that didn't just answer my question, it boosted my confidence as well! haha thank you. as for your question, I saw in another thread that you were recommended getting Vesivius. in my opinion, Vulcan requires a Heavy hull. its definitely playable with a Medium hull, but as you can tell from my previous post, I aim to have both Viking and Titan M2 (along with Loam for Firebird protection since Vulcan requires overheating a lot) for my Vulcan account - in other words, I don't recommend it. Atlas is good though.

atlas. Loam and Winter are of the same price, except Winter is useless as you've said. also, Atlas is cheaper because Titan M2 is cheaper than Viking M2, but is definitely the better hull to go with Smoky M2.

dude, those are two different accounts - check the links. I bought Fighter kit on the account that I used to have Thunder. I just bought Predator kit on the account that has been using Lizard kit (along with other turrets and hulls it got from the low rank kits). anyway, question relating to kits: can a WO3 account with no crystals at all, collect enough crystals to buy Vesivius kit at 1st Lieutenant? and since Atlas kit unlocks at the rank after that (Captain), around what rank will it be able to buy it? I ask because there is another option I can think of, but it will not include getting a Viking M2 (so I don't like it much), which is: get Vulcan M2 at 2nd Lieutenant (still using Viking/Titan M1), then get Atlas at Captain. I'm confident with my ability to get a good amount of crystals per rank because of the daily missions and because I've already topped scoreboards with Vulcan M0 at Sergeant Major.

so, are we going to have any kits available to buy after the current expires? or should I go ahead and buy Predator kit for my WO1 account? despite my success with M0 Thunder, I didn't like it.

thank you for understanding(ish :)). I just did. just really bummed that the rare chance my Titan account can get a gold was missed due to taking gold boxes being client-sided, especially when it really needs the crystals to buy Predator kit.

dude, READ THE ENTIRE POST. you just contradicted every part of my post regarding what happened. what, are you the one who saw/experienced what happened now? my position never changed since I parked my tank on the terrain that has the "gold drop site" icon on it because why the heck would I drive around when the gold box is going to drop right on top of me? I was already there way before the gold box even appeared in the sky. also, the enemy who killed the guy who took the gold box is the same enemy who killed me (railgun penetrated me killing me and the guy who took the gold box), how could I be dead already, if the guy who took the gold box died the same time as me but was still alive to take it?

and when its part of tanki that is to blame for missed gold box opportunities, the player should be compensated for given he has enough proof, which I do. uhm, nobody asked... I lagged because my father was surfing the internet using the other computer - probably uploading some file to send with an e-mail because that's part of his job. remember, I did see everything smoothly, so I do have good download speed (I can see the server telling me I have 999 ping after all), but missing gold boxes, as far as I know, is the result of having not able to upload the fact that your tank touched the gold box. so, my father was definitely uploading something cutting me off of any upload speed to tell the server I'm supposed to have grabbed the gold box already.

no, I was under the gold box drop site for a long time (please read the entire post next time before posting a response), I never moved, even though I had both allies and enemies try to push me out of the way - so my "last detected position" was there with the gold box. I didn't even know I had 999 ping until I openned paint and pasted the screenshot I took - the game was running smoothly, just that the lag caused me to be unable to get any drop - we all know lag causes that. if the server thought that I wasn't there, then how did the enemy kill both me and the guy who took the gold box with that railgun shot?

what happened: the gold box sat inside my Titan M1 for a full 1 second or more before Henkske_Vanh (the Hornet/Shaft ally on my right) was able to take it (he pushed from the side). don't know why I couldn't get it as everything seem to be fine (I saw that everyone was moving smoothly - not as if I was lagging badly) but as can be seen on the screenshot below, I did lag so I guess that prevented me from getting the gold box. still, I was definitely supposed to get it as I was alive (used double armor and repaired myself to full when the gold drop announcement appeared) and under the gold box drop way before it even reached the ground (I nearly died before it fell as there was enemies in front of me - as can be seen on the upper right of the screenshot, they died). how do I know that I was alive to get it despite the lag? it says on the upper right of the screenshot that the guy who took the gold box and I was killed with one shot by one guy - that guy who fired the railgun on both of us (visible on the screenshot). by the way, as can be seen, I was using my alt account RAG1NG_FERNO, not this one I use in the forums.

