You sound blessed Good luck with life n' stuff

Arright, this sounds nice. Too bad im not that good at remembering the avg speed of hornet, the names of the three 1st tanki maps or the amount of goldboxes caught by MLMcore... Anyways gl for people with better general knowledge on tanki

Great to hear that, you just keep on grinding don't you :P Bought firewall on 0dysseus... and it's stupidly op

A few years back i took a year offline time, i had alot more fun than i have writing homework. ez decision

.... If that is actually how they thought of it... well that is scammy asf.

Exactly my plans m8

SHHHH, you might reduce the amount of buyer by telling them there are other ways to win than buying more drugs and MUs. And we wouldn't like that would we? :ph34r:

That's the real plot-twist. Science has gone too far

Now that is something you don't see everyday at tanki. Good job man :lol: I made an attempt for pt2, sorry for the flawed use of english. ;) Some nights i can't get sleep. My neighbor never had any respect for me, he doesn't care about the other people who live in this block. It's 1 of those nights again, his music plays on an ungodly volume, i press pillows against my ears, but it's of no use. Tired i peek at the clock on my night table, it's few minutes over midnight. I should propably go watch some TV myself, no way im falling asleep with the obnoxious noise coming from upstairs. I strech my legs out, and get to a sitting posture on the side of my bed. Suddenly the noise stops, the silence i had waited for hours seems to have finally fallen. But something feels off, ususally it takes the whole night or cops to silence him. As im sitting there on the side of my bed i start to worry. It couldn't have been a blackout, my electic clock still lights the room with a red glow. I think about checking my neigbor, what if something had happened to him, the old man might have forgot his medication and fell weak. I sneak out of my bedroom to the kitchen when i hear a noise coming from my door. Slow knocking i look at my door across the hallway that connects the rooms in my apartment. What kind of a sane person knocks at my door at this time? I slowly approach the door, and by the time i get to it the knocking has faded out. I feel really uncomfortable, but i force myself to look throught the peephole to see if there is still someone. To my relief i see no one there. Confused and creeped out i put on coat and my slippers to proceed with my original plan. I open the door slowly. There is something on the floor behind my door, a box with my name on it. I bow down to pick it up, but foul reek of meat gets to my nose. Shocked i drop the box, shedding it open. I look down to the floor eyes filled with terror, fresh slices of meat scattered all over it. I rush to my bedroom and close the door, thinking to myself: this is the last time my neigbour prank calls salami pizza on me.

http://ratings.tanki...user/Svetall78/ I found this really odd :wacko:

So i saw this 1 newb raging at the text, i believe he said something like: bleep, tanki, 100k for a new nickname is bleep bleep bleep and you just want our bleep money, and i can't get my bleep money back. And the gentleman i am responded with something like: calm down, it's just a game. Followed by the obviously intellectual anserw that had practically no banworthy words, that quickly let me know how stupid i am. Not given up on hope yet i let him know, that the messages are not sent by moderators. An ½hour later i came back from a battle and saw the same guy raging about the same text. Tanki can be a great place occasionally :lol:

I don't have the balls to face my enemy with a weapon this inpractical... so i guess i'd just get the Landkreuzer ready, shoot a few projectiles from a distance hoping i hit something :unsure:

Over thousand hours... how does he even... Stupid amount of drugs used... and he still has a terrible score/time ratio.... what is this guy doing... d/l under 1 with the campyest weapon on the game.... Can someone tell me what is going on with that profile it's tripping me out

4th or 5th of June i recall

It was pretty obvious this would be a basic 25% sale, didn't put any grind in on stawp. Thank god for alts, i will use this sale for a kit, and i guess im happy for that :) Maybe i'll get enough for rail m3 and some drugs on TOs b-day... i miss the starseries we had last year, it brought some more exitment to the celebrtions. Hope we'll get some kind of contest going on, it always brings an unique feel, and gives you something to follow in the spirit of the current happening.

