event Winter eSports TankiFund 2024

[Muscularity 160]

Hazel saids they don't know how to fix the failure of the Tanki fund. Here's some solutions : take example of these two tanki fund for the future tanki fund and remove the useless ten levels with only supplies and containers : https://pages.tankionline.com/winter-major and https://prnt.sc/Pa7fwyIGeZNB + https://prnt.sc/mHwRHHPvIpg5

 

[POWER-OF-ONE 163]

On 12/3/2024 at 7:08 PM, qinghuan said:

It’s a lose-lose for both the players and the devs.

Regardless what tier is reached, the devs NEVER lose out, only the players. Even their most prized players "the buyers" lose out eventually when their OP cash grab gets the usual nerf. 

The first 10 tiers makes this fund a joke and the devs no It's a joke and yet players still buy into it.  

On 12/11/2024 at 10:32 PM, Pleasant said:

azel saids they don't know how to fix the failure of the Tanki fund.

If he actually said it then it must be true.

I'm trying out to become a mod so I'd better get some practice in-Regarding this fund, I think It's very generous for a very reasonable price so It's a BIG  up from me. 

Can't have to many thumbs imo.

Soon to be Fellow mods, here I come and don't hog all the thumbs ok, leave some for me-ta in advance.

[Macabre 207]

On 12/12/2024 at 12:32 AM, Pleasant said:

Hazel saids they don't know how to fix the failure of the Tanki fund. Here's some solutions : take example of these two tanki fund for the future tanki fund and remove the useless ten levels with only supplies and containers : https://pages.tankionline.com/winter-major and https://prnt.sc/Pa7fwyIGeZNB + https://prnt.sc/mHwRHHPvIpg5

 

I believe he knows very well how to make a successful one. It's more like he doesn't "want" to make one because in his view players get too much for paying too little. 

[krokorok 837]

On 12/11/2024 at 11:32 PM, Pleasant said:

Hazel saids they don't know how to fix the failure of the Tanki fund. Here's some solutions : take example of these two tanki fund for the future tanki fund and remove the useless ten levels with only supplies and containers : https://pages.tankionline.com/winter-major and https://prnt.sc/Pa7fwyIGeZNB + https://prnt.sc/mHwRHHPvIpg5

I dont know if he really said it or not, but I find it extremely ridiculous that they would not know reasons why the fund keeps failing. It seems very obvious to me:

1) It is extremely expensive - 990 Rubies would already be very expensive for the LOWEST entry for majority of playerbase. People dont really have this amount of rubies lying around, especially with many 700 ruby entry events throughout the year that also offer pretty good and almost GUARANTEED rewards. Not only they disregarded this, they also massively increased the entry to 1500 Rubies. This is not an insignificant increase. It is basically a killer move that outright eliminates almost all f2p participation and demotivates small buyers and probably even bigger spenders. How do you increase the entry by 50% and think it would not affect the outcome of the fund?

2) Limited guarantee of rewards - I personally strongly dislike events that are group-oriented and bordering the line of lottery or hazard. Fund is about group participation, which creates a lot of uncertainty as it requires a high number of poeple to do the same thing as you to receive rewards. That demotivates people and forces them into the position of sitting duck. Sitting ducks will not participate because 1500 rbs is a huge commitment. Most people in the playerbase simply cant afford to potentially lose 1500 rubies on 500 of each supply and some nerfed augment that a lot of them already have. To put it in a perspective, it is like asking someone with minimal wage, morgage on neck, sick grandpa, 3 kids and an unemployed partner to spend their income on lottery ticket while only giving them a guaranteed reward of 2 bottles of water and one piece of bread. I know this is to some extent an exaggeration on my part, but that's what it certainly feels like at times. Sitting ducks will not participate because of the risk, or participate only when the risk is gone and it finally pays off to participate, but that will likely not happen because sitting ducks are needed initially for the fund to gain those levels in the first place. Can we also talk about how garbage the guaranteed rewards are? You pay 1500 Rubies and initially you get 1 NE and 450 of each supply (not even grenades in this offer). It seems that a lot of people who paid 1500 Rubies will end up getting 1000 of each supply, 10 NE and 100 grenades. I feel like this is not motivating anyone to participate.

3) Bad reputation - At this point, I feel this event accumulated unheard amounts of bad rep. People no longer look forward to it. People no longer expect good rewards being reached in it. And most importantly, people no longer save tankoins/rubies for it! We just dont care about Nemesis and 3 Legendary keys, because we do not expect ever reaching these tiers. Its time to go back to the drawing board. It is time to stop this 30 and 50 tier nonsense. It is time to stop pushing supplies on us. We get them nonstop from the overnerfed containers. 15 tiers is more than enough. Get more creative with your rewards. Instead of stupid 10 tiers of Mono paints, put one tier with 2-3 really good looking animated paints, instead of never ending Nuclear energies, put 2-3 shot effects, maybe buff some recycled legendary augment that wasnt already distributed on and on on lower tiers and keep it good for at least 2 months. Perhaps, slap 2 weeks of premium there so your f2p have maybe some motivation to actually play the game instead of bots. Maybe put 20 Gold box supplies there with 20% chance one of them will be a megagold. I dont know, just try something else that isnt complete trash like 500 supplies and Mono paints and does not break that precious fragile economy of yours.

