event Summer eSports TankiFund 2024

[Alsar 592]

On 6/24/2024 at 7:24 AM, Akame said:

I'd be happy to simply have just 15 tier TKfunds

To be honest i think if we had the exact same rewards at the current fund into 15 or 20 tiers people would buy the fund despite the fact of the increase on the low bundle.

[Romantically 282]

On 6/24/2024 at 2:20 AM, FLIPSTIKS said:

You still here.

 Utter despair.

I have a theory about "you".

1-Your hazel.

2-Your a bot.

3-Your just an annoying, I will let "you" fill in the missing word. Take your pick from about 50 I could easily come up with.h

He stated long ago he will keep saying these things like a bot to "get more luck in the game"

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 6/23/2024 at 9:24 PM, Akame said:

But in general, the other reasons we fail are mainly because people are waiting for the tkfund to reach a specific tier, I.e tier 20+ somewhere and there's a good set of that mentality which holds back the progress, I cannot confirm how many of these players exist.

We really need to stop saying this when we don't even have proof that they are the main reason why the fund isn't doing so well.

All this will do is cause other players to start gaslighting them, like what one player on the forum has been doing since the winter 2023 exports fund.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 6/25/2024 at 2:22 PM, PirateSpider said:

We really need to stop saying this when we don't even have proof that they are the main reason why the fund isn't doing so well.

All this will do is cause other players to start gaslighting them, like what one player on the forum has been doing since the winter 2023 exports fund.

And why can it not be all of the above? 

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 6/25/2024 at 1:05 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

And why can it not be all of the above? 

What do you mean?

[Akame 4,577]

On 6/25/2024 at 7:22 PM, PirateSpider said:

We really need to stop saying this when we don't even have proof that they are the main reason why the fund isn't doing so well.

All this will do is cause other players to start gaslighting them, like what one player on the forum has been doing since the winter 2023 exports fund.

The proof is very much there, but like I said, I don't know how many are still around as the unique player count is still falling.

I don't think you understand, these players can't be gaslighted, for they have made up their mind and most of these will be older f2p players naturally which are thinning out as time goes on.

The fund as it stands will be okay for low-mid ranks as you get a 40 nukes, 500 oe supp, 30 regs, a prot slot unlock and crisis. Since there are a small set of players who do not own crisis as they created their accounts after the broken tkfunds and missed out on the goodies and might need an extra slot unlocking, though prots on the whole unlock very later now so is partially irrelevant but good for the long run. Unfortunately there are no epic containers, poor design for low end tkfund to not include even a batch of 15.

As it stands, a tkfund reverted back to 15M-20M is the general way to go with a better condensing of the rewards. We are not gonna hit above 20M ever without a token of apology as things go on, not a fan of boosters myself, not gonna get those with these set of augments that I don't care for on the high end.

Was funny enough that the event orgs managed to use supplies for placeholder rewards this time around, we thought paints were bad, now they added some use.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 6/25/2024 at 8:47 PM, Akame said:

The proof is very much there, but like I said, I don't know how many are still around as the unique player count is still falling.

That's pretty vague evidence honestly. Can't even rely on it.

There's more concrete evidence that suggests that the back to back events we've had in the past few months (team contracts, sakura blossom, cosmonauts minigame, build&fight, etc) are the main reason why the fund didn't go very far.

All these events would drain the tankoin balance of those who were naive enough to buy them instead waiting for a fund, and by the time the fund came, they'd likely have spent all their tankoins.

The increased tankoins price would be a good 2nd reason, but we don't know how many of those who had between 700-1400 did it affect.

On 6/25/2024 at 8:47 PM, Akame said:

these players can't be gaslighted, for they have made up their mind and most of these will be older f2p players naturally which are thinning out as time goes on.

Of course they're not gonna listen to the idiots that are gaslighting them. As they shouldn't. Still, gaslighting is a behavior that shouldn't be encouraged as its extremely toxic.

On 6/25/2024 at 8:47 PM, Akame said:

As it stands, a tkfund reverted back to 15M-20M is the general way to go with a better condensing of the rewards. We are not gonna hit above 20M ever without a token of apology as things go on, not a fan of boosters myself, not gonna get those with these set of augments that I don't care for on the high end.

Hate to break it to you, but even the large TOA we got last year wont be able to save you if you spent them on each of those back to back events that took place the last few months.

Even if the price was still 990, you'd still have to work your tail off struggling to make that last 290 tankoins if you were a F2P.

[wild001 1,422]

I have 5000 tks, 22M crystal.

Still i save for skin, as full garage already, funds progress is not that much.

First tanki fund reach 15m in 1 day.

