The 100 Shafts

[asifmak 467]

ok since you are such a pro lets battle with M0 rail/hornet with one of your alts. Lol seriously? Get your facts right bro... M3 rail can 1 shot a M3 hornet without rail protection... If so why not remove railgun or wasp from light format? Shaft is not allowed because it does NOT take 1/100 th of skills needed to use a railgun. Add me up! Bad we will battle tomorrow at this time.

1. invalid comment

2. shows lack of experience.

3. don't even think what he/she is going to say.

4. if u hav higher account do let me know i will show u how a shaft user rolls in bigger maps

[deadmanrising 715]

" Literally 75% of the players are using shaft and it just really ticks me off"

 

Since when?

 

"Not that the fact that they're using the shaft, its the fact that SO MANY players are using shaft. When I think of this situation, that question in the back of my mind is always lingering; "

 

As mentioned by many players, shaft is very rare at higher ranks and is not very useful at deathmatch and control points. Therefore it would really tick shaft users off if they underpowered it, it already has so much difficulty to use it, and if you don't like it buy protection or get a bigger tank -_-.

[kayitsiz 621]

 

" Literally 75% of the players are using shaft and it just really ticks me off"

 

Since when?

 

"Not that the fact that they're using the shaft, its the fact that SO MANY players are using shaft. When I think of this situation, that question in the back of my mind is always lingering; "

 

As mentioned by many players, shaft is very rare at higher ranks and is not very useful at deathmatch and control points. Therefore it would really tick shaft users off if they underpowered it, it already has so much difficulty to use it, and if you don't like it buy protection or get a bigger tank -_-.

 

Man, in game ,i most time do these 2 things:

 

1. Using shaft

2.Playing most time DM, i f i can't find suitable match, search CP matches :D

 

Maybe im rarely player but sometimes shaft is really hard gun in DM.

 

 

 

 

 

and if you don't like it buy protection or get a bigger tank  -_-.

 

Really some tanks can live after 2 shaft hit  <_< what is "too big problem"?

[M1-A2 840]

Shafts can play in DM's I personally would recommend having a friend in the battle to watch your back. That's the main way I survive DM's with shaft. I'm not saying that you can't DM without a friend I'm just pointing out what I do.

[Athena369 265]

1. invalid comment

2. shows lack of experience.

3. don't even think what he/she is going to say.

4. if u hav higher account do let me know i will show u how a shaft user rolls in bigger maps

edited. I meant wasp not hornet. If you were reading follow ups of my comment you would have understood i was mentioning a wasp.lol what exactly did you mean from "invalid comment" anyway?

[zainslimshady 474]

Frankly speaking. Shafts are used much the battles I play in. I remember before rebalance when we used to play at highways there used to be a lot of shafts. But after the update shaft isn't what it used to be. I mued my M3 shaft and it is still hard to get a single kill in large maps because most of the players are using paints which give them protection against railgun,thunder and shaft.

 

The developers needs to think about this weapon. Because I started as a shaft player and now I rarely use my shaft.

 

Edit- first line. Shafts aren't used much in the battles I play.

 

I cant edit properly because I am online via phone -,-'

[Athena369 265]

Wrong again. As I keep saying I've never used another weapon besides shaft. I started alt accounts to test new weapons. I have no problem with using my eyes to target. Also, I no scope a lot with my shaft so I get better aiming there. If you like I can fight you using one of my alts. I guarantee you I will win. You will also find that I am very capable of moving my hull and aiming while moving.

Shaft is not allowed in Starladder because it's too powerful. It's too easy to destroy hornets, which are the primary hull in the tournament.

He was so sure that he could win with his shaft skills..... Unfortunately I made the point earlier that shaft users become noobs over time... Another proof for it. ( He was playing with his ALT account )

[Thekillerpenguin 1,731]

I've used Shaft for a long time, and I don't think my skills are getting any worse because of it. I diversify my turret use, so perhaps that has something to do with it (Smoky, Thunder, and Railgun are mainstays of my arsenal now).

[Athena369 265]

I've used Shaft for a long time, and I don't think my skills are getting any worse because of it. I diversify my turret use, so perhaps that has something to do with it (Smoky, Thunder, and Railgun are mainstays of my arsenal now).

yeah that's the reason. What i meant was intense usage of shaft.

[M1-A2 840]

Ouch that hurts a lot.

Great battle Athena! Seriously though, in my defense i hardly use rail. Yes this battle does prove that i suck at Rail. Biiiig shocker.

However, one must remember that just because somebody uses a certain weapon doesn't make them unskilled. Rail is not for everybody, and it certainly isn't for me.

Some people prefer isida over everything else. If you versed them in a match like this one im pretty sure they would lose too. Why?

1) you are good with rail. I`m not afraid to admit that one.

2) They are used to one specific game style. As you said, it takes some time to master the charge up of rail. If someone hardly uses rail, I would expect them to lose.

I use thunder on one of my other accounts, and I'm pretty good with it. That doesn't mean that I'm a noob just because i use shaft. Each weapon requires a different skill set. Not everybody has Railgun skills. My skill sets lie in patience for shaft. However, i can also use rico thunder fire and twins quite well. Just because someone uses shaft it does not make them noobs. Some people lack the skills used in railgun. They might be good at usng another weapon.

Fact of life, If you aren't used to something, somebody is going to beat you with it.

 

Once again, congrats on the win. Maybe having a match with all of the different guns would be a better way to challenge someone. Instead of fighting someone with a weapon that you have an advantage in. ;)

 

One other thing. I am also what some people call a mobile shafter. What does this mean? It means that i can go out and use shaft in arcade mode (no scope) or in other words use shaft like a smoky.

[Athena369 265]

Well i knew you were going come up with some excuse like this. It is why i chose the rail gun in the first place. Even i don't use rail most of the time. I mostly use Rico and thunder. I hope that with your rank that you are thorough with the fact that a player who is skilled with railgun can use most of the other turrets even better. (Simply because of the fact that rail is the hardest turret to use and master). Stop giving excuses now that you lost the battle. I proved my point that intense use of shaft makes you a noob over time ( with targeting, hull control ) etc. And do you think we can have 1 v 1 s with isidas and freezes ? Think how dumb they would be.....

[M1-A2 840]

I know people the use rail have a different skill set than other turrets. And they can apply thier skills to the other weapons.You have proved that some people, (me included) can`t use railgun as effectively as some other guns.

The sole use of any turret makes you a "noob" with the other weapons. thats just a fact.

As far as im concerned just because someone uses shaft it does not necessarily make them a noob. Targeting wise, you said yourself that rail is the hardest to use and master.

You also forgot that I mentioned that I am using other turrets on my main and my alts.

Either way I feel that we should agree to disagree here.Everyone can have their own opinions. I have my own opinions and you have yours. And i feel that it`s best that we end it right now. I will be better with some weapons, and you`ll be better with others.

[Athena369 265]

I know people the use rail have a different skill set than other turrets. And they can apply thier skills to the other weapons.You have proved that some people, (me included) can`t use railgun as effectively as some other guns.

The sole use of any turret makes you a "noob" with the other weapons. thats just a fact.

As far as im concerned just because someone uses shaft it does not necessarily make them a noob. Targeting wise, you said yourself that rail is the hardest to use and master.

 

Either way I feel that we should agree to disagree here.Everyone can have their own opinions. I have my own opinions and you have yours. And i feel that it`s best that we end it right now. I will be better with some weapons, and you`ll be better with others. 

"The sole use of a turret makes you a noob with other weapons" lol It does NOT happen when you are using every other turret apart from shaft (nearly 70% of the shaft users do nothing but camp at the same place and using their noobtube to destroy all those light hull users trying to enter the base from a entry point.) Do you think that helps them in improvement of their general skills on using another turret? IT WON't DO THEM ANY GOOD! This is why I simply call shaft a weapon that doesn't help you improve and in fact makes you a noob over time. Lets say you are a PRO shafter at the rank generalissimo, Will anyone care about you now that you have tons of skills with shaft? NO! this is because you CANNOT imply your shaft skills on other turret while you can do it with other  turrets.( The arcade mode would help a bit but not much) and remember shaft is NOT accepted in nearly 95% of the official clan wars as well hence you won't be given any valuable recognition as well.  To add to our battle I wasn't talking only target wise. In a 1 v 1 railgun/ hornet battle  Targeting, timing, ability to turn the turret, Tactics  ability to control the hull all come into consideration. Seriously M1  do I need to explain everything from A-Z to a high ranker like you?  I thought by that rank you would be able to understand the most simple aspects of this game which unfortunately you have not been able to grasp.

 

Yeah I agree with you that we all can have different views and it's your account anyway, so I can't /won't tell anything about the decisions you will be taking. But it totally sucks when some people can't understand even the simplest facts. ( I'm talking about you here). Let's just stop it here. You got defeated by me and I had enough of your excuses already.

 

Good luck in both your tanki career and in real life. I have no hard feelings on you and if you want you can always ask for any help from me.

 

regards,

Athena

[Amagi 1,728]

^If you think Shaft players become noobs over time, I'm fine with it, as long as I get to keep my coffee and pizza :D

 

Personally, I think camping is really boring too, that's why I used Shaft-Hornet often, I like to sneak around the enemy bases and stab them in the back with double power.

[asifmak 467]

i know camping is boring but using shaft as main doesn't makes u noob in other weapons

now thats a fact and u must admit.

[Athena369 265]

i know camping is boring but using shaft as main doesn't makes u noob in other weapons

now thats a fact and u must admit.

Your point IMO is true as long as shaft is not mentioned....

[herminipper 34]

He was so sure that he could win with his shaft skills..... Unfortunately I made the point earlier that shaft users become noobs over time... Another proof for it. ( He was playing with his ALT account )

Railgun ftw!

[herminipper 34]

Hey Athena is this your only account or do you have a high tier one as well?

[Athena369 265]

Hey Athena is this your only account or do you have a high tier one as well?

i had a WO2 account but it got a forever ban and I'm using this one now.:)

[herminipper 34]

Damn I knew you weren't a noob

[kayitsiz 621]

Railgun ftw!

 

Hahaha! Railgun user won match to shaft user but using railgun. İs this win!?

 

İn 1vs1, railgun can defeat shaft, we know this. This is another topic.

 

Can you defeat shafter in 10 player DM? Or can you win shaft vs shaft match?

[Athena369 265]

Hahaha! Railgun user won match to shaft user but using railgun. İs this win!?

İn 1vs1, railgun can defeat shaft, we know this. This is another topic.

Can you defeat shafter in 10 player DM? Or can you win shaft vs shaft match?

why the hell did he agree to use rail in the first place? And whatever you say in not " a rail user" i switch my turrets and hulls accordingly to my taste. What do you mean in 1 v 1 railgun can defeat shaft? Both of us were using rail hornet M0 without drugs or anything. Do you at least know the basic rules of duelling?? And wow are you seriously dumb enough to use shaft in DMs? You can never ever do that without teaming with someone or is it that you mistyped TDM as DM?

[Lone.Warrior 1,331]

After the smart cool down update a lot of people equipped shaft.

[Amagi 1,728]

After the smart cool down update a lot of people equipped shaft.

Yeah, to spam double powers and snipe off those XP combos.

[kayitsiz 621]

why the hell did he agree to use rail in the first place? And whatever you say in not " a rail user" i switch my turrets and hulls accordingly to my taste. What do you mean in 1 v 1 railgun can defeat shaft? Both of us were using rail hornet M0 without drugs or anything. Do you at least know the basic rules of duelling?? And wow are you seriously dumb enough to use shaft in DMs? You can never ever do that without teaming with someone or is it that you mistyped TDM as DM?

İ will match you with rail, but i said "İ don't use it good yet."

Did you understand i don't play any other mode? Please don't write false informations without few reason.

And Shaft with DM and CP is most hardly modes for shaft(much times :) ), and i play this ones.

With shaft, sometimes i played 2-3 rail vs matches, that wast very hard because shaft isn't suitable gun for 1vs, but i tried and got somethings. İf i had, i use smoky but i dont have good smoky.

İn TDM, CP or CTF, shaft and railgun suitable in different situations.

 

İ want good, friendly, fair match with rail or shaft. İ know result, 1vs1 railgunner is more good. But rail vs rail, shaft vs rail or shaft vs shafy; i ready.