that's why I said 150m, max range is 200m. tried Vulcan M0 and only thing I didn't like is the very long spin-up and spin-down combined with its terrible damage. but M1 has like 40% more damage and the spin times are also less so I'm going to proceed and get one for my WO3.

so I got Storm for it now - don't read entire quote if you know what I'm talking about already. so my question now is, should I still buy Desert for the massive Ricochet and Hammer protection ? the mosquito is not available for him right now, that's why I said buy it during Tanki birthday if its available - meaning if he already ranked up enough to unlock it (should have no crystal problem even if he bought Tundra unless he spent his crystals on something instead of saving it like I said) and if he even wanted it then.

no, only Prodigi and Digital beats Tundra's rail protection. and he can't buy either of those right now. if he wants a paint now (since paints are discounted), Tundra is his best option.

Stinger kit is just one rank higher than you. unless you buy crystals, you'll never get enough crystals to buy it as a Warrant Officer - you'd be Third Lieutenant before you can get the crystals for it. since you seem to like Railgun though, I'd say buy Tundra while its discounted if you can - its less than 20k cry, and you still have 10 hours left, shouldn't be too hard as long as you can play since we have x1.25 battle funds right now. or save for now and buy Sandstone on tanki birthday. if you get to Captain by then, then buy Mosquito kit as well.

are you saying I shouldn't bother with Desert? because I can buy both Desert and Storm.

Not just good, its DAMN OP! I just wrecked two Hammer M1 players (one had Hornet M1, the other had Viking M1) in a DM (they teamed against me) with Osaka kit without even using that 20% Hammer protection paint it came with - I was testing out my newly bought Roger paint, which has 15+1% Hammer protection (+1 because of 10 cry MU). I even survived when they attacked me from both sides one time - the one with Viking had Double Armor, I had Double Damage. stole as much life as I can from the one with Viking/Double Armor (killing him) so I can survive their attacks and force a reload to give me some time and recharge (I didn't have full charge when they attacked because there was a Twins/Viking M0 player who didn't damage me because of Roger's Twins protection and my Double Damage). finished the battle with I think 28 kills, they both had around 10 kills each - that Twins/Viking was just food for all of us because he is all M0, his attacks felt almost like a Twins M1 though (great knockback and decent damage).

oh, just used one in battle. I thought there was a reload time because of the charge bar, but it seems to be there just to represent the time left to start overheating as it goes back up to full just as the barrels stop spinning no matter how much of the bar was used. thanks for confirming the overheat damage. I guess 150m is a very long range anyway so (assuming you don't have firebird protection paint) trading your life for your target that far away is not enough to make the weapon suck.

my question back at page 1556... do note that being an alt account, I will probably stick to the turrets mentioned (I have other accounts for other turrets) but if you have a much better suggestion that requires a different turret, I'm up for it. ranking up to WO4 is not possible within the week as it just ranked up to WO3.

as I've said, you need better equipment as soon as possible. up to you what discount day you want to get, but don't wait for next month, you'd be too high rank if you wait that long, as it is, you have so much more crystals than a WO5 normally has because you skipped all M1s. kits are always discounted so I don't see why you even decided to wait for the May sale announcement before finally deciding to buy something... just a reminder though, I warned you of Dictator Ricochet being not very good. that Ricochet won't last you very long especially if you stick to Dictator (don't bother with any M1 hull though) or don't make use of the ricochet ability much.

wait a minute... Vulcan M4's damage per second is 60, if it takes 30 damage per second from maximum afterburn damage, then wtf? and that 60 damage per second is only up to 50m, if the target is at 100m, it only does 45, then 30 at 150m. someone please confirm if this is correct.

sales dont have an effect of the price of kits,so u should/can buy it now yes they do, he can save a lot from waiting for the paint discount, even more so for the turret discount but that is a couple days more away.