Nowadays, you can save roughly 3651 coins in 1 year, so not easy.

100 x 2 x 12 challenge + 3x 365 day+ 3x52 week = 3651 tk

Edited June 26, 2024 by wild001

[WieLKo-PoLski 318]

On 6/6/2024 at 8:06 PM, WieLKo-PoLski said:

Good fund, and as I was expecting, cheapest bundle would be more expensive and it really is. 1390 Tankoins when I have 1186. And how am I supposed to get them from challenges, daily missions, cake when game keeps crashing, loading quickly to 99% and then nothing and kick out due to "inactivity"... Premium is running away.

I'll wait for Token of Apology with like 150 or more Tankoins and as many days of Premium Accounts as long those attacks will be.

I don't want to pass, but if such attacks continue to appear for the whole celebrations, I will be forced to...

 

Alright, I was finally able to save for that fund and finally bought cheapest bundle. Although I have expected that price will be more expensive (Since even mini-game cost 700 Tankoins), I didn't think it would be that high. Cheapest bundle costs 1390 when it used to have 990, many 700 Tankoins events, like mentioned pay2play-mini-game on which many people spent tankoins and can't afford to buy it. Of course except for people that simply don't want to buy it and prefer spending tankoins on something else.

The question is, if the fund fail, for how long there will be no funds at all? To be honest, I won't be suprised if funds won't appear in the game for like few months to years.

[2shots2kills 2,364]

On 6/26/2024 at 3:54 PM, WieLKo-PoLski said:

The question is, if the fund fail, for how long there will be no funds at all? To be honest, I won't be suprised if funds won't appear in the game for like few months to years.

The more a fund fails, the better it is for the devs. Not many realize that the goal from the developer's point of view is exactly to make the fund fail or reach the midpoint at the maximum.

Why do you ask? It's so simple that I don't understand how players don't realize it themselves.

+ Some players have either bought tankoins with real currency or have emptied their pockets of tankoins.

+ The fund, by reaching the midpoint, only unlocked weak or average stuff (a win for the devs).

+ By keeping the best stuff (skins and exclusive augments) locked, the devs can later recycle them for other special offers for real money. Double profit for 0 loss. 

 

Do you think that the 50 tiers of the previous funds or the price increase of this fund were there for no reason? 

[WieLKo-PoLski 318]

On 6/26/2024 at 4:36 PM, 2shots2kills said:

Do you think that the 50 tiers of the previous funds or the price increase of this fund were there for no reason? 

Of course not. Devs are smart and know what to do to make no small amount of money. And/Or fool players.

[Akame 4,577]

On 6/26/2024 at 6:19 AM, PirateSpider said:

X Y Z and all of the rest

 

Let me iterate that I simply stated a variety of reasons that in combination have resulted in failing tkfunds as of late and that THE MAIN REASON is the low playercount.

They are all valid reasons and I know a fair set of people from each reason I stated, these are not groundless clauses.

[Muscularity 160]

I still don't have enough tankoins on my main to buy the minimal bundle because of the back-to-back events and even if I get enough of it, I'm not going to buy it

[LoveDealer 46]

Great. Who asked?

 

Game barely has 60k active players and you guys want 30k buyers. This type of stuff only works in hazel's dreams (aka, the best game developer ever)

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 6/26/2024 at 8:33 AM, Akame said:

Let me iterate that I simply stated a variety of reasons that in combination have resulted in failing tkfunds as of late and that THE MAIN REASON is the low playercount.

I mean sure, the declining playerbase can be a contributing factor.

But like I said, there's reason to believe/think that if it werent for the back to back events we've had lately, we would've likely seen 8-12 tiers reached alone, basically double of what we are at now. Thus why at least me and possibly quite a few others are gonna call it the single biggest factor.

If the price had stayed at 990 tks, we probably would've reached another 4 or 5 tiers. So it can pretty much be considered the next biggest factor.

 

If we were in 2023, the birthday fund was what was going on right now, and we had those back to back events for the past few months. We would not be able to jump to 20 tier within a couple weeks like we did. We would have maybe just barely reached tier 15 on like week 3 and the final result would've been about 17-18 million, not 40 million.

And I don't know what the 2023 summer esports fund would've looked like. Maybe 10 million at best if I wanted to be generous. It'd probably be more like only 5-6 tiers realistically. Not 22 million like it did.

[DSSJKJK 18]

On 6/26/2024 at 4:23 PM, PirateSpider said:

I mean sure, the declining playerbase can be a contributing factor.

But like I said, there's reason to believe/think that if it werent for the back to back events we've had lately, we would've likely seen 8-12 tiers reached alone, basically double of what we are at now. Thus why at least me and possibly quite a few others are gonna call it the single biggest factor.

