The 100 Shafts

[r_bqw0 33]

Ok. Ok. I think you guys have heard enough of people spamming topics saying "The Shaft is OP" or "The Shaft needs nerfing", but I really don't have a problem with the shaft itself. In fact, its a great weapon. HOWEVER, Lately I've been going to games and facing alot of shafts. Literally 75% of the players are using shaft and it just really ticks me off. Not that the fact that they're using the shaft, its the fact that SO MANY players are using shaft. When I think of this situation, that question in the back of my mind is always lingering; "Why do alot of people use the shaft?". I mean really why do they? It can't be because everyone likes to snipe because thats just too cliche. I'm an isida player :) and I even though I"m a close ranger, I usually have no problems with shaft. But lately it has just been so aggravating. So the question is :

 

Why do you think a lot of tankers are using shaft? 

 

And should the shaft ACTUALLY receive changes to power it down?

 

Let me know your thoughts down below.

[M1-A2 840]

The reality is that shaft is one of the rare weapons. You will occasionally see them in large groups, but that is also a rare sight. I believe a lot of people use shaft for its power and accuracy.

It should not be powered down for any reason what so ever.

Why? Because it's a sniping weapon. That's it, plain and simple.

You can't move while using scope and its reload is very long. This balances it out with its rival, railgun.

[Chameleos 157]

you see a lot of shafts because you arent a really high rank,if you dont fight with majors or stuff you're gonna fight with low ranks,mostly use shaft m0,and there's also a shaft m1 kit,but at higher ranks they're really rare

[M1-A2 840]

Unless you're in stadium, but even then seeing an entire team of them is rare.

[r_bqw0 33]

Unless you're in stadium, but even then seeing an entire team of them is rare.

I was in a medium ranged map. 

[Amagi 1,728]

I frequently go to Serpuhov and Stadium matches since I am a Shafter myself, but usually, I see that 80% of the players in the map are either Railers, Thunders, or Isidas. It's rare that I see more than 5 Shafters (Including myself) in a map.

[M1-A2 840]

I've seen (rarely) as many as five on each team in stadium. My computer doesn't like Sepuhov so I don't play on it often.

[duck100101 965]

Ok. Ok. I think you guys have heard enough of people spamming topics saying "The Shaft is OP" or "The Shaft needs nerfing", but I really don't have a problem with the shaft itself. In fact, its a great weapon. HOWEVER, Lately I've been going to games and facing alot of shafts. Literally 75% of the players are using shaft and it just really ticks me off. Not that the fact that they're using the shaft, its the fact that SO MANY players are using shaft. When I think of this situation, that question in the back of my mind is always lingering; "Why do alot of people use the shaft?". I mean really why do they? It can't be because everyone likes to snipe because thats just too cliche. I'm an isida player :) and I even though I"m a close ranger, I usually have no problems with shaft. But lately it has just been so aggravating. So the question is :

 

Why do you think a lot of tankers are using shaft? 

 

And should the shaft ACTUALLY receive changes to power it down?

 

Let me know your thoughts down below.

Becuase it got an awsome update ..

 

 

And it is just great with the cool downs just use 3 and you can kill anything

 

 

I am an isida player too :)

 

~Duck100101

[Amagi 1,728]

 just use 3 and you can kill anything

Hehehehe :D

[herminipper 34]

I was on serpuhov the other day and my entire team was sniping with shaft guns. I was an isida healing them all. Yes you did read that right; every single player on my team (except for me) was using the shaft

[Amagi 1,728]

I was on serpuhov the other day and my entire team was sniping with shaft guns. I was an isida healing them all. Yes you did read that right; every single player on my team (except for me) was using the shaft

Shaft is more common in the lower ranks, but in my rank, situations like yours are extremely rare, maybe nonexistent.

[herminipper 34]

Shaft is more common in the lower ranks, but in my rank, situations like yours are extremely rare, maybe nonexistent.

Yeah I heard that the shaft gun gets pretty crap later on

[Athena369 265]

Because shaft is for noobs who cant move their tank around or target as well as others...

[RustyNail 1,538]

I frequently go to Serpuhov and Stadium matches since I am a Shafter myself, but usually, I see that 80% of the players in the map are either Railers, Thunders, or Isidas. It's rare that I see more than 5 Shafters (Including myself) in a map.

First we need to decide what's rare for Shaft and what's not rare... Not all weapons have the same dynamics and contribution into a team fight. For example, 3 shafts in a team of 6 players is epidemic, while 3 rails is not. Elemental weapons AND Shaft are meant to have a small number in a team's synthesis.

Thus, when one sees 3 or 4 shafts in one team in Serpukhov (which I happen to like alot), one is justified to say that there are alot of Shafts.

And indeed, lately Shafts have multiplied. The reason has been pointed out in another topic and this reason is the cooldown update, which made easier for someone to accomplish higher score with a shaft and a double power - the contemporary candy.

 

Shaft is more common in the lower ranks, but in my rank, situations like yours are extremely rare, maybe nonexistent.