Ok, i get that shaft doesn't seem like it belongs here. Maps like lost teample or kolhoz could be more common, but they are not, that is the will of the players. It has alot to do with the lags on large maps, many don't have the computer to have fun on berlin, and even if more did, the laggers would still ruin it. What comes to the scope thingy... i mean it's not really "needed", but i guess it could be interesting, expesially with mouse contols. However, the shaft gameplay has been messed around too much anyways; the laser, the new more accurate mouse controls, rebalances on damage and impact force. I've already put too much time in learning the previous gameplays of shaft, just to toss a duck with them. But maybe they could try implimenting this on a way that doesn't completely put the old gameplay out of its misery.... i dunno, the concept of shaft is something im ok with as it is. :unsure: And this... shaft bug is the most annoying thing, i can't undestand how it still exists... i mean, can it be that hard to fix, or is there even any effort to fix it?

I wouldn't like to, but stinger isn't my strongpoint of experience...

It isn't that good. The equipment barely match any game well, the short range paint backfires on large maps, and the light hull on smaller ones. Only places i found the default combo usable were DMs. However the insane mobolity with a gun that can't lay powerful shots on the move was a douple edged sword. In one hand it helped you the gain the distance shaft needs for charged shots. On the other hand it was insanely unstable, and when you got the distance you might already be pretty much dead. As i had rustle and tundra i barely ever used mars with it. With such a decent long range paint it could work as a mobile supportive attacker or defender on maps like monte, kungur, lost temple or altra. However it didn't really amount to having a stable place on the field, and had to keep switching roles to get a decent score... It plays on a very thin rope in terms of winning over cituations, You have to be really good at prioritising your actions, as a failed charge makes you dr.dolittle for a while and never charging will lead to an uneffective gun with little to no use. In some cituations it is really hard to know how to react, you have to be really good at predicting people and knowing the surroundings to work optimally with shaft/hornet. Alltogether the kit was really messy, i bought it to support my viking m2, mammoth m2 and the paints... and it enabled me to play xp. The combo works in such a small variety of cituations you will find it very hard to impact the final score of the game. 1 thing i have to give to shaft is... well on dd and with a bunch of mines and repairs it's a completely different animal, if you get control of a good camping spot that enables you to cherrypick the enemy isidas and fatties you can turn games around from a fully supportive role. It expesially tops other shaft combos if you aren't a fan of wasting repairs, the hull gets you back to action seconds from respawning. Alltogether i would only recommend the kit for 3 kinds of people. 1. Pro sniper who already has heavy/medium hull and long range paints. Wants to buy shaft m3 asap, and lacks on a light hull/short range paint centaur works pretty nicely as a filler for this kind of players garage. 2. Someone who really wants xp gamaplay, and doesn't already have m2 hornet/xp paint combo. 3. Someone who wants to experience a really extrodianry combo in action, and possibly specialize in using it to the extent of buying a better paint, drugs and MUs. You should have previous shaft/mobile hull experience for this, or atleast over 100k experience with 1 of the 2. Othervice you will propably give up in mastering the combo.

Durian :wacko: Don't do it, think about your future and dreams :)

About this, well those are all some seriously powerful paths to go through m2 ranks with kits. If i was to say any others i'd say mosquito/northerner for long ranger, and the benefitial routes of skipping the heavy m2 kit and going for bulldozer instead and the path of getting a medium m2 kit and ant. Or maybe just use osaka, siberian or stinger to get to the ranks for the op m2 kits and then fo straight for full m3 kit. M2 ranks aren't really that hard to cope through with success, expesially if you get a kit or 2. I think the wisest approach is to allways rush for m4 asap and base expensive purhases mostly on their long jevity use.

