Ricochet can get 1st place easily... İf the map is on medium size, and if there is no more player than 5-6, maybe 8 etc, and if no one has ricochet protection with weapons mentioned.. But for example, Isida can be 1at at any game, except some DM games on very big and open maps like Madness or Massacre.

^^ This.. The weakest turret of the game. Useful? Yesç Works great its respected place? Yes. However, it is too easily countered and too easily disabled. Just a paint or heal drug totally breaks the game. After a certain amount of player, the weapon reaches its damage limit and gets owerehelmed by twins, smoky, thunder, vulcan... Definitely the worst turet for drug battles. The weapons I mentioned continously shoots, so have no problem at drug battles. Firebird has afterburn, spread shoot and higher DPS. Freeze shoots relatively hightime for higher DPS, with "freeze" effect. Hammer loses only 4 seconds, while ricochet loses about 10 seconds. shaft and railgun also has drug problems, but at least they can one-shot kill or kill-steal; and they higher instant damage. Places to use ricochet's ability is not many. God, my 3000 crystals of worth Dragon legacy module allows me kill M4 ricochets at polygon. :D I wish I had Ricochet M3, I would really use it. But I cannot spend my crystals on that current situation of the game, especially I can make twins-paint combinations or smoky-paint combinations; or even shaft-paint combinations. I only suggest this weapon to someone has special interest to this weapon.

If your keyboard can use 4 buttons at the same time, go for vulcan Otherwise, go for twins, with some heavy hull.

"Blaster" kit Shaft M3 Mammoth M3 Ursa T-B Progidi

So, you use isida.. Well, Isidas are my favorite target, with railguns. :D When I use twins in CP games, I intentionally spot Isidas; especially If they have DP, and especially if he can't respond my attack right that moment. When I use shaft, I act pretty much the same. The only difference is I like using DP to one-shot isidas. ^_^ I also have Mars paint, and I am considering buying İsida protection at Tanker's day. Guess we will have a hell of a fight when you reach my rank. :lol: EDİT: Fairly, I am trying to use my hull as a shield for Isidas, when they are teammates. :ph34r:

I have shaft M4, and it is not weak. Just, not very adaptive On your rank, it is weak, correct.. However, you will like it after M2 :)

Yes :) Thanks for help

Upgrading my Dictator M2 to M3 costs 166151 crystals Buying Dictator M3 at %25 discount costs 167250 crystals(35/50 MU now) Buying Dictator M3 at %50 discount costs 115000 crystals I can buy Mammoth and a protection module at %25 or %50 anyway I can buy one more protection module if %50 happens, and can buy 2 if I don't MU my dictator If %25 discount happens on Tanker's day, It will be a profitable job. Also, I will gain more crystals until Tanker's day. If %50 discount happens on Tanker's day, My loss is 51151 crystals Should I do that?

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There is no and and you should not( I think so, at least) That's a real annoying manipulation...

This time... I agree :unsure: Complainnig like that is fairly ridicilous. It is not like players smart enough to think about Tanki trying to "sue us" does not think about possible upcoming sales :rolleyes: And it is not like random sales gives no advantage to some random players. If I want, I can MU my Twins and still buy 3 or 4 items on Tanker's day, depending on sale ratio..

Summary: Problem: Thunder is UP Solution: Make thunder OP Really? -_- I personally don't think thunder is UP. Thunder's problems are: Lack of diversity in games makes some "unsuitable" weapons look like UP, but this is just an image Protection paints limits some weapons harsly, like thunder Smoky is "over-useful" Upgrading splash function would be great for thunder IMO.. Thunder would have some over-hand by using splash. Fairly, Thunder's damage and reload is fairly hard to fight against without protection. Nothing will stand against if we make it 78-145 every 2 seconds... Only weapons have better range than Thunder are Shaft and Railgun.. Thunder's splash impact force is fairly high( was 500 if remember corrrectly), corsidering this weapon is not based on splash So,

My target is playing on every map, but I play DM on maps no smaller than Sandal or Atra, CP on every map (preferably crowded ones), and CTF only as defender.

My equipment is Shaft M4 Twins M3(9/50) Smoky M2(18/50) Isida M1 Firebird M1 Railgun M0 Thunder M0 Dictator M2 (35/50 MU) Mammoth M2 (25/50) Viking M1 Wasp M0 Hunter M0 Old paints Jade Mars Cherry Sandstone Dragon Lead Swamp A good amount of drugs(I increase my drug amount gradually) And 515k crystals I guess I will have about 620k when I reach Gsimmo rank, possibly before Tanker's day. I will definetely buy some hulls, most likely 2 of Hunter, Dictator and Mammoth I am considering buying Smoky M3, but I most likely won't... Most likely I will buy Hunter instead of Smoky I also want to buy some protection. My plan is either supporting my only one M4 as good as possible and combining my Twins with a good protection and a suitable hull, or supporting my only M4 as good as possible and covering my slow hulls with suitable weapons on every range.. I am thinking one of these= Smoky-Railgun-Ricochet Thunder-Railgun-Ricochet Smoky-Railgun-Thunder Which one should I prefer?

Why should I buy Titan?

My equipment is Shaft M4 Twins M3(9/50) Smoky M2(18/50) Isida M1 Firebird M1 Railgun M0 Thunder M0 Dictator M2 (35/50 MU) Mammoth M2 (25/50) Viking M1 Wasp M0 Hunter M0 Old paints Jade Mars Cherry Sandstone Dragon Lead Swamp A good amount of drugs(I increase my drug amount gradually) And 510k crystals I guess I will be Generallissimo rank before Tankers Day, September 8. Also, I think I will have at least 620k crystals when I get Gsimmo rank. And I hope there will be a discount. When I started the game, I didn't know there would be an update which allows us buy equipments without buying previous versions. So, I made a plan about warrant officer ransk about my equipments. I decided to buy Shaft, Twins, Dictator and Mammoth. Then I had a chance and bought Smoky M2 and bunch of paints too. Now, I can play with Generallissimo players, even with my M2 hulls. However, both because It is hard to find suitable battles and my hulls are a little weak, I am not effective enough at some modes, especially Control Points, some CTF games and very small maps. But also, I am effectice at some modes with my currrent equipment anyway :) So, I was planning to buy Dictato and Mammoth M3 with Kodiak T-F M3. However, now I am not sure about losing my old hulls, as I can buy some other M3 equipments to cover game types I can't play yet. Instead of buying Mammoth M3 and Dictator M3, I might buy Hunter M3 and Smoky M3, or maybe I can buy one of Dictator and Mammoth, and buy Smoky or hunter. I am not thinking about buying anything lover than Marshall rank. What should I do, from your perspective?

"I am from *TURKEY*, can you add me please?"

I have seen "Turkey" on names, why not America? It is not like "Admin" or "hacker" anyway...

He is one less than Gsimmo rank.. Me too :D

They do, but they don't cover all.

This update and paint seperation update have one common point in my opinion. I guess they are both for creating new ways of pursharing crystals without breaking the balance of the game. Players are commonly complaining about that buyers right? And common arguments about this topic are going around on the forum without changing anything? These type of updates are for breaking this apart and repairing the current gameplay from some points. It provides two things at the same time: 1. Making buyers buy things 2. Doing that without affecting game balance to worse So, at that case; even though I hated the update from some points too; I support the update due that update exactly adds the game what what it needs.

I think the most useful options are: Twins-isida paint Firebird Shaft-DP

I barely read the text, was hard to read from that background.. Otherwise, well; let's see! :)

Fairly asking.. Are Smoky and Isida OP? I just wanna hear opinions as just these turrets pull my attention as a little OP.