I want to buy a new laptop. Does anyone know if a 200-300 dollar laptop can handle Tanki Online?

[AntiStatic 21]

On 11/23/2024 at 2:43 PM, demon09 said:

My current laptop has an Intel Core i3-7100U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2400

It can't run Tanki smoothy even on the lowest graphical settings. The game lags.

A laptop I'm interested (link) in has a:

-12: e generations In_tel Alder Lake N97-processor

-12-watts chip with 4 core and 4 threads, which supports CPU-speeds up to 3,6 GHz

- 16 GB RAM and 512 GB ROM, 16 GB DDR4 memory.

It's advertised as a gaming laptop.

Do you think it can run Tanki smoothly?

Then its FALSE advertisement, more like the office laptop not a gaming laptop.

Alder Lake N97 has Intel UHD Graphics 24EUs and i3-7100U has Intel HD Graphics 620.

 Performance-wise they are basically same, only difference is that N97 is newer and more energy efficient.  It means longer battery life. 

HD Graphics 620 vs UHD Graphics 24EUs

Buying this laptop means, you will be seriously disappointed because it will play tanki just like you are playing right now. if you want to play tanki smoothly on high settings, then anything below Iris Xe Graphics, RX Vega6, RX Vega 7 are a NO-GO.

 

 

 

Edited November 23, 2024 by AntiStatic

[NikmanGT 4,362]

Topic Moved to GD

Now feel free to discuss as much as you want ^^

Oh and btw, 200-300 dollars would not support Tanki even at 40 FPS low setting, I myself had to purchase a 700 dollar (approx) laptop to enjoy the Game at its proper form (had to play in stuttering low graphics for a long time before that)

[Son_Goku 514]

This one would be very nice, but it's on the German amazon, you'd have to see whether it's available in your country too. The one you've mentioned is likely to run slightly better than your current laptop, but that's about it. You wouldn't notice much of a difference, probably.

And before you want to do anything crazy, make sure the laptop you're getting has the right keyboard layout. Germany uses QWERTZ, it's quite different.

But in general, good processors (CPU) for your use case are the Intel i5 1235U, Intel i5 1335U, AMD Ryzen 5 5500U and AMD Ryzen 5 7530U (or better of course). With Intel, it's important that the CPU has Intel Iris Xe graphics, everything else pretty much sucks for what you're looking for. 8 GB RAM is barely enough nowadays, 16 GB is recommended. SSD storage type is very important. With these, you should be able to run Tanki smoothly, with a not too expensive laptop.

May be that there are older generation CPUs or slightly weaker models from Intel and AMD that have the same graphics and perform similar to the ones I've mentioned, but I don't know enough about them to recommend anything. You could also think about getting some "Mini PC" with similar specs. They're cheaper usually, but you'll also need a new monitor then, and a keyboard+mouse. It may be possible to use your current laptop as the monitor, but I doubt its keyboard etc. would work with the Mini PC.

Edited November 23, 2024 by Son_Goku

[Sabry 1,072]

On 11/23/2024 at 1:45 PM, demon09 said:

Yeah, I've decided to give up on getting a laptop that can handle Tanki on the highest graphics. I'm happy getting one that can simply run it smoothy on any graphical settings.

yeah, then 200 USD for the highest graphics in TO isn't realistic I'm afraid, I'd suggest either going a bit above your budget, or have lower graphics. I sent the minimum requirements for playing tanki and also the recommended one. I'm not so sure where will the recommended one will lead you, I'd suppose to Medium, perhaps high, but not so sure about the highest. Overall best of luck!

 

To give an idea, I have a gamer PC worth 1,5k euros but it can run practically any game smoothly such as GTA for example. You don't need to have that high budget either, but yeah, if you're looking for a good PC, 200 USD isn't enough. My brother has a chromebook worth 250 euros for example, it's helpful for work, but for playing tanki, it won't be effective.

[demon09 89]

On 11/23/2024 at 10:54 PM, Son_Goku said:

This one would be very nice, but it's on the German amazon, you'd have to see whether it's available in your country too. The one you've mentioned is likely to run slightly better than your current laptop, but that's about it. You wouldn't notice much of a difference, probably.