True, thunder m3 eats atleast 10 Mu steps. But it's worthwhile i think dragon-judgement, kirby2008, U_will_be_destroyed and Fc_bayernmunchen are a solid enough proof of that. Thunder m2 will serve no purpose after a few ranks... The kits serve a similar purpose in a long run, buing fortress blocks out bulldozer. I wish i had gone for bulldozer while i had the chance, but i also thought the few ranks would matter. Now i don't use any part of the kit and i bought emerald anyway, since rustles wasn't specialised enough. True, i haven't plaid firewall alt in a while, but i'm buying the kit on the alt i currently focus on @0dysseus soon. I got a plan to b close range specialist on that account with ant, firewall jackhammer and freeze m3 propably during this year. I'm consciously talking about battles where enemies have many turrets and paints. I personally like to choose my combos while thinking about the tough cituations they can face. I personally think fire m2 isn a more needed gun in tough midrank battles, because all the twins m1s that are already doing the jobs of twins. I also saw alot of twins/titan and minotaur combos while i did pro-battles on midranks back in the day, usually there were 1 to 2 twins in 1 arena cp alone... fire m2 used to be very needed for the diversity... The combo also did the capping thing better in pro-battles... in pro battles it ususally comes down to powerful attack, defence and isida work. Midfielding(the thing minotaur does the best) isn't as often gamechanger in my perception(unless full midfield map: island or hill) You also don't get to live that long in many pro-battles, which worked for fire. "kit that everyone can get score and cri with it fast and easily at low to mid rank" isn't something i would pick my m2 kits by, about every m2 kit does that in my experience. What every kit doesn't do is win an equal, hard games, where "everyone has (some good) paints and everyone are skilled" In normal battles low to mid ranks i had no issue scoring about 500 to 1k points in any 15 min battle with firewall, and i was not a drugger. Allthough i do admit that twins could score better results, expesially with drugs, i stand behind my 1st post: "firewall unlocks a rank before, and is a bit cheaper. So if you can get it at it's unlocking rank you'll get a little more benefitial deal." And i think that 1 rank, holhoma, those 20k, the capability in hard battles and the ability to still win pretty much any normal game make up for the performance difference in basic battles. Btw: i hugely appreciate you staying ccc through this, i've had this kind of converation turn to flamewars too many times :)

