Thunder is the only gun that shows a big jump in btw its m0 and m1 modification so smokey m0 > thunder m0 thunder m1 > smokey m1 smokey m2 > thunder m2 thunder m3 = smokey m2 smokey m3 > thunder m3 and After the MU Smokey: its critical hit will become 217, and 9%, impact for 204, damage = 30 - 38 at all distances Thunder still during one shot of thunder = 2 for smokey max damage of thunder will be = 95, while for smokey 38 X 2 = 76 at all ranges, Reload time Old = 24.3 Micro = 21.2

sorry dear, its tank --> weapon --> paint go check out some guys playing with good weapons and very weak tanks, most of them told me that they feel they did a big mistake

A simple Guide for the new players 1- Start the game play with hornet m0 and use smoky 2- Once u get into the right rank get smokey M1 3- Go for hornet m1 instead of wasp m1 4- On the appropriate rank switch to thunder m1, never go for further modifications of thunder they have very minimal difference (thunder m1 with hornet m1 will be the best over the game field) 5- After thunder will start to lose its efficiency in battles start using isida m1, be patient until wasp m2 will be unlocked 6- Now start saving either for smokey m2 (much better than thunder and rails in most maps) or keep going with isida (plays for almost majority of maps) and isida doesn't need luck, u will always score faster among your team mates. 7- Buy wasp m2, buy sandstone or keep saving for rustle (favorite paint for majority), but remember since u have a fast tank, then a paint against freeze is useless, because once freeze will get you, then there is no escape, so sandstone is still more preferable. 8- After u collect enough crystals then you can think about other plans 8- For costy items always buy during discounts You need to collect crystals and feel comfort while playing, fast tank with correct gun are the best for beginners, later when you get into the suitable rank then you can start thinking about other hulls and guns u can try freeze m0 or m1 as well with this comb, but u wont score a lot, u will freeze up the enemies and others will steal your kills Maps that you must play in, will come in another guidlines if this was of benefit P.S. don't go for the kits, u will lose more crystals than buying them on discounts

you are right, it happened to me and to adam-909 as well, it happened to us twice and without any previous warning, with the first power leveling pretention we lost our isidas m3, thunder m3 and 2 costy paints 6 months ago 1 month ago we played another friendly battle after we earned our rails m3, and we got out of battle all of a sudden, they recorded the battle in video and until now we don't see any penalty that deserved to fine us our rails m3 and our m3 wasps and 2 costy paints from each, just a kind of pushing to use more of your credit cards and the video we demanded, showed clearly what most of russians do when playing friendly battles, when they keep their tank a side, or chit chat or having some fun, we got no any previous warning and we demanded a compensation without any result they claimed that the warning came through email, who on earth opens his email during the game play lol anyway its the time to vote for a refund in here, despite we got back again our m3 items by efforts and not by money this time, but its for the sake of old players we are doing this http://feedback.tankionline.com/topic/271767-a-refund-suggestion/

No more reply by old players over all posts, We are waiting the devs' response No more comments by me, or any who respect this strike

Please we don't want over flood in here, he is advertising for the kits everywhere, but it doesn't matter as you said Now we are waiting for a reply from the developers, after that the strike will be over, but if Raphael will keep flooding the pages with the new kits then this is a disrespect to all of us There is a strategy by some of non loyals called "Separate and you shall prevail" "Divide and Conquer" be aware of that P.S. at time of Ms tanki, i voted for Raphael2 because was the only one who got all things together within the video :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zTMJ6TSM2c

Dear Raphael, you are a forum newspaper moderator and you keep advertising for the new kits not respecting the old players demands "some are saying that the kits were your idea" Please we ask you a little patience until the developers will answer our request There is a discussion about a partial refund, then the strike will be over according to the response Thank you

Yes, I do know how hard it is to be in the staff. It is a matter of personality; if you are weak, you can't survive long as a staff member. Dear Raphael, you have always been a great person, loving and kind we are not objecting against the kits, its the right of tanki to have funds, and we said that in many of our posts everywhere, and this will make new players don't get in panic when playing against high rank players And talking more constructively, we are with refunding all the garages since such major changes happened "physics, MU, kits" Many spent lot of money or time to get into their items and that really would hurt their feelings, they were the cheer leaders to publish and talk about the game everywhere You can't just underestimate them like this Thats the point, Refund old players, so that all will be having equal chances. Later it will come the MU, do you have an idea how much it needs to keep trying to upgrade thunder m3 to m4? ;)