And before you want to do anything crazy, make sure the laptop you're getting has the right keyboard layout. Germany uses QWERTZ, it's quite different.

But in general, good processors (CPU) for your use case are the Intel i5 1235U, Intel i5 1335U, AMD Ryzen 5 5500U and AMD Ryzen 5 7530U (or better of course). With Intel, it's important that the CPU has Intel Iris Xe graphics, everything else pretty much sucks for what you're looking for. 8 GB RAM is barely enough nowadays, 16 GB is recommended. SSD storage type is very important. With these, you should be able to run Tanki smoothly, with a not too expensive laptop.

May be that there are older generation CPUs or slightly weaker models from Intel and AMD that have the same graphics and perform similar to the ones I've mentioned, but I don't know enough about them to recommend anything. You could also think about getting some "Mini PC" with similar specs. They're cheaper usually, but you'll also need a new monitor then, and a keyboard+mouse. It may be possible to use your current laptop as the monitor, but I doubt its keyboard etc. would work with the Mini PC.

Thanks, I really appreciate the help. Without it I wouldn't have a clue what to buy.

Edited November 25, 2024 by demon09

[demon09 89]

So I've found some laptops that I think you will approve of. Please tell me what you think about them. 

The CPUs you've recommended all scored at minimum 10,000 in the first score, so these CPUs should do, except for maybe the last laptop.

https://www.netonnet.se/art/gaming/gamingdator/barbar-gamingdator/msi-thin-15-b13uc-2464neu/1035157.12916/

Intel® Core™ i5 13420H, 512 GB SSD & 16 GB RAM

cpu score:

higher is better: 18,351

lower is better: 747

higher is better: 53.66

650,07 euro

https://www.elgiganten.se/product/datorer-kontor/datorer/laptop/hp-240-g9i5-1235u1625614/796922

Intel® Core™ i5-1235U, 16 GB DDR4 RAM, 256 GB SSD storage

cpu score:

13,388

998

43.33

563,71 euro

https://www.webhallen.com/se/product/373296-MSI-Modern-15-F1MG-15-6-Intel-Graphics-Urban-Silver

Core 5 / 120U, 16 GB / 512 GB

cpu score:

16,587    

828    

48.79

563,28 euro

The specs doesn't mention "SSD" in the RAM stuff, just that the harddrive type is "SSD" however - is this problematic?

https://www.webhallen.com/se/product/373469-Aspire-Go-14-AG14-21P-R41N-14-WUXGA-AMD-Ryzen-5-7520U-16GB-512GB-UMA

Ryzen 5 / 7520U / 16 GB / 512 GB

cpu score:

9,188    

1268    

NA

563,28 euro

Again, this laptop doesn't mention "SSD" in the RAM stuff, just that the harddrive is an "SSD" type.
 

Edited November 26, 2024 by demon09

[Son_Goku 514]

SSD is a storage device, RAM is something like your computer's short term memory. As long as it says SSD or NVMe as the storage type instead of eMMC or HDD, you're fine.

But from what you suggested, ranked from what I think is best to worst:

https://www.netonnet.se/art/gaming/gamingdator/barbar-gamingdator/msi-thin-15-b13uc-2464neu/1035157.12916/ With the RTX 3050, this laptop is by far the best one for gaming. But it will also make the laptop run louder and hotter, and will drain the battery faster. Could be overkill for only Tanki.

https://www.webhallen.com/se/product/373296-MSI-Modern-15-F1MG-15-6-Intel-Graphics-Urban-Silver From what I see online, the Core 5 120U processor is basically a newer version of the i5 1235U. This one also has double the storage, which you would like.

https://www.elgiganten.se/product/datorer-kontor/datorer/laptop/hp-240-g9i5-1235u1625614/796922 It has less storage than 2nd, and an older gen CPU. Same integrated graphics as 2nd, but should still perform slightly worse.

https://www.webhallen.com/se/product/373469-Aspire-Go-14-AG14-21P-R41N-14-WUXGA-AMD-Ryzen-5-7520U-16GB-512GB-UMA There is a huge gap between the Ryzen 5 7520U and the Ryzen 5 7530U, which I suggested in the previous posts. Both the Ryzen 5 5500U and Ryzen 5 7530U should perform similar, or in some cases better than 2nd and 3rd place, if you find any.

2nd to 4th place all have integrated graphics, which lower gaming performance significantly compared to the 1st place, but 2nd and 3rd should still provide smooth gameplay in Tanki. I don't think I would recommend 4th place, it should perform noticeably worse than the other 3.

Would be nice if others could confirm, all the data I have is just from lots of benchmarks I've seen online, not personal experience.

Edited November 26, 2024 by Son_Goku

[NikmanGT 4,362]

Well I personally had a lot of options from MSI, but still chose to go for HP, because keep in mind it's not just a single game for which you are purchasing the laptop (MSI has poor support and not much satisfactory post-purchase customer service in my country)

Try to look into the other aspects as well, and if you're going to be buying a good gaming laptops with at least 3rd gen graphic cards (like me), you're going to explore a lot more games and miscellaneous stuff other than Tanki on your way just like I did 

I'd recommend at least 16 GB, since you can focus on other tasks as well, plus SSD is a minimum (try to look for models which have both upgradable Ram and SSD slots)

Good luck ^^

[demon09 89]

Thanks for the answers, guys!

 

[Positive 1,136]

On 11/26/2024 at 4:16 PM, demon09 said:

Thanks for the answers, guys!

 

Good luck, you might be able to take advantage of the black Friday deals.

[AntiStatic 21]

On 11/26/2024 at 3:07 PM, demon09 said:

So I've found some laptops that I think you will approve of. Please tell me what you think about them. 

The CPUs you've recommended all scored at minimum 10,000 in the first score, so these CPUs should do, except for maybe the last laptop.

https://www.netonnet.se/art/gaming/gamingdator/barbar-gamingdator/msi-thin-15-b13uc-2464neu/1035157.12916/

Intel® Core™ i5 13420H, 512 GB SSD & 16 GB RAM

cpu score:

higher is better: 18,351

lower is better: 747

higher is better: 53.66

On 11/26/2024 at 3:07 PM, demon09 said:

So I've found some laptops that I think you will approve of. Please tell me what you think about them. 

The CPUs you've recommended all scored at minimum 10,000 in the first score, so these CPUs should do, except for maybe the last laptop.

https://www.netonnet.se/art/gaming/gamingdator/barbar-gamingdator/msi-thin-15-b13uc-2464neu/1035157.12916/

Intel® Core™ i5 13420H, 512 GB SSD & 16 GB RAM

cpu score:

higher is better: 18,351

lower is better: 747

higher is better: 53.66

650,07 euro

https://www.elgiganten.se/product/datorer-kontor/datorer/laptop/hp-240-g9i5-1235u1625614/796922

Intel® Core™ i5-1235U, 16 GB DDR4 RAM, 256 GB SSD storage

cpu score:

13,388

998

43.33

563,71 euro

https://www.webhallen.com/se/product/373296-MSI-Modern-15-F1MG-15-6-Intel-Graphics-Urban-Silver

Core 5 / 120U, 16 GB / 512 GB

cpu score:

16,587    

828    

48.79

563,28 euro

The specs doesn't mention "SSD" in the RAM stuff, just that the harddrive type is "SSD" however - is this problematic?

https://www.webhallen.com/se/product/373469-Aspire-Go-14-AG14-21P-R41N-14-WUXGA-AMD-Ryzen-5-7520U-16GB-512GB-UMA

Ryzen 5 / 7520U / 16 GB / 512 GB

cpu score:

9,188    

1268    

NA

563,28 euro

Again, this laptop doesn't mention "SSD" in the RAM stuff, just that the harddrive is an "SSD" type.
 