4) Too many events - there are too many events happening like Sakura Blossom, Build and Fight, Freezer games, Team Contracts, etc. throughout the year that have 700 Tankoins/Rubies price tag. Almost every month there is something that will potentially extract a good amount of these rare resources from you. On top of it all, many of them have other extra fees (like 50 tkns for tank part exchange in Assemble the tank, or 30 tkns for sweeping mine in the Battleship) so they are even more expensive than the initial entry price. Despite that, a lot of players will chose to participate in these because they tend to still be cheaper and you will know what you will get. I will rather pay 700 Rubies and 1.8m crystals in Freezer games, knowing that after completing all the missions, I will get 4 augments with 100% guarantee, 2 of which are very broken, than spend 1500 Rubies in fund to very likely get nothing. These events tend to be better because of the guaranteed rewards and coincidentally happen oftentimes before the funds, at which point, people dont really have any spare currency to participate. There is also no way to replenish this currency to really keep up with the pricing and sheer amount of events. You increased the amount of rubies for weekly missions by 2 and added 100 rubies as 0.001% chance in legendary container reward, but this cannot offset the amount of fees and price increases you are implementing in the events. I am not saying that f2p should be able to participate in every single event there is, there would be no point for buyers to spend ever, but slapping 50% increase on an already pricy event and expect it to be simply carried by just your buyer player base seems unachievable.

Edited December 12, 2024 by krokorok

[Master_Scope 164]

Based on the interview the devs logic behind implementing such a poor fund is obvious:

1) Players spend very little to get lots of rewards on previous funds - hence the price increase and 10 filler tiers

2) They don't want too many players having broken arguments which would create a cancerous gameplay experience with everyone using the same 2-3augs

E-sports players are being completely shafted in terms of in-game rewards compared to previous funds.

How to fix the fund:

1) Get rid of filler and change the content of the cheapest bundle - Noone wants to buy into something when all they are guaranteed is supplies

2) Reuse old content -  Personally,  if the fund had a few animated paints, shot effects and legendary arguments all of which are recycled at lower levels, I would buy into it. This also solves the problem of having powerful stupidly broken arguments being given to large numbers of players. There is no harm in using stuff in the legendary pool as there are simply too many items in it.

[Gabku 194]

On 12/11/2024 at 11:32 PM, Pleasant said:

Hazel saids they don't know how to fix the failure of the Tanki fund.

You know what would be really good to have? A place where players could tell what they want and what their opinion about the fund is so all they'd have to do is read those helpful comments and maybe even use some of those recommendations/ideas of those players to fix the fund with,

Oh wait..what's the name of this place again?

[Biome 166]

Thank you so much awesome tanki online developers for this great fund! I took part and enjoyed it!

[thunderhunter123 741]

On 11/21/2024 at 8:06 AM, Marcus said:

 

https://tankionline.com/en/?p=50069

I hope Tanki Developers or whoever else makes Tanki Fund rewards learns to not have Level 1 to 10 prizes (supplies and a few Keys). Only 2 days left and still under 8 million (Level 8). Rewards were not worth it to purchase anything. Tanki Funds should only have rewards starting from Level 11+. No common Keys. Only Rare Keys or higher, Augments, Animated Paints, etc.

[MM_7_7_7_7 0]

The Emperor is up! This fund is an evil trap! I only got a bunch of useless props for my 1490 coins. I want to return the item! I didn't expect the foundation to be so terrible. I've had enough of you being stingy! I spent 22900 yuan to purchase the gift pack. There was only one rampage and one self destruct coming out from inside. That's it. There's nothing else. This is not worth the price at all! There is a big problem with this game, and your behavior is a consumption of reputation for players who spend money. Save this fund! Let the fund start from level 11! Add coins in.

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 12/18/2024 at 10:53 AM, MM_7_7_7_7 said:

The Emperor is up! This fund is an evil trap! I only got a bunch of useless props for my 1490 coins. I want to return the item! I didn't expect the foundation to be so terrible. I've had enough of you being stingy! I spent 22900 yuan to purchase the gift pack. There was only one rampage and one self destruct coming out from inside. That's it. There's nothing else. This is not worth the price at all! There is a big problem with this game, and your behavior is a consumption of reputation for players who spend money. Save this fund! Let the fund start from level 11! Add coins in.

evil trap? you know what youre getting into and you saw the prices and the rate at which it's being completed. 

And if you dont well it's nobodys  but your fault read what youre spending your money on next time. Its like going to a casino and then asking for my money back after losing it all. absurd. 

[POWER-OF-ONE 163]

On 12/12/2024 at 1:53 PM, Master_Scope said:

They don't want too many players having broken arguments which would create a cancerous gameplay experience with everyone using the same 2-3augs

This is exactly what they want.

Do you really think they give a crap how many players acquire their "broken augments". All they do is just roll out the next update (broken augment) and start the whole process again after nerfing the previous broken augment, so It's basically pathetic just like they did with Helios. They have already nerfed rico's newest augment, plasma resonator before anyone has a chance to use it in earnest. 

The game is a scam aimed at buyers who do not have a clue.

On 12/12/2024 at 1:53 PM, Master_Scope said:

if the fund had a few animated paints, shot effects

I'd rather have supplies than this useless guff.

 

On 12/17/2024 at 4:39 PM, thunderhunter123 said:

Animated Paints, etc.

Again with the pathetic animated paints.

They were cool when they first came out but are now an annoyance that are used as fillers.

On 12/18/2024 at 8:53 AM, MM_7_7_7_7 said:

I spent 22900 yuan to purchase the gift pack.

That's your problem. Let's hope you have learned your lesson, but I highly doubt it.

This is why I say that buyers are hazels fav players, because every single one of you has been conditioned to spend cash and keep on spending cash no matter how many times you get scammed, sad really.

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On 12/18/2024 at 12:53 AM, MM_7_7_7_7 said:

I spent 22900 yuan to purchase the gift pack. 

Thats $3,143 USD 

[Snafu 139]

So far seems like a total failure. And it was expected  I've set a reminder to check this thing few days before the end to decide if it's worth bying. Obviosly not