Let's Discuss Shaft!

[Tidebreaker 1,669]

Not just with RFM? Ugh... devs need to patch this.

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

Alright..... so how would YOU deal with an enemy who is equipped module against your turret?

 

A: Don't have protection module to counter-punish? Deal with it.

 

B: Grab another turret and hope no enemy tank will have protection...

 

C: Teach him/her a lesson by making his/her underpowered too! By using protection module against him/her! What I mean is if an enemy Thunder uses Orka, slap Grizzly on your tank to teach him/her a lesson!

 

D: Your own way.....

Edited March 10, 2019 by FrozenRailgun

[Truthteller 4,204]

 

For me it does not make much of a difference if they have modules or not, at high ranks already it is rare and even if they do have 50% protection I still do 1500 damage so that's half their health  :P

Sometimes it's a shaft+mammoth with shaft protection so those are harder but they usually have the heavy alteration which takes forever to charge

The best counter to a shaft is using shaft too  :ph34r:

[TTpocmo_MblLLlKa 20]

Anyone else have this bug when sniping with RFM on?

 

About 5% of the time, a fully charged sniping shot will deal the regular arcade damage instead of the one-shot kill for mediums and lights. Incredibly frustrating to deal with.

Everyone has this problem. Error in the code. This does not happen randomly. If you go into the sniper mode and immediately shoot with minimal damage, then the second shot in the sniper mode will make arcade damage. No difference how long it takes to be in sniper mode a second time.

[Truthteller 4,204]

Everyone has this problem. Error in the code. This does not happen randomly. If you go into the sniper mode and immediately shoot with minimal damage, then the second shot in the sniper mode will make arcade damage. No difference how long it takes to be in sniper mode a second time.

No it is random it can even happen to a full charged shot  :rolleyes:

[TTpocmo_MblLLlKa 20]

No it is random it can even happen to a full charged shot  :rolleyes:

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Everyone has this problem. Error in the code. This does not happen randomly. If you go into the sniper mode and immediately shoot with minimal damage, then the second shot in the sniper mode will make arcade damage. No difference how long it takes to be in sniper mode a second time.

I'll test this out. Also, you seem to be an expert in the inner mechanics of Shaft. 

 

Tell me, how do you get the maximum arcade damage? I know that the maximum arcade damage is the same amount as the minimum sniper damage. Is it possible to obtain the maximum arcade damage without having all of your energy deducted?

[Tidebreaker 1,669]

I'll test this out. Also, you seem to be an expert in the inner mechanics of Shaft. 

 

Tell me, how do you get the maximum arcade damage? I know that the maximum arcade damage is the same amount as the minimum sniper damage. Is it possible to obtain the maximum arcade damage without having all of your energy deducted?

It's possible to do, but quite tricky.

 

If you want to make it easier, Light Capacitors is the way to go. Since it's suited for quickscoping, this means that has a faster scope in time, and hence quicker to get the minimum sniper damage. At the same time you have to make sure that you time it right or you will lose your charge.

 

Short-band emitters can help as well, since they increase the arcade and the minimum sniper damage. However, I prefer Light Capacitors.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Everyone has this problem. Error in the code. This does not happen randomly. If you go into the sniper mode and immediately shoot with minimal damage, then the second shot in the sniper mode will make arcade damage. No difference how long it takes to be in sniper mode a second time.

Yup, it seems like that's the case. If so, they should really fix this because many times, I would have to exit sniping mode immediately as I go into it because I could predict that my teammate would push me hard or my enemy would be out-of-sight for a while. It's not good knowing that your next shot WILL deal arcade damage no matter the charge. This would have been extremely tolerable if your energy wasn't depleted no matter the charge of your sniping mode shot. 

 

 

It's possible to do, but quite tricky.

 

If you want to make it easier, Light Capacitors is the way to go. Since it's suited for quickscoping, this means that has a faster scope in time, and hence quicker to get the minimum sniper damage. At the same time you have to make sure that you time it right or you will lose your charge.

 

Short-band emitters can help as well, since they increase the arcade and the minimum sniper damage. However, I prefer Light Capacitors.

Heh, I think I'll stick to tapping spacebar.  :lol:

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Bought Heavy Capacitors yesterday. I was expecting to be disappointed just like I was with my last 4 alteration purchases but that wasn't the case this time. It feels so good to know that I could finally one-shot Vikings. 

 

Sometimes, the charge up time doesn't seem to affect me, other times, it feels like it's taking FOREVERRRRRR. The damage, at least to my M2 Shaft, is definitely worth it. Had a Juggernaut battle where I entered close to halfway but I was able to get 16 kills and no deaths. Only one player tried to kill me from behind but he got killed by the mines I left behind me.  :P

 

[Truthteller 4,204]

I guess it's useful for those who can't 1 shot vikings, but there's no point already being able to 1 shot a viking and waiting longer.

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

Bought Heavy Capacitors yesterday. I was expecting to be disappointed just like I was with my last 4 alteration purchases but that wasn't the case this time. It feels so good to know that I could finally one-shot Vikings. 

 

Sometimes, the charge up time doesn't seem to affect me, other times, it feels like it's taking FOREVERRRRRR. The damage, at least to my M2 Shaft, is definitely worth it. Had a Juggernaut battle where I entered close to halfway but I was able to get 16 kills and no deaths. Only one player tried to kill me from behind but he got killed by the mines I left behind me.  :P

 

Tested Heavy Capacitor in Test Server.... only good if target is far away. Close range.... get roasted/froze by circle-strafers. But.... It takes 8 seconds to charge up that 3,900 damage!

 

Also tried Light Capacitor too on Test Server. Good for dealing strafers but not so good for far-range combat. As turret rotates too fast and might fire ‘n miss the target.

 

Oooh.... anyone want to try “Pistol Whipper” if released to the game? It’s an idea alternation I made and Truthteller gives a like.

I guess it's useful for those who can't 1 shot vikings, but there's no point already being able to 1 shot a viking and waiting longer.

Fire arcade shot 1st.... and then enter sniper shot will be helpful.

 

That can hide your laser and.:... deal with Repair Kits.

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

For me it does not make much of a difference if they have modules or not, at high ranks already it is rare and even if they do have 50% protection I still do 1500 damage so that's half their health  :P

Sometimes it's a shaft+mammoth with shaft protection so those are harder but they usually have the heavy alteration which takes FOREVER to charge

The best counter to a shaft is using shaft too  :ph34r:

So you do not mind when an enemy tank uses Eagle? Or you get used to it.

[Truthteller 4,204]

So you do not mind when an enemy tank uses Eagle? Or you get used to it.

I don't mind

[Initiate 1,306]

In my opinion, Shaft is still a great weapon, and it is still OP sometimes. Just try to play a Silence game with a drugging Shaft M2 ! Or not drugging, it can still one-shoot your hornet.

 

It is OP if you get it M2 at major rank, because at this rank, most of the players play with hornet, and you one shoot them at half way through the bar.

People think it has been nerfed too much, because before rebalance it used to one shoot every hulls, except mammy M3 (M2 was one shooted) and THAT was an OP shaft. Now, to use it with success, you need more skills, than everyone was used to.

 

To finish, I think this gun is really good and I'll buy it asap.

I'm about to get shaft M3 without spending any money! At WO5 that is super OP :)

[Desty 275]

I don't mind

Same here.

 

Btw, congratz for rank up.

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

I'm about to get shaft M3 without spending any money! At WO5 that is super OP :)

I have not micro upgrade ANYTHING since WO3. Nothing. Except in test server. I only micro-upgraded my Hornet-Shaft and Falcon S-B (that was Eagle's old name) to M2. You should have waited until Lieutenant General to get Shaft M3.....

 

I don't mind

Well I do. But hey, once Hornet's Overdrive comes out..... ho ho ho! It's showtime! Edited March 13, 2019 by FrozenRailgun

[Initiate 1,306]

I have not micro upgrade ANYTHING since WO3. Nothing. Except in test server. I only micro-upgraded my Hornet-Shaft and Falcon S-B (that was Eagle's old name) to M2. You should have waited until Lieutenant General to get Shaft M3.....

 

Well I do. But hey, once Hornet's Overdrive comes out..... ho ho ho! It's showtime!

Is that a good thing?

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

Is that a good thing?

What?

[Initiate 1,306]

What?

Not having MUed

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

I'm about to get shaft M3 without spending any money! At WO5 that is super OP :)

Do you mean M2? M1 10/10 is M2, not M3. Unless you are talking about equipping the Heavy Capacitors alteration as well?

 

 

I have not micro upgrade ANYTHING since WO3. Nothing. Except in test server. I only micro-upgraded my Hornet-Shaft and Falcon S-B (that was Eagle's old name) to M2. You should have waited until Lieutenant General to get Shaft M3.....

 

Well I do. But hey, once Hornet's Overdrive comes out..... ho ho ho! It's showtime!

I've invested in some Shaft protection. It's at 17% right now. 

 

I don't mind

I mind, only when I'm not using Heavy Capacitors. I remember entering a MM battle where the rank bracket was 2nd Lieutenant - Colonel and I saw 4 players on the enemy team with at least 28% Shaft protection. One of them had 43%. I left immediately. 

 

That's the only hypocritical thing about me that I can admit. I know that some turrets are balanced because there are barely any protections against it. If I see more than 3 players with above 25% Shaft protection in the lower ranks, I'm leaving. With the number of supplies being handed out every day, protection like that really hampers my efficiency in the team.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Some more Shaft games in Juggernaut. The ones that have the word "Alone" in the name of the screenshot are the ones where I got the kills solely with Shaft and not with the Juggernaut. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This one was just me trying to kill the Juggernaut because he was dominating. One shotting any unprotected hull with the Terminator's Railgun: 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 13, 2019 by TheCongoSpider

[Initiate 1,306]

Do you mean M2? M1 10/10 is M2, not M3. Unless you are talking about equipping the Heavy Capacitors alteration as well?

 

No, I meant M3. I can count to 10, obviously you can't though: 1, 3, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Just kidding,

Wow, I said that wrong. I meant I don't spend any money. A friend of mine is buying Chiropractor kit for me, so I get it for free :) I now have one P2W account...

[Tidebreaker 1,669]

I don't mind

Yeah, neither do I. Because either they're stupid enough to go out without Double Armor, or I kill them anyway with my 10/20 Booster drone.

Congratulations on your rankup! You did it!

 

I'm about to get shaft M3 without spending any money! At WO5 that is super OP :)

NICE!  ;)

 

 

I have not micro upgrade ANYTHING since WO3. Nothing. Except in test server. I only micro-upgraded my Hornet-Shaft and Falcon S-B (that was Eagle's old name) to M2. You should have waited until Lieutenant General to get Shaft M3.....

 

Well I do. But hey, once Hornet's Overdrive comes out..... ho ho ho! It's showtime!

What's the point of waiting if you can get it now?

And Hornet's overdrive is going to be really good for Shaft, although it comes a close second behind Hunter

(come on, let's face it, Viking's is going to get nerfed)

 

Do you mean M2? M1 10/10 is M2, not M3. Unless you are talking about equipping the Heavy Capacitors alteration as well?

 

 

I've invested in some Shaft protection. It's at 17% right now. 

 

I mind, only when I'm not using Heavy Capacitors. I remember entering a MM battle where the rank bracket was 2nd Lieutenant - Colonel and I saw 4 players on the enemy team with at least 28% Shaft protection. One of them had 43%. I left immediately. 

 

That's the only hypocritical thing about me that I can admit. I know that some turrets are balanced because there are barely any protections against it. If I see more than 3 players with above 25% Shaft protection in the lower ranks, I'm leaving. With the number of supplies being handed out every day, protection like that really hampers my efficiency in the team.

OK, I get that. Sometimes you just can't compete. Eagle is making a return nowadays.

Or just get an M2 Shaft kit at WO5 (hint: Chiropractor) and get the Eagle M2 module for free.

 

Some more Shaft games in Juggernaut. The ones that have the word "Alone" in the name of the screenshot are the ones where I got the kills solely with Shaft and not with the Juggernaut. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This one was just me trying to kill the Juggernaut because he was dominating. One shotting any unprotected hull with the Terminator's Railgun: 

 

 

 

 

I just hope you didn't have to camp to do this...

 

No, I meant M3. I can count to 10, obviously you can't though: 1, 3, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Just kidding,

Wow, I said that wrong. I meant I don't spend any money. A friend of mine is buying Chiropractor kit for me, so I get it for free :) I now have one P2W account...

Hmm.. You seem like a good investment. Whoever that friend is, I think he's making a good choice to letting you get stronger  ;)

[Initiate 1,306]

Yeah, neither do I. Because either they're stupid enough to go out without Double Armor, or I kill them anyway with my 10/20 Booster drone.

Congratulations on your rankup! You did it!

 

NICE!  ;)

 

 

What's the point of waiting if you can get it now?

And Hornet's overdrive is going to be really good for Shaft, although it comes a close second behind Hunter

(come on, let's face it, Viking's is going to get nerfed)

 

OK, I get that. Sometimes you just can't compete. Eagle is making a return nowadays.

Or just get an M2 Shaft kit at WO5 (hint: Chiropractor) and get the Eagle M2 module for free.

 

I just hope you didn't have to camp to do this...

 

Hmm.. You seem like a good investment. Whoever that friend is, I think he's making a good choice to letting you get stronger  ;)

Wow, are you stalking me? :)

Did you get my PM? Customer Support will email  back within 15 hours from now.

At WO5? You'd have to be a buyer, and I am firmly against anyone that buys. May as well trick their friends into buying stuff  :rolleyes:

 

Are you calling me an investment? Maybe you mean I'm a good person to invest in? Definitely a good choice, possibly the second best choice one could make :)