650,07 euro

https://www.elgiganten.se/product/datorer-kontor/datorer/laptop/hp-240-g9i5-1235u1625614/796922

Intel® Core™ i5-1235U, 16 GB DDR4 RAM, 256 GB SSD storage

cpu score:

13,388

998

43.33

563,71 euro

https://www.webhallen.com/se/product/373296-MSI-Modern-15-F1MG-15-6-Intel-Graphics-Urban-Silver

Core 5 / 120U, 16 GB / 512 GB

cpu score:

16,587    

828    

48.79

563,28 euro

The specs doesn't mention "SSD" in the RAM stuff, just that the harddrive type is "SSD" however - is this problematic?

https://www.webhallen.com/se/product/373469-Aspire-Go-14-AG14-21P-R41N-14-WUXGA-AMD-Ryzen-5-7520U-16GB-512GB-UMA

Ryzen 5 / 7520U / 16 GB / 512 GB

cpu score:

9,188    

1268    

NA

563,28 euro

Again, this laptop doesn't mention "SSD" in the RAM stuff, just that the harddrive is an "SSD" type.
 

1.  Its class on its own because it has Dedicated graphics card and has 144 Hz screen, which is very nice. It can run any Triple A game out there on high settings. Going from Intel HD Graphics 620 to RTX 3050 just wanting to play tanki smoothly is a bit extreme  ..if you can afford it then, go for it. My only consern is how long these kind of cheap gaming laptops last. 

2. I kinda dislike all new intel CPU-s and their E-cores and P-cores.

3. Dislike cuz it has only 14" screen even tho it has Iris Xe Graphics inside which can run tanki smoothly on high settings.

4. Same story here only 14" screen and also this amd integrated graphics 610M sucks. Its almost 2,5x weaker than Iris Xe Graphics.

Ive done some research on my own and found another one. Its even cheaper.. CPU is better than my 5500u and also has vega 7 graphics. 

ASUS Vivobook 15 D1502 - 519.48 euro

Edited November 26, 2024 by AntiStatic

[demon09 89]

On 11/26/2024 at 7:34 PM, AntiStatic said:

1.  Its class on its own because it has Dedicated graphics card and has 144 Hz screen, which is very nice. It can run any Triple A game out there on high settings. Going from Intel HD Graphics 620 to RTX 3050 just wanting to play tanki smoothly is a bit extreme  ..if you can afford it then, go for it. My only consern is how long these kind of cheap gaming laptops last. 

2. I kinda dislike all new intel CPU-s and their E-cores and P-cores.

3. Dislike cuz it has only 14" screen even tho it has Iris Xe Graphics inside which can run tanki smoothly on high settings.

4. Same story here only 14" screen and also this amd integrated graphics 610M sucks. Its almost 2,5x weaker than Iris Xe Graphics.

Ive done some research on my own and found another one. Its even cheaper.. CPU is better than my 5500u and also has vega 7 inside. 

Mine Thinkbook 15 Gen3 cost bit more and had only 8 GB RAM inside. Bought another 8 GB RAM cuz its much cheaper option than buying 16 GB version. 

ASUS Vivobook 15 D1502 - 519.48 euro

Thank you for the help, buddy. Its CPU scores 15,746, nice.

Thanks for the feedback about the first laptop being overkill.

Edited November 27, 2024 by demon09

[Son_Goku 514]

On 11/27/2024 at 1:02 AM, demon09 said:

Thank you for the help, buddy. Its CPU scores 15,746, nice.

Thanks for the feedback about the first laptop being overkill.

I'd get either the one AntiStatic posted, or the laptop with the Intel Core 5 120U, the one I ranked 2nd. The Intel one is likely to perform slightly better in CPU related tasks, but you have to figure out yourself whether that's worth the increased price.

Regardless, both will run Tanki smoothly. It's just which laptop looks better to you, honestly. You're doing yourself a favour by increasing your budget to at least this, either of those laptops should last you for a while.

Edited November 27, 2024 by Son_Goku

[AntiStatic 21]

On 11/27/2024 at 2:02 AM, demon09 said:

Thank you for the help, buddy. Its CPU scores 15,746, nice.

Thanks for the feedback about the first laptop being overkill.

Glad to help. I know what it feels like to play games with constant lag especially tanki. My previous laptop had Intel® 4 Series Express graphics which was very old and a lot worse than yours HD Graphics 620 and how miserable experience that was.  I couldnt play newer maps like (Forest remaster MM) at all, just left immediately because my framerate were between 1 - to 10 FPS and it looked like slideshow.  My average FPS on older maps were like 15 and felt somewhat "playable",  but now with RX vega 7, cant believe how smooth my gameplay is and didnt cost me a fortune.

