/15/2024 at 5:46 PM, PirateSpider said:

Tanki devs rarely listens to their players if at all anymore

Please, go over this Archive and check how many Completed ideas are there; https://en.tankiforum.com/forum/206-archive/

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On 5/15/2024 at 8:41 PM, Spy said:

Those who cannot respect others do not respect themselves"

"Respect is earned, not given. It can also be lost" The devs have lost my respect over the years. I have enough self-respect to not put myself through anymore of their gameplay or to give them anymore of my money.

The ones who truly have no respect for themselves are the ones who complain about how terrible the game was and yet still play it regularly. I even used to be one of those people at least 6 months ago.

On 5/15/2024 at 8:41 PM, Spy said:

Please, go over this Archive and check how many Completed ideas are

Of those who were posted in the last 4 and a half years, I've counted around 72-75 that were completed. Which averages about 1 maybe two of the recent ideas implemented per month. Which would be around 15-18 per year. That doesn't sound like much tbh.

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On 5/16/2024 at 7:57 AM, PirateSpider said:

"Respect is earned, not given. It can also be lost" The devs have lost my respect over the years. I have enough self-respect to not put myself through anymore of their gameplay or to give them anymore of my money.

Any person should give a baseline level of respect and failing to do so shows a lack in self-respect.

On 5/16/2024 at 7:57 AM, PirateSpider said:

I have enough self-respect to not put myself through anymore of their gameplay or to give them anymore of my money. The ones who truly have no respect for themselves are the ones who complain about how terrible the game was and yet still play it regularly. I even used to be one of those people at least 6 months ago.

You've basically presented two scenarios: one where players who don't play the game but provide feedback are deemed correct, and another where those who do play and offer feedback are considered as people with no self-respect. Now, let me ask you a question:

When a new update is released and it happens to be a "bad" one, whose concern is it — those actively play the game or those who don't? Feedback from someone who doesn't play the game would be seen as outsider's POV based on external factors rather than firsthand experience. 

On 5/16/2024 at 7:57 AM, PirateSpider said:

Of those who were posted in the last 4 and a half years, I've counted around 72-75 that were completed. Which averages about 1 maybe two of the recent ideas implemented per month. Which would be around 15-18 per year. That doesn't sound like much tbh.

It sounds so much more than "developers barely listen to players' ideas" isn't it? 

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On 5/16/2024 at 2:54 AM, Gabe2607 said:

If you buy/use a product and you do not like it, you cannot say it? LOL. Ever heard about "Ratings and reviews"? 

when i buy something i don't like i either give it back or sell and if it was really bad i'll give it a 1*. whoop whoop end of the day i move on to other thing. 

i don't buy something i dont like and then keep it till the end of time and do nothing but cry and complain like players in this game. no wonder people think they're playing with bots because i'm starting to think the same. 

On 5/16/2024 at 2:54 AM, Gabe2607 said:

Of course one is free to use money as they prefer. As there is freedom of speech. If you see someone paying $100 for a bottle of Cola, you might think "wow, that is cool dude". Well, others, mainly older wiser people, might just think "what a waste..." with a disappointed grin.

and you instead of doing that just go and complain 24/7 about how trash the purchase that the person did is and how they got scammed. we get it you cannot live without saying tanki's a scam but you don't have to constantly spam it under every topic where at least 1 tankoin worth of stuff is happening...

 

On 5/16/2024 at 2:54 AM, Gabe2607 said:

And I did not put crystals and tankoins at the same level:

sure

On 5/16/2024 at 2:54 AM, Gabe2607 said:

crystals may be made in Pro Battles

or you can just get 5k+ a match on boosted weekend and a safe 1-2k every match normally. for how long i've seen you complain you should be a legend so i made these numbers for legends.

 

On 5/16/2024 at 2:54 AM, Gabe2607 said:

while tankoins are basically no longer accessible to free players

lol ok. and how is that?
challenges are still the same with weekly container tankoins just being pushed into a mission. the funds are still here. battle passes are not worth it anymore for free players they got replaced by event passes or whatever. you get the same number of tankoins buddy.

 

On 5/16/2024 at 4:03 AM, PirateSpider said:

I wasn't really telling you what to do.

and all i did was just say that i and many others already told these players that if you don't like the game... then move on... leave...

 

On 5/16/2024 at 4:03 AM, PirateSpider said:

to get my message to people

yes because ppl should def want to be interested in what youre saying when you clearly are addicted to tanki because you "stopped playing" for 5 months yet is still here actually 24/7. everytime i randomly check this funny place u r online. 

On 5/16/2024 at 7:57 AM, PirateSpider said:

The ones who truly have no respect for themselves are the ones who complain about how terrible the game was and yet still play it regularly.

this is the highlight of your forum career!

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some official made good points. end of the world.
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On 5/16/2024 at 2:03 AM, Kimura said:

when i buy something i don't like i either give it back or sell and if it was really bad i'll give it a 1*. whoop whoop end of the day i move on to other thing. 

Bla bla bla...

 

Do you even remember when you stated several times in the forum you are no good in explaining yourself? I think the problem is that you do not focus enough when you read and when you write. A too common problem called ADHD.

1- how do you give back something to Tanki Online?

2- Tanki is not scamming. Tanki is doing business as many others, taking advantage of young kids addictions. That is why users average age has been purposely decreased. Kids will spend money in videogames. 

3- You got to be Buyer #1576 trying to explain Free Players how to get everything for free... "I did buy all my equipment, but I will teach you how to get it for free...". It is not even funny anymore. 1-2k crystals per match, missions, free tankoins everywhere... Why don't you stick to what you know, which is buying? 

 

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I can't participate in this event because I don't have enough tankoins.. please stop doing events that cost tankoins

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On 5/15/2024 at 11:01 PM, Spy said:

It sounds so much more than "developers barely listen to players' ideas" isn't it? 

Well, it is something, though I wasn't really impressed initially at the number that were implemented in the last 4 and a half years.  However if we break them down properly it becomes even less impressive.

For starters, I already know for a fact that quite a few of them were just for the forum, because I saw them. So those already don't count. If there were some that were about things like the discord server, the subreddit, or other non in-game related, then those too shouldn't count.

And finally, how many of the remaining ones were actually good ideas or QoLs? Pretty sure less than those that remain.

On 5/15/2024 at 11:01 PM, Spy said:

When a new update is released and it happens to be a "bad" one, whose concern is it — those actively play the game or those who don't?

Doesn't concern me anymore. I just compare main game I'm playing now to tanki, and realize I wasn't actually insane afterall with my criticisms.

On 5/15/2024 at 11:01 PM, Spy said:

Any person should give a baseline level of respect and failing to do so shows a lack in self-respect.

Alright fine I'll give the devs 5 points of respect but only because they made a few actually good changes for once in this recent patch. Extremely rare these days. I'll give 25 points of respect to the English testers that you mentioned earlier because they seem to actually be getting through to the devs.

On 5/15/2024 at 11:03 PM, Kimura said:

yes because ppl should def want to be interested in what youre saying

They can listen or they don't have to. ?‍♂️

On 5/15/2024 at 11:03 PM, Kimura said:

when you clearly are addicted to tanki because you "stopped playing" for 5 months yet is still here actually 24/7.

You don't have any proof that I am or not addicted to tanki or that I'm on the forum 24/7. Just like I have no proof that you are or not addicted to tanki or that you have no life outside of tanki.

On 5/15/2024 at 11:03 PM, Kimura said:

this is the highlight of your forum career!

Lol, not even close. But it might still qualify as being more useful than your entire existence and contribution on the forum. Let me think about it some more.

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