Unfortunately my friend, this game has become about fast money grabbing with very little improvement. Your friend was correct. Many more are leaving. ...peace

You mean a bigger ripoff with better graphics. Yep!

Here2Play, Your post is truthful, expressive and well written. I thank you for taking the time to put this info down in a concise and clear manner. I agree with every word and from all that I've read here, so do many others. All that has developed is about greed and more greed. The buyers can celebrate all they want. I will just sit here and wait to hear the backlash when they realize that all of this new money they spend won't get transferred to the new game. Sigh. I wish you well in all you do. I, myself have stopped playing both of my accounts. I can't afford to join a rich man's country club game. I originally answered your post when it was in the game discussion section, but as I posted they must have been moving it and I was shown that, "I didn't have permission to view this topic"???? Glad I found it again....................................Peace

From all points of view this is a very bad update except for the players who found themselves with birthday presents in their garages. Good luck with all of that. As has been said above by many, it's a horrendous way to do business and treat players, (and yes I've heard all the arguments about how the devs need to live. Theres earning and then there's greed. welcome to greed 101) Personally one of the few "feel good" moments that I've had here has been when I was trying to figure out what quaity I would MU next on my tank. It made me feel that I was developing my strategy and kept me excited for the future of my own gameplay. That is gone now. There is no way I can afford to MU anything in this game. I was already not playing this acct anymore due to the drug issue but, now, even my new acct is too expensive to do anything with. Nice job Tanki. I'm gonna hang around and read the forum and see where this goes, but the developers of this game have actually pushed me away. From what I hear above, I'm not alone. Congrats Tanki, on an absolutely total screwup on your part. By the way, am I wrong or has there been no word yet if accounts will be transferred to the next installment of this living hell. My feeling is no. That being said, if that ends up being true, then why are you supporters of this all so happy?

Agreed. Absolutely, agreed!

Wow! I've never actually heard the term" reduces the grind" in regard to playing a game. This is a game....correct? In regard to people and ideas, they have been speaking out everywhere with ideas that of course are NOT being listened to as usual. So, knowing that... What exactly is your point?

Premium accounts....So you can put in time and hard work just like you would do for anything in life that's worthwhile or, you can buy your way without the sweat just like rich people in real life. What a wonderful option..........................not!

It is obvious that this so called "update" is just more fuel on the fire of dissent that TO seems to love. This is an invasion of privacy of the highest order. No one was asked by a poll or a vote how they felt about this ahead of time. It's obvious, just from the replies that I have been reading that this will raise the player to player bully level another notch. There is no reason to publicly show what each has in their garages. It doesn't even have that much to do with what's in it. It's just that it was done suddenly and now people who don't want to share this have no choice. I know I certainly would never look at someone elses belongings. I wasn't raised that way. Before you start, please stop with the TO defending cry of "it's only a game." If it was only a game you hard core supporters wouldn't fight so hard about every little thing that opposes your views. Admit it, this is your drug. So stop putting down people who see through the smoke. To kids, I'm sure they think it's great. Now they can think of new nasty names and put downs to throw out there. I agree completely with the fact that people will be able to figure out who spends money by knowing time spent playing. Also...welcome hackers.. please pour yourself a drink and relax while you go through EVERYONE'S ownings. If you listen to the people voicing their disagreement on this public viewing, you will hear that it's because they have spent a great deal of time and thought on what they have gathered. Why should they share it and who said it was ok to just open it all up like this. it's a shameful show of disrespect for the playerbase on a whole. As for me..I have gone back and forth a couple of times on leaving due to other issues that TO refuses to fix. I guess I will thank them now for pushing me to finally leave this mess. I cannot stay in a place that randomly gives and takes whatever they want from their players and just expects them to follow meekly. There is nothing here but anger, anxiety and foolish badly behaving children, but since TO lets that go unchecked, I guess we shouldn't be surprised by this occuring. Good luck to all ......peace

When I started and had no idea at all how this worked I thought you could just buy tanks and use them when you wanted. I had no idea of upgrades or the cost of upgrades and such, I had never played a tank game before. So I have a bunch of never used turrets and a few never used hulls in my garage that were bought, foolishly in the beginning. Excuse me for not mentioning them they are unimportant and were purchased with rank earnings. Feel better? As I learned more, I realized I could only afford one tank, which is what I've done. Since you seem to know everything, you know upgrades on these two is very expensive. One is all I use and all I ever will and it doesn't surprise me that you don't get the comparisons to life. Maybe your " Wiki" can explain them to you. You seem to be very informed about a great deal of non- things, I mean...just ask you. Your come hear after posting a topic that you started, which after a minimum of what sounded like an explanation, turned in to a lot of posturing and " look at me" ranting and raving and choose to reply instead to the words that were spoken between myself and Dragon-Judgement (which have been resolved without your help, thank- you.) Man you are all over the board. Oh..excuse me I probably should not disagree with you or you might..um.."turn me into toast", I believe was your statement. Your topic was nothing more than a thinly veiled threat toward others and a vivid display of bad manners. It was nothing but a rant and even you should know it. Yet, you choose to then attack my words when you have no grasp of who you are. Your words portray you as a bully. Are you? What did you hope to achieve anyway? And, oh yeah, when was the last time someone said they needed you as their attorney? I'm guessing.........never. Nice try.

