Yip typical devs, im off, this is just crap, and the devs doing what they think is best for all concerned.

Typical of the devs, if there is nothing wrong they make changes. Dont no why they just couldn't leave us the choice for the dark theme. These bright screens are very off putting, i've already got rid of all the brightness while playing the game, it's so in your face and very ott. They call it modern, i call it useless and not needed.

Well this is pants, time to exit.

how come i cant change the forum to dark anymore??

I agree, but with vulcan you are upgrading for a lot of cry with no discernable gain. I still maintain that 15/20 to 20/20 is a waste of cry.

Yes, because they do nothing about the real OP game changers. The devs nerf a turret, in this case vulcan, why? Because it's value as a money maker was all but spent (literally.) They bring in OP updates to satisfy their TO bank balance, they do it knowing the P2W chavs will lap it up. Like i said the devs are hypocrites, very greedy ones at that. They have steadily, with ever increasing pace introduced OP updates to line their pockets, at the expense of balance, and a fighting chance in battle for most players. I personally never really struggle in the majority of battles i enter, and if needed can spend as much as i want to enhance my garage. I don't spend on any account regarding turrets, hulls, modules, i wait till the next rank and obtain the upgraded version, if i am able to max it out prior to the next rank. I would imagine at some point that every player has spent even a little cash on TO, does not seem right that the devs tip the balance firmly in favour of those who are hardcore p2w. Back in the day i was just as hardcore as most, but i honestly want to see a BALANCED game for the MAJORITY of players, this i believe should be a priority with the devs, instead of them favouring the minority with massive OP updates that only they can afford. Don't know if i mentioned the FLYING HACK.............get rid.

The nerf to the FLYING HACK was a joke.

Nerfed it to 44%. Took them forever to nerf hornet ( which was not a nerf ) The more the devs mess things up, then the more you have to do when it concerns your own account. I do whatever it takes, and that continues also while doing missions. Look what they have done to defender drone, yet flying hack is still a OP game changer in CTF, RUGBY, and any gold events. The latter i could care less about, but it's the principal behind it. The devs are hypocrites, greedy ones at that.

True enough, but the difference between 15/20 for vulcan is minute. And if the devs had not messed with vulcan, then i would of maxed it out on my other accounts, but they did and so i did not.

You will get 1 extra damage at step 15. I'm saying as a vulcan user of quite some time now, that the extras you get after 15 are just not worth the cry. Every account i have including 1 other legend account do not go past step 15. I have 2 commander accounts, both are at 15 and will never ever go any further. They never get used now because of the outrageous xp/cry ratio. The devs want to nerf certain things in TO and leave other way more OP stuff untouched, then i will do what i think is best for my account, and imo going past 15 on a MK7 is insane and a waste of cry.

Agreed, if you have a lot of spare cry and it's a decent sale, and you have nothing else whatsoever in your garage that needs upgrading (drones aside) then go for it, other than that it is a massive waste of cry imo.

LOL i don't care much for stats, they bore me. But what i do take notice of (in a massive way) is how every hull and turret actually perform in battle. That is the real and ONLY way to determine what any combo is like. Although of course the actual player also determines how a particular combo will fare, ultimately i say what i see with my own ? And congo, please no more stats lessons, it hurts my head.

Reason not to take it past 15. With no speed ups well over 160.000 cry, with speed ups just shy of 500.000 cry. And all your numbers from 1-7 make no difference whatsoever in real battle terms. They are at best miniscule changes in the overall effectiveness of vulcan. NO.5 does not change at all from 15/20 to 20/20 I had it maxed out on my main well before the devs got their grubby paws on it and nerfed it.

Well it still does not upgrade you in any real sense. conclusion, it's a pure waste of cry if you upgrade past 15 on a MK7. Sorry congo but your explanation might be correct, but in terms of making a difference to vulcan's damage output, the devs have conned the players yet again on top of the unnecessary nerf they applied to this turret.

Just been on the russian forum, same old complaints, they deff do not like the flying hack. And here is a bit of sound advice for those who might need it, DO NOT take your vulcan past step 15 in the upgrades. (MK7) You only get 1 extra damage and it will cost you a lot of cry. (a substantial amount) When they nerfed vulcan they didn't bother to also nerf the amount of steps it takes to fully upgrade it, usual devious devs doing what they do best.

And before any of that, make all flying hacks regardless of rank M0, and yeah i'm also being very serious.

Good idea. Also when you ignore someone it should actually ignore everything about that player, posts,reactions,everything. Should also be able to ignore mods if you want, because some of them are just plain dumb, and that's me being particularly nice in my assessment of those mods.

LOL, talk about the UNDERSTATEMENT of the year.

@Maf you just had to throw a ice cold bucket of water on a great topic......shame on you @Maf

No it's not.

Nope, just ban them, period.

LOL where do i begin. Ok i will only say one thing, as i have said everything that can be said about everything that is bad about TO. GET RID OF THE FLYING HACK. Along with and in no particular order: AP EMP Useless HTML5 GARAGE XP/CRY ratio MM.........disaster Rank spreads.......complete disaster. Scamboxes. The name says it all. Ultras..........anything but ultra. And did i mention the flying hack, THE most OP update ever in TO. Apart from those few seriously flawed things, everything is peachy. On a side note, i really hope this topic gets hundreds of replies and paves the way for serious positive changes in TO.?

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I agree with @RIDDLER_8 bring out a animated green (riddler) paint, then we can form a clan with riddler and kick in battle.

Because most players don't like them, they are OP legal hacks, hope that clears up the reason why.