I don't know how one can know what's rare and what's not rare in many ranks simultaneously, unless one has 3 or 4 accounts spread in different ranks.

However, for your rank which is next to mine, I don't think shaft gathering is rare and the reason for this situation is explained in the above paragraph..

[Pathfinder 1,690]

Dunno if 75% is a bit of an exaggeration :P

[Amagi 1,728]

Yeah I heard that the shaft gun gets pretty crap later on

Actually, Shaft is really good at M2, it's just that it unlocks so far away from M1 and other tankers just search for other weapons.

 

I don't know how one can know what's rare and what's not rare in many ranks simultaneously, unless one has 3 or 4 accounts spread in different ranks.

Dude, I have 3 alternate accounts, one is WO3, another is 2nd Lt, and the third one is 1st Lt. The number of Shaft users between Staff Sergeant and Warrant Officer 2 is quite high.

 

Also, please use the default grey font color, neon green huts my eyes, especially when it's with a dark background.

[M1-A2 840]

Because shaft is for noobs who cant move their tank around or target as well as others...

1: you cant move when you are in snipe mode. its part of the gun characteristics.

2: I doubt you`ve actually fought against an experienced shafter. at your rank, the majority of shaft users are noobs who don`t know how to use the weapon.

3: when you get to my rank, you will learn respect for shaft. If you go up against an experienced shaft user, you are almost garanteed to die.

4:Shaft is the most accurate gun in the game. So your comment about not being able to target well is false.

5:I`ve used shaft for my entire career in tanki. I started some alt. accounts to test out new weapon combos. I`ve never had an issue with targeting. even with weapons I`ve never used before.

[Athena369 265]

1: you cant move when you are in snipe mode. its part of the gun characteristics.

2: I doubt you`ve actually fought against an experienced shafter. at your rank, the majority of shaft users are noobs who don`t know how to use the weapon.

3: when you get to my rank, you will learn respect for shaft. If you go up against an experienced shaft user, you are almost garanteed to die.

4:Shaft is the most accurate gun in the game. So your comment about not being able to target well is false.

5:I`ve used shaft for my entire career in tanki. I started some alt. accounts to test out new weapon combos. I`ve never had an issue with targeting. even with weapons I`ve never used before.

for the thousandth time.... Targeting is a skill earned over time. You wont get it buy using some dumb characteristic of a turret. I'm sure you will understand what I'm sure when you try to join a good clan and you lack targeting ( what i mean here is using your bare eye to target, not some sniper mode), lack of control over hulls, lack of ability on being a versatile player etc. Have you ever thought why shaft is NOT a turret allowed in most of the starladder matches? It's cause every single noob out there can use it with ease without regard to their skill and using shaft does NOT resemble that you are a skilled player or not! This is why every other turret in tanki is different from shaft aka noobtube. I don't hate shaft. Even i enjoy using it at times. My point is that long term use of it makes you pretty much of a worthless noob.

[M1-A2 840]

Wrong again. As I keep saying I've never used another weapon besides shaft. I started alt accounts to test new weapons. I have no problem with using my eyes to target. Also, I no scope a lot with my shaft so I get better aiming there. If you like I can fight you using one of my alts. I guarantee you I will win. You will also find that I am very capable of moving my hull and aiming while moving.

Shaft is not allowed in Starladder because it's too powerful. It's too easy to destroy hornets, which are the primary hull in the tournament.

[Athena369 265]

Wrong again. As I keep saying I've never used another weapon besides shaft. I started alt accounts to test new weapons. I have no problem with using my eyes to target. Also, I no scope a lot with my shaft so I get better aiming there. If you like I can fight you using one of my alts. I guarantee you I will win. You will also find that I am very capable of moving my hull and aiming while moving.

Shaft is not allowed in Starladder because it's too powerful. It's too easy to destroy hornets, which are the primary hull in the tournament.

ok since you are such a pro lets battle with M0 rail/hornet with one of your alts. Lol seriously? Get your facts right bro... M3 rail can 1 shot a M3 wasp without rail protection... If so why not remove railgun or wasp from light format? Shaft is not allowed because it does NOT take 1/100 th of skills needed to use a railgun. Add me up! Bad we will battle tomorrow at this time.

[M1-A2 840]

You forgot that teams are allowed a certain amount of rail protection per team. Also m3 rail cannot destroy m3 hornet unless it has mu's and since Starladder matches are played in the pro battle format without mu's....

Shaft needs skills to be used tactically to help the team.

 

I'll PM you about the battle.

[Athena369 265]

I'm sure you know that teams are allowed ONLY a limited protection from rail (100%) which can be used in several hulls and i was talking bout wasp, not hornet. Sure!

[kayitsiz 621]

for the thousandth time.... Targeting is a skill earned over time. You wont get it buy using some dumb characteristic of a turret. I'm sure you will understand what I'm sure when you try to join a good clan and you lack targeting ( what i mean here is using your bare eