Let's Discuss Mammoth!

[123tim456back 195]

9 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Well... we were discussing "small" maps like sandbox.  Spawn with Trooper drone (or similar drone) and hit OD at top of ramp. Can close VERY fast - any hull not running at that point could easily be toast.  Seen it done lots on maps like that.

You assume no one in the dome has their OD.  

You have not addressed my point of corpses blocking its way.  

You have not addressed my point of hornet and hunter doing it’s job, but better.

We are still discussing short maps, so even if your argument is triumphant, mammoth is still useless on larger maps.  

[wolverine848 13,097]

5 minutes ago, 123tim456back said:

You assume no one in the dome has their OD.  

You have not addressed my point of corpses blocking its way.  

You have not addressed my point of hornet and hunter doing it’s job, but better.

We are still discussing short maps, so even if your argument is triumphant, mammoth is still useless on larger maps.  

Well if you're gonna balance odds to one side... like multiple tanks in dome with OD vs 1 mammoth...

I never posted about mammoth on big maps.

[123tim456back 195]

2 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Well if you're gonna balance odds to one side... like multiple tanks in dome with OD vs 1 mammoth...

Fair enough, my bad.

3 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

I never posted about mammoth on big maps.

Due to your previous points, I assumed you believed mammoth was not UP.  

If that is the case though, you need to address my aforementioned points ._.

[123tim456back 195]

1 hour ago, At_Shin said:

i think they should give these boosts to mammoth overdrive-

1) 60-70% protection against all damage for 7 seconds,

note- this defense from the OD cannot add to the defense provided by DA, titan dome, Defender drone, protection modules.

2) 100 Health Points per second for 7 seconds

3) if they implement these changes they should NOT change the speed boost mammoth gets and also, they should NOT take away the instant healing which occurs as soon as shift button is pressed by the player.

4) this way, a mammoth cannot have any more advantage over meteorite golds than other hulls, but still prove to be more usable than it's current version.

Interesting ideas, and it could work, although it might be too similar to the old titan’s OD.  Just a selfish version.

[Potdindy 866]

You've got to agree tho, that there is something amazing about mammothing a charging tank. I always feel like a linebacker making an open field tackle....also is good to punish players who stop playing the game objective to hunt you down

[Lifver 1]

They really killed its overdrive... replacing the invincibility effect with something a simple repair kit can do really brought it down. It's kinda like changing Titan's overdrive to give all tanks shielded by the dome a simple double armor, or replacing Viking's rapid-fire ability with a simple double damage.

Edited April 22, 2020 by Lifver
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[E_polypterus 2,374]

On 4/23/2020 at 3:53 AM, Lifver said:

They really killed its overdrive... replacing the invincibility effect with something a simple repair kit can do really brought it down. It's kinda like changing Titan's overdrive to give all tanks shielded by the dome a simple double armor, or replacing Viking's rapid-fire ability with a simple double damage.

Yes mammoth od would do better with a slight buff. Maybe not invincibility but like double health or something.

[coconuttree 519]

4 minutes ago, E_polypterus said:

Yes mammoth od would do better with a slight buff. Maybe not invincibility but like double health or something.

Immunity from burn effect and freeze effect too

[E_polypterus 2,374]

Just now, coconuttree said:

Immunity from burn effect and freeze effect too

Yes that’d be a good addition as well.

[fire199 267]

Guys instead to trying to nerf hornets OD other than spawn protection lets all ask them buff  other overdrives, i dont like it when things are nerfed it just makes game play slow and boring 

so yea i like your ideas with mammoth 

some quick not definite ideas

yall can add your own is

Titan - dome healing the player but not allies 

Wasp - bomb being deployed in 2.5  seconds  

Hornet -  remove Spawn Protection

Mammoth - the ideas some of yall have posted

Hunter- Not sure 

Dictator and Viking seem fine but if not add you own  

 

Mammoth, and Titan are the worst OD right now and then wasp/hunter so they are the main one who need a minor buff 

 

Status effects make mammoth wasp and even hunter OD kinda avoidable titan to a extent too. Hornet and viking is the only one you cant do much about and dictator dosnt really mean much with status effects

 

 

Edited June 27, 2020 by fire199

[E_polypterus 2,374]

9 minutes ago, fire199 said:

Guys instead to trying to nerf hornets OD other than spawn protection lets all ask them buff  other overdrives, i dont like it when things are nerfed it just makes game play slow and boring 

so yea i like your ideas with mammoth 

some quick not definite ideas

yall can add your own is

Titan - dome healing the player but not allies 

Wasp - bomb being deployed in 2.5  seconds  

Hornet -  remove Spawn Protection

Mammoth - the ideas some of yall have posted

Hunter- Not sure 

Dictator and Viking seem fine but if not add you own  

 

Mammoth, and Titan are the worst OD right now and then wasp/hunter so they are the main one who need a minor buff 

 

Status effects make mammoth wasp and even hunter OD kinda avoidable titan to a extent too. Hornet and viking is the only one you cant do much about and dictator dosnt really mean much with status effects

 

 

Good idea

[Cleric 1,385]

Mammoth, a hull which is being overshadowed by Titan in every single aspect since they decided to make Mammoth's health same as that of Titan.

[BacardyXX 17]

mammoth is totally trash in MM battles..

[Viking4s 10,791]

I have seen rampaging Mammoth chasing scarred mighty Juggernaut 

Edited October 13, 2020 by Viking4s

[E_polypterus 2,374]

30 minutes ago, Viking4s said:

I have seen rampaging Mammoth chasing scarred mighty Juggernaut 

But dying just after that. No immunity: (((((

[Viking4s 10,791]

9 minutes ago, E_polypterus said:

But dying just after that. No immunity: (((((

He killed it, so that's one point for his team one point closer to victory. He did not die in vain.

[alkyng 3,080]

The mammoth who killed the juggernaut really deserve more than point

 

 

[Tokamak 1,021]

On 10/13/2020 at 1:18 PM, At_Shin said:

oh please!  A JGR who got killed by mammoth deserves to be killed.  This occurrence is very rare. Mammoth is only good for killing incoming enemies at melee range. It ends up extinct every other time. 

Man of little faith, small maps (like Bridges) are perfect for this, I would not try it on Yorkshire.

[Akame 4,578]

Tbh, Mammoth is more of a self orientated hull. Whilst the other two can in some form benefit their teammates.

Mammoth OD can be used to remove status inflictions like EMP/AP, or if activated the instant you see a hunter OD activation, you can obliterate them before they get your team.

It is a bit more situational, hard to use against hopper unless you have stun immunity or have sat on a capture point and pressed OD before he jumped.

The overall effectiveness depends on when it is used. Usually good enough to also remove a few tanks from a Titan Dome.

[Spy 14,687]

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[enri_chill 135]

Just started playing with the mammoth after learning how to play with the wasp. It is soooo slow:) Cracking me up. I feel  like a sitting duck in battles. Any tips for someone who got used to darting in and out of obstacles while shooting. Truly a completely different game with the mammoth.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

39 minutes ago, enri_chill said:

Just started playing with the mammoth after learning how to play with the wasp. It is soooo slow:) Cracking me up. I feel  like a sitting duck in battles. Any tips for someone who got used to darting in and out of obstacles while shooting. Truly a completely different game with the mammoth.

Fortunately for you, all heavy hulls now have the same speed as Mammoth. 

 

Some people don't like slow gameplay. I personally don't like get one-shotted by breeze so light hulls aren't for me. If you're into support fire, then heavy hulls are good to use. 

[enri_chill 135]

1 hour ago, At_Shin said:

Oh! I have some cool tips for using mammoth. You should try it out with trickster drone. The speed is truly amazing and overdrive buffs up this speed even further. Also, you should consider buying the current battle pass for Mammoth - Jammer Immunity augment. This augment will allow you to activate your overdrive at the opportune moments and provide you with 7 seconds of universal-status effect immunity; combine this with buffed up speed from its overdrive and trickster drone's speed buff and you are almost as fast as a light hull sans SB.

I got this augment yesterday and found it to be very helpful. 

You could also camp with the hull. Use saboteur drone with a long ranged turret and farm some kills. When low on hp, simply use the overdrive as a repair kit - it is not always the worst tactic.

Any idea when the next sale is going on? I haven't spent much on drones. Did brutus to 20 a year ago. At last sale finally got Defender to 20. Was working on Blaster...got it to 11. Never imagined I'd be on heavy hulls. But thought it would be a good change of pace. 

[NikmanGT 4,362]

25 minutes ago, enri_chill said:

Any idea when the next sale is going on? I haven't spent much on drones. Did brutus to 20 a year ago. At last sale finally got Defender to 20. Was working on Blaster...got it to 11. Never imagined I'd be on heavy hulls. But thought it would be a good change of pace. 

I think the next upcoming sale can be either be one of the weekend (ULTRAS) which could have normal sales or the upcoming good sales of Black Friday(it could be a whopping 50%) or either the Halloween sales, but I suggest waiting for official release.

[NikmanGT 4,362]

I still think mammoth's OD range is quite outwards from its radius. You can't dodge on close range, meaning when if you're even a bit close, the OD would strike your tank in no time. The concept of the hull becoming invincible and taking out any tank IT TOUCHES  isn't quite applicable. That is a disadvantage I face trying to dodge the mammoth OD in close range.