I appreciate the insight, thoughtfulness and calm that you show in your reply. Thank you for all your advice, I will absorb this and apply it accordingly.I also understand our differing points of view on the subject of fighting and while I certainly do not disagree with what you have said, our opinions, I guess will always differ and that's ok. I didn't reveal my personal info for pity or any other reason, I did it to show you that as far as "I" was concerned there was a thought process behind my words. Once again I have to take a moment here to thank you for truly reading them. That you chose empathy to show your understanding means a great deal to me and shows me that I am conversing with a person of knowledge. Please believe me when I tell you that your insight and examples regarding how you see TO and the fighting here are certainly understood by me on many levels. In closing I would like to share with you how my philosophy on fighting was developed. Briefly...Grew up in a brutal lower working class housing project the oldest of 8 Fighting was survival and I was small my saviour came in the form of a retired navy officer, friend of my father's. He helped me channel a nasty temper and taught me how to defend myself.Fighting was an everyday thing. I am pleased to say that I never once started a fight, but I learned to to finish them, either through talking,avoidance or last ditch effort,ending the conflict physically. My teacher taught me to think about the other person and their actions and reasons for their unbalance. I developed a philosophy of always treating my opponent with whatever degree of honor could be shown at these times. That philosophy carried me through the nastiness of Vietnam, and all else that I've done to this day. My philosophy allows me to use only the level of skill needed to win. I understand brutality on levels that some never see and yet compared to some people my story is tame. This is who I am. This is how I live. So... I deeply appreciate your kind words and insights and I feel that I may have met a friend here. I also wish you well in all you do. Namaste, mitakouayson and most of all...........Peace

There is no sense in talking to you "wise" players but I will answer... I work 12 to 14 hours a day, sometimes 6 days a week to support a family, so I dont have hours and hours to play . There was no mismanagement. From the beginning I liked twins/hunters and that is what I've kept, at this point they are M2 and not anywhere fully Mued. It's an expensive pair to bring up to level. So, let's recap for you folks so together maybe you will understand. Few hours to play and those spent fighting losing drug battles. Many times I won less than 100 cry, maybe I can play 4-6 battles a week At this moment I have a grand total of 942 cry. I don't buy anything but mu's when I'm allowed to get some cry and have saved the ridiculous amounts that are needed for each one. At this time I spend all my time as a defender, helping teams. Maybe I get in your way enough so, the flag carrier gets away. It's what I do now because offensive playing is almost impossible, not the best situation but I always put my all into it. Anyway, thanks for pointing out my lack of funds and such. I also have no real money to spend so I don't buy crystals....What do you think? Anything else you need to know? You insult my money management when you ,as usual have no idea what you are saying. If you are in a better situation you should be thankful. In closing I will tell you how I justify a fight as fair.. I have been training people to be balanced and centered for over 40 years through the Martial arts and Reiki. I have served my country and came out disabled. I know all about fights and the concepts. Fighting by itself is not fair, but, if the minds and beliefs of the combatants are in a place of fairness and honesty, then they always strive to win through skills and learned ability. One does not show up with armor and a sword to a bare hands fight. Also, I have no intention of arguing or discussing anything with you anymore. You are completely narrow-minded and self serving. I wish you well in your lack of a pursuit of fairness. Oh, almost forgot..no I don't do daily missions. I don't have hours to spend so I mostly just fight in Rio Ctf, it's where the twins work best. Peace

You don't seem to get it. For limited and low income players these options are ridiculous. We don't have the drugs to "bite back", so the answer you gave is out of context. Usually large numbers leave losing cry and wasting the time they've put in. Just like your friend you gave thumbs up to, your truer feelings come out in your words. If we want a fair fight? If?? That's what this whole controversy is about and you just slammed it. Nice. The druggers and buyers all have the same answers as you do. This only goes to show the callous indifference that is practiced here. I have never had 5000 cry in my account and only own one tank, so please don't tell people without means how it should be done.For the record?,due to the current situation, my battles are all about trying and helping ,without enhancements. Have a nice day.