dude, check the weapon yourself, damage drop starts at 15m (whichever level it is), and damage drops down to 1-20% (1 for M0, 20 for M4) at max range. http://en.tankiwiki.com/Twins Twins would be stupidly OP if it had 20 damage per shot (80 damage per second) up to 80m (M4 range). that's only 4.2 damage for M4... also, what you didn't mention - Vulcan has instant hit bullets while Twins has much slower projectiles than Ricochet. Twin's projectile radius is a big problem - Vulcan shots is rarely blocked by teammates or destroyed tanks if the shooter knows where to aim because of the lack of projectile radius. Vulcan has very good auto-aim angles. those are the key advantages of Vulcan over Twins in my opinion, other than the obvious range advantage. lastly, I know they are very different weapons (as if any weapon in this game are actually similar?), the reason I compared them is because they both fire a continuous stream of bullets/projectiles and can do so for as long as their hull can handle all the damage its taking. not going to compare Vulcan to Rail or Shaft ever because those two weapons doesn't suffer any damage drop at all. as for comparing weapons with damage drop, the best comparisons to make would be between those having similar maximum damage range. (in order of maximum damage per second) Firebird 5m Freeze 5m Isida 16-23m Twins 15m Vulcan 32-50m Hammer 48.3-65m Ricochet 60-80m Smoky 40-60m Thunder 51-70m Railgun x Shaft x as can be clearly seen, Vulcan has much higher maximum damage range so like I said, "the reason I compared them is because they both fire a continuous stream of bullets/projectiles and can do so for as long as their hull can handle all the damage its taking." this "apples and oranges" phrase is used improperly too much. you can compare apples with oranges. if all you do is compare apples with apples, or oranges with oranges, you are not doing a full comparison, you are just measuring. definition of compare: estimate, measure, or note the similarity or dissimilarity between.

that's a long time away, even if all you do everyday are your daily missions, I'm guessing you will be WO5 if not higher by then. I started playing my very low rank alt accounts just last month yet they are already WO1s, one of them is even WO3 (don't really know how it ranked so fast compared to the others) I only played them for daily missions, and if I have the time and the daily mission rewarded premium time, I played for a few more battles (definitely not the full 3 hours). I see you have Fighter kit though, were you a WO2 or below, I would suggest Striker kit for the Viking M1 and Swash paint. but still, Viking M1 is cheap so even if its just 25% off, you might want to consider buying it. having a Medium Hull option is always nice.

I wanted the Striker kit (Viking and Swash, don't care about Smoky M1) for my WO3 account, not this one. also, there are only three M2 hulls available at third lieutenant (one rank above WO5), all of which only available through kit, one of them is not even available at the moment - M2 Hunter from Pitbull kit. anyway, I wouldn't have ranked past it if the previous kits didn't take the entire month before expiring.

when I mentioned your score per hour, I meant your overall, not just your recent. but its understandable because you use very weak equipment for your rank. anyway, if you really want boar kit and play Rio or Noise most of the time, the aiming problem I mentioned shouldn't be much of an issue since both are tight maps so just use that Dictator M2 and keep your crystals for paints or MUs. still, you should keep in mind that such an issue exists and you may still encounter it a few times especially if you have plenty of fast opponents who are always trying to avoid your powerful Ricochet M2 bullets.

can't suggest much unless you tell your preference - what do you like? short range mid range long range speed protection balance you can't have them all. I would say get better (discounted) equipment as soon as possible, you seem to be a good player (since you have 1+ k/d ratio) but your score per hour is poor (just slightly above 1 000 per hour). my alt accounts have at least 3 k/d ratio without drugging (except on rare occasion against drugging opponents or gold box) and way more than 2 000 score per hour (was even surprised to see one of them having more than 3 000 on its low rank weapon - Twins) on their primary weapons - they all have different primary weapons. here's a few suggestions though: Siberian kit - the combo is not good, don't bother unless you are mixing it with your other stuff. Fortress kit - don't buy so you can buy Bulldozer. Osaka kit - a cheaper, and in my opinion, better alternative to Stinger kit - read my post above. Tornado kit - Railgun isn't really all that great as far as I know - why do you think they made a battle format just for it? Boar kit - while it lets you get high rank equipment, you still have to rank up for it (will you even make it?). I'm not a fan of Dictator either. I do like Ricochet though, and I'm pretty sure it needs a low hull like the Viking or Hornet - the other hulls will cause you to miss moving targets a lot because your shots will be flying in a straight line when leading the moving target and the height of every other hull will make your shots have to hit the small turret hitbox of enemy tanks if not fly over them completely (in case of the very tall Dictator). the paint doesn't match the turret (Ricochet) either in my opinion.