If the price had stayed at 990 tks, we probably would've reached another 4 or 5 tiers. So it can pretty much be considered the next biggest factor.

 

If we were in 2023, the birthday fund was what was going on right now, and we had those back to back events for the past few months. We would not be able to jump to 20 tier within a couple weeks like we did. We would have maybe just barely reached tier 15 on like week 3 and the final result would've been about 17-18 million, not 40 million.

And I don't know what the 2023 summer esports fund would've looked like. Maybe 10 million at best if I wanted to be generous. It'd probably be more like only 5-6 tiers realistically. Not 22 million like it did.

I was confused why you have these conclusions. now we have 3651 tankions. in the past we have 2*100*12+52*8*3=2448 tankions. And we have many activties that also need tankions, which is similar for those free players. We have more tankions and we have more activities that need to pay. So the main reason is less players not more activities. By the way, I see a lot of players are not purchase the activities. 

 

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 6/26/2024 at 1:57 PM, DSSJKJK said:

was confused why you have these conclusions. now we have 3651 tankions.

And I'm not sure how you got that number. Though even if you got that many tks, the back to back events we have had in the past few months would chew through that very quickly.

There were four of them each with an entry fee of 700 tks, totaling in the final cost being 2800 tks. That would leave you with 851 tks left. Even if the fund entry fee was still at 990, you would still have to grind for at least 3 weeks to be able to buy it.

On 6/26/2024 at 1:57 PM, DSSJKJK said:

So the main reason is less players not more activities.

The only way to truly prove this is to have a period of time with none of these back to back events (say about 4-5) and then have a fund after that period of time.

If that particular fund doesn't get very far past 13 tiers by the end, then I'll be willing to admit it.

[Akame 4,577]

On 6/27/2024 at 1:50 AM, PirateSpider said:

And I'm not sure how you got that number. Though even if you got that many tks, the back to back events we have had in the past few months would chew through that very quickly.

There were four of them each with an entry fee of 700 tks, totaling in the final cost being 2800 tks. That would leave you with 851 tks left. Even if the fund entry fee was still at 990, you would still have to grind for at least 3 weeks to be able to buy it.

The only way to truly prove this is to have a period of time with none of these back to back events (say about 4-5) and then have a fund after that period of time.

 

Bold of you to assume f2p's are able to enter every event :clueless:, the establishment was clearly not established.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 6/26/2024 at 8:52 PM, Akame said:

Bold of you to assume f2p's are able to enter every event

Bold of you to assume that I said that.

[Gabku 194]

On 6/26/2024 at 3:54 PM, WieLKo-PoLski said:

The question is, if the fund fail, for how long there will be no funds at all? To be honest, I won't be suprised if funds won't appear in the game for like few months to years.

Funds are not a random event in the game. We have them around the same time each year, one during summer and one during end of autumn/start of winter because they are tied to the esports tournaments. Sometimes we also have an extra fund after the summer esports one, tho we started this years a bit later than usual so not sure if we are gonna get another one after.. So to answer your question, yes there will be funds after this, regardless if we fail or reach all levels.

[DSSJKJK 18]

On 6/27/2024 at 12:33 AM, PirateSpider said:

Bold of you to assume that I said that.

Even if you didnt say it, everything you siad is based on that idea.

[DSSJKJK 18]

On 6/27/2024 at 12:33 AM, PirateSpider said:

Bold of you to assume that I said that.

You assume all people finish all the challenge, daily and weekly mission, and get all free tankions, and participate in all activities. 

[FLIPSTIKS 136]

 So much negativity.@2shots2kills  hit the nail on the head----

On 6/26/2024 at 3:36 PM, 2shots2kills said:

Not many realize that the goal from the developer's point of view is exactly to make the fund fail or reach the midpoint at the maximum.

Like I said-The game is a joke.

Edited June 27, 2024 by FLIPSTIKS

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 6/26/2024 at 10:46 PM, DSSJKJK said:

You assume all people finish all the challenge, daily and weekly mission, and get all free tankions, and participate in all activities. 

You are greatly underestimating the general naivety and gullibility of at least 40% of the player base.

On 6/26/2024 at 10:45 PM, DSSJKJK said:

Even if you didnt say it, everything you siad is based on that idea.

If we were talking about getting a large TOA, then included the fact that a good portion of the player base are naive and gullible, then almost everything I have been saying about for the past month would have been true.

[Gabku 194]

We are literally right at the point where only the good stuff is left to reach...why isn't everyone buying it now?? There is no more filler items, only ut/weekly containers, skins and augments... We are wasting our chances.. good job tanki community, managed to ruin another fund because *excuses*