I see that you look what is the CPU score, but CPU wise its not an issue here because tanki is not CPU heavy game. Even Alder Lake-N N97 can handle tanki if it had better graphics. For example you could have best CPU out there(Ryzen Threadripper PRO 7995WX) but if its still paired with crappy graphics then it still runs like a potato. Graphics is the only bottleneck here. 

..and a little tip.. Dont use (budget laptop) keyboard to play games because they wear out so fast and nowadays you cant replace them either. So it ruins the laptop and its value and also in case you want to resell it in future if you are not happy with it anymore. 

Buy cheaper gaming keyboard or even regular keyboard and abuse the crap out of it and if it breaks then throw it away and buy new one. 

Edited November 27, 2024 by AntiStatic

[demon09 89]

On 11/27/2024 at 1:39 PM, AntiStatic said:

Glad to help. I know what it feels like to play games with constant lag especially tanki. My previous laptop had Intel® 4 Series Express graphics which was very old and a lot worse than yours HD Graphics 620 and how miserable experience that was.  I couldnt play newer maps like (Forest remaster MM) at all, just left immediately because my framerate were between 1 - to 10 FPS and it looked like slideshow.  My average FPS on older maps were like 15 and felt somewhat "playable",  but now with RX vega 7, cant believe how smooth my gameplay is and didnt cost me a fortune.

I see that you look what is the CPU score, but CPU wise its not an issue here because tanki is not CPU heavy game. Even Alder Lake-N N97 can handle tanki if it had better graphics. For example you could have best CPU out there(Ryzen Threadripper PRO 7995WX) but if its still paired with crappy graphics then it still runs like a potato. Graphics is the only bottleneck here. 

..and a little tip.. Dont use (budget laptop) keyboard to play games because they wear out so fast and nowadays you cant replace them either. So it ruins the laptop and its value and also in case you want to resell it in future if you are not happy with it anymore. 

Buy cheaper gaming keyboard or even regular keyboard and abuse the crap out of it and if it breaks then throw it away and buy new one. 

What's interesting and frustrating is that my crappy old laptop can run War Thunder Ground Forces on the lowest graphics pretty well (no lag, but somewhat low FPS), but Tanki, a game that must be much simpler, lags.

Thanks for the advice about the keyboard. That's good to know.

 

On 11/27/2024 at 7:06 AM, Son_Goku said:

I'd get either the one AntiStatic posted, or the laptop with the Intel Core 5 120U, the one I ranked 2nd. The Intel one is likely to perform slightly better in CPU related tasks, but you have to figure out yourself whether that's worth the increased price.

Regardless, both will run Tanki smoothly. It's just which laptop looks better to you, honestly. You're doing yourself a favour by increasing your budget to at least this, either of those laptops should last you for a while.

Thanks for the help. I appreciate it a lot, buddy.

[AntiStatic 21]

On 11/27/2024 at 11:23 AM, demon09 said:

What's interesting and frustrating is that my crappy old laptop can run War Thunder Ground Forces on the lowest graphics pretty well (no lag, but somewhat low FPS), but Tanki, a game that must be much simpler, lags.

Thanks for the advice about the keyboard. That's good to know.

 

Thanks for the help. I appreciate it a lot, buddy.

Game optimization is also a important factor here. Well optimized game runs smoother even on a lower frame rate and can run on a wider range of systems.

Then War Thunder is far better optimized game even tho it has higher minimum system requirements than tanki.

I remember when tanki run on adobe flash then it run much smoother even on a potato system like mine but when Adobe shut down flash, then tanki was forced to move to HTML5. After that my gameplay got suddenly very laggy and took more RAM to run the game. Since my laptop supported only max 4GB RAM, then memory usage was always over 90% Even when i played on a smaller maps and FPS showed like 40+, my game sill lagged sometimes because lack of RAM.

 I dont think tanki will ever optimize their game well enough (or is it even possible) to run as good as War Thunder. Only option is to buy better computer.

 

Edited November 27, 2024 by AntiStatic

[Positive 1,136]

@demon09Did you end up buying one? How's Tanki running for you?