And....those who cannot afford Pro pass or don't want to drug? Or, does the thinking not go that far ? By the way, nice self-centered answer.

Dragon- Judgement, Apparently you are not capable of controlling your emotions long enough to have a discussion. Not a surprise.Your choice is to go right to a rant.Good for you. You can choose to treat me anyway you want it won't affect me in the slightest. Let's look at your reply. The fact that you dont give a damn is obvious, although most people who take the time to point that out, really do give a damn. The whole point of the conversation is about the imbalance caused by ,as you put it, "Something that's put in the game for us to be used as we like." See here's the line that appears. The issue is not whether you can use what you want, in every town large and small in the world you will find drugs, illegal guns, gambling, prostitution and so on. The dealers of these items put them there for you to use. Does that mean everyone should? The real issue is that players who don't drug are losing big time. This is about awareness of an unfair issue. You can talk all night about what they put in the game but, people need to think about the effects of their actions if it is to stay a game. You did call it a game right? As far back as I can remember, games were supposed to be fun. It's not fun losing 10 to 0 soley because of drugs. Next..."if you can't beat them join them" is a total defeatist attitude and shows a lack of self motivation and personal thinking. Why would I ever consider being part of a group that only achieves self worth through over enhancement and abuse? I never would. I have a sense of fair play and sportsmanship, oh yeah, and a conscience. Next... When I wrote my reply I had never heard of you and have no image of you one way or the other, you are the one who identified yourself by reciting your actions. So, take a moment before you start accusing people of things that aren't said.Those words were yours and apparently, the way you went off you feel a need to defend yourself. I can say this with full knowing and honesty, If you are a drugger then you are very easy to read. Instead of a fair and balanced battle where rewards are earned, you prefer to steal and cheat your way through, and yet, you honestly believe your motives are pure because you say you are helping the team? Really, by your own words, you seem to be the joke here. Perhaps when you have gained some life experience you will be able to constructively debate an issue, In the meantime, it's ok if you throw something. I have been around much too long to be insulted by your kind of talk, but, nice try at making a point. By the way, if your using drugs against someone who isn't? You win nothing. Maybe "YOU" should consider that.......Einstein

So...you're saying that winning, no matter what the cost, is the ultimate goal? That, even though this is only a game (not like real war at all), concepts such as fair play, honesty and such have no place here if the choice is that brief moment of drugged euphoria? So, tell me, the other team that gets rolled over in these drug fests (I have been on the receiving end almost constantly)' how should they feel about their game, their time in, crystals they can't earn because of your " adrenaline rush ". This game should be called "Rabid Tanker". The mindset of the drugged is selfish, self serving, egotistical and abusive. To knows exactly what they created here and it will definitely be their downfall since they choose not to balance you "warriors" out. Just remember that the way you act here is a deeper reflection of who you really are. Have a nice day.

Agnostick certainly has his own opinion and is entitled to it, just like everyone else. I Don't agree with him about supplies. They are hurtful and cause a world of grief and, just like everyone else who seems to use them like they breathe air, he had to go right to the inflated egotism and puffed out chest. I see it and feel it in almost every battle. I agree that he had really written a good piece until he put his cause on. Heard it before. Not impressed.

TO........career?.........sigh

Not a chance! This is nothing more than a diversion from things that should be fixed, but you all have fun.

*sigh*

Hunter and twins

I know this is supposed to be some sort of banner in back of the icons, but it just looks like the icons are sitting on a piece of furled toilet paper. Appropriate, I guess.

Very sad and pathetic so called update!

canadarules I guess you don't understand that there is an emotional side to this issue. When you invest time, learning and thought into getting better at anything you become somewhat attached to your endeavors.You speak very clinically about the nature of business and treat what everyone here has to say as if it's unimportant. You don't seem to understand that sometimes, when things are just shoved at people,it can create a backlash. No one likes to feel as if they are unimportant. A lot of the time the functionality of business and blind faith go hand in hand. It's a horrible demand on the part of businesses and one that I personally deplore. So, stop preaching that every single commentor here should have a better business accumen and just accept this, and stop calling us all names. Whiners? really? I have lived over 6 decades and have been in business for most of that one way or the other. People are real and they matter. They are not robots to just jump on command. Human beings are all different and should be allowed that privilege. The premium accounts are just another imbalance when we are already swimming in them. Maybe if your business hat wasn't clouding your eyes you might actually see what is happening here. Here's what I know about any business....keep diminishing your customer service through lack of response to critical issues, keep rolling over people as if they are not there and you will find yourself alone. Just you and your business. This is important and everyone has the right to say how they feel about it. Thanks for listenening...................Peace

Sure.

Lol. Exactly. Very well put.