For your info dear Raphael2, me and adam-909 each spent more than 800 dollars on our accounts, means 1600 dollars, we are buyers as well.. The message is crystal clear, we both have all M3 for our ranks, but we are speaking in the tongue of the majority, are you still against the majority? do you know how much efforts the mods in here did to get into their ranks and to be mods? Have you seen a generalissimos driving viking m2 with m2 gun? i have seen a lot of that with Generalissimos, isn't that sad for you?by refunding old players, it will bring back the equation. Where is the problem with refunding the old players dear Raphael? That was your opinion that i personally respect, but i don't know about others

Posted 28 Sep 2013 - 20:51 DidYouKnowThat Posted 28 Sep 2013 - 20:51They don't give anything about the English community. Do this on the Russian community and they might. :P They will do something, we are sure they respect our opinion, Dear Old Tanki Players, including mods ofcourse, please stop answering questions under this topic for the honor of old tanki players and for your honor and respect We are sure developers are aware of this problem and they are working to fix it, but until then we are waiting Thank you

Close this thread if you respect the majority of the old tanki players in the name of the majority we are talking Unless Refund, no one in the English community will be sharing in discussions FB is nothing compared to the game rating, the FB rating was just a well studied game to provide a good cover for reputation before this massive epic failure Please don't share in threads if you respect the damaged respect of our old players Thank you

sorry, am not the captain in here, its in the name of all old players we all are gona try to close threads until a refund, its a total disobedience, who is gona be with us will be respected, those who wont, will be ... "our respect is not by the silly thumbs" Thread closed please

For the new unacceptable update, we the European and Middle Eastern Society ask those who don't agree with the current changes in tanki not to share in hulls and turrets comments anymore until they do a refund Please distribute this message Thanks

Listen people, you are talking about buyers?? i am a big buyer ! i bought with more than 900 dollars believe it or not, and now to see after i bought all kind of things for my rank, all paints all guns, and then they do such a discount ! this is totally unfair for the buyers as well ! and now after i spent all the money, someone newbie will come to buy all M3 kits for a Generalissimos that i couldn't do it

+1 Count me in

Yes totally agree, refund to all garage must happen.. man this is really sick :wacko:

my pathetic shaft RIP Just in case they let the scope moves faster after the max zoom it will get back in action :) http://tankionline.com/tankiref.swf?hash=2ae65f2c4&server=tankionline.com&.swf

lets paste our suggestions on improving shaft within the suggestions' page of tanki

Hello I just bought Shaft m3 Can you tell me what battles are good for shaft? TDM, CTF, or DM? and what are the favorite maps and if you can tell me the precise good spots for camping to snipe Thanks

It seems some people are not reading the main post well, they said the maximal discount is 50% it means not more than 50% it means impossible to reach up to 65% You can guess a 45% discount or 47%

Until now just 13,500 views of the youtube video.. try harder guys

Thanks a lot, am sure since we didn't do any mistake, then they will bring us back our rights, i am sure 100% because we did nothing wrong. there are angels in some people and i hear some more angels coming, me too, my friend told me not to play so that not to count things wrong and to get back to my previous state. so am holding my breaths with faith, some may say its just a game, but when you look at the efforts we did to get into these items, then everybody can imagine, and we did pay a lot for the game, i didn't get lot of real things for my room, just to save money for the game. Keep on hope

Thanks a lot, we owe you a big favor

I totally agree, this message have to reach the highest game adms to have an idea about whats going on .. i am looking to find away to contact them, because what happened to us was a great loss in items and efforts of so so many months of playing honestly .. I always buy crystals, but now my dad told me he wont pay me a cent if this problem wont be fixed I am sure the administrators of tanki will help in this issue and looking forward for the Forum mods to direct this message to the people in concern I just kept receiving same message by help center as if i am a criminal ! that was very offensive, while i always shared in giving advices to new players and people in here, and bringing good reputation to the game.. i have so many players and users who pay, who are going to stop paying if the problem wont be fixed. I ask the moderators to send this message of help to the adms I got one good reply by one in the support team, but once the shifts changed, somebody new came and repeated the same reply "AM CRIMINAL" I just wanted to play descent, i never insulted anyone, always respected everybody in the game, even when they cross their lines.. Thank you forum's mods

This is great for friends to play together .. thanks