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It's a long one, becouse i plan to quote it as this is a common topic i don't wish addressing with a new post every single time. Fortress isn't a waste compared to other m2 kits? Fortress has nothing on atlas, and you know that. 1 could point out that you can buy fortress 2 ranks earlyer, but in my eyes that gives it no extra points. A wise route of m2 purchases doesn't start with a fat hull. 1. because it's completely overkill, and the extra armor is barely of any use, you will barely get to low health anyways. 2. Medium hull allows you to work in all areas, so you can actually help your team by capping, and is still very hard to kill at lower ranks, using drugs almost unkillable. Medium kit is the best 1st m2 kit in allmost any cenario. 3. You are going to want to avoid 2 hulls of the same weight, medium kit and a fat kit is the best combo, since it allows you to help your team in pretty much every way. Why buy fortress and add some medium kit to that, when you can buy some medium kit and add atlas or bulldozer to that? Correct me if im wrong, but you seem to really like going completely overkill on ppl. I make this assumption from your screenshots, your d/ls, decent amount of drugs used and your exp/time ratio. Now i do agree, that when going overkill guns with no reload are the way to go. I discussed about this very topic on another thread few months back, and the discussion was based on this. The owner of the thread called twins out as the best gun in the game, regardless of rank. And, well the chart says it all, twins absolutely destroys other guns when it comes to concistant damage. But to call twins you have to actually see the use of concistant damage. It's helpful when you stay alive for long, and have alot of contact with enemies. However there are a couple things twins doesn't do, but fire does. 1. It's helpless against isidas in many ways, it can't damage isida through anyone, if it doesn't have a long faceoff, isida will barely suffer any damage, and the effort of twins can be easily outdone. It can't deal more damage, than an isida can handle; only targetting 1 person at the time will not overwhelm the isidas ability to keep a teams livelyhood up, and as long as it has lively team you are not surviving long enough to squeeze that concistant damage benefit that twins has... only cituations that give twins the upper hand on an isida are the ones where twins has faster hull. And the cituations where the faceoff is so long, that the isida runs out of ammo... and how often do you face standalone isidas in a skilled team? And if you do, the reason they are without support is propably because they want a respawn for new drugs or full clip, which makes you only serve them with your kill. 2. It doesn't enable you to damage large groups. Pretty selfexplanitory, twins is not the gun to lead attacs with, which makes for a poor attacker, if your enemy has an actual defence going on. If you can't cause mass damage to enemies defence as a lead attackes your attack is pretty much doomed. Either on a point or when going for the flag. And in many cases a good leader for an attack is a gamechanger. I do agree that a drugging twins against a nondrugging defence can lead, but we are talking about the effectiveness of turrets in general, that means we should count noobwrecking only as a part of the abilities of the turret. 3. It doesn't go well with light hulls. Duh, twins on a light hull is something a skilled player dispises. Twins needs long contacct with enemies, and a light hull can't handle that. This makes for another drawback in the attackin ability of twins. 4. Twins needs isidas or drugs. Simple enough, twins can't survive short standoffs on top, therefore it requires either a nooby opponent or isidas and drugs. Fire can work against skilled players even with short lifespan, the burn effect and massdamage will put in alot more damage, than a short span of twins balls. This makes firebird able to destroy even strong enemy lines without drugging or a isida focusing on him. 5. It doesn't return flags as ez. You wanna return a flag from enemy base from that nasty twins/mammoth. Well you can't twins can't handle an equal twins, or any strong defender on that matter. It NEEDS contact, however a defender is prepared, and has a infinite ammo turret too, and a fat hull added to that, propbly isida and mines. With fire you could hit n' run, or atleast harm him badly. With twins you are bound to lose to him, you won't get long enough time, and he won't suffer any damage after he has rekt you. I think i made my point clear, Firebird has it's place, it's not the godmode that beats a dead horse. It's a gun for solving battles with equal opponents, and as your screenies prove it's not completely helpless on kicking noobies around either. I stated: "firebird and twins can easily gain similar results," And by that i mean both of these turrets can be used to win battles, they can be used to own noobs, they can be used to fight tough battles. I do agree, that twins performs better in some areas, but i think i proved that firebird can also outshine twins in some others. "when u need to change game u need to drug" sadly enough, you can't always do that. Maybe you should try changing a game by changing tactics, combos or the overall strategy if your team has 1 going on. I can very much say it works and grows ones capabilities as a player. "Twins m2 is better than fire m2 in both drug and non-drug games." Is a VERY ignorant statement. I'll give you the simplest of examples: your team has full twins, what do you do? Well you propably shouldn't add another twins in there, paints, and isidas will make you lose that game. Now a little more complicated: your team can't defeat the enemies dominance, on point there is a fat twins/titan sitting with isidas, and you can't seem to kill it.(very often the case) Well adding another twins won't serve you that well, the isidas will keep him alive, and he will keep the isidas alive. Both cenarios can be asily solved by a firebird, and i can list out alot more, but i hope i don't have to. I'm not making this any longer, if you didn't get it from that, i can't make you get it. :) Well there is a chance that you are a player of all sorts of battles, who just happens to perform better with twins, maybe me telling you about the different uses of different guns missed the mark. If that is the case i congratulate you, you have found your gun... this however doesn't mean others will get the same results.

Sorry, i've plaid both of these kits too, i can give to you that minotaur is a whole lot easyer to use, and that m2 viking is a little stronger than m2 hunter. That's all, firebird and twins can easily gain similar results, and i have about 2 times more experience with twins so there is no question about me just being a fire user. I agree with you on atlas, fortress is a total waste of money as there is this thing called bulldozer... and the other thing called m2 titan. It's pretty hard to make a good plan of purchases that includes fortress. I do appreciate you trying to correct something that you felt was off, but when it comes to these kits im pretty sure i know what im talking about... If you feel like i can't be correct about this you are welcome to bring some points, but im not going with blind trust, when i have personal experience about the matter :)

That is a tough one. All i can say is, both are ridiculously op for their respective unlocking ranks. However firewall unlocks a rank before, and is a bit cheaper. So if you can get it at it's unlocking rank you'll get a little more benefitial deal. If it's gonna take you to rhino ranks to gather enough crystals for a purchase i'd go for rhino. Twins m2 and viking m2 are almost m3 guality stuff, and if you get roger or some other nice paint with it, well you have 1 of the strongest m2 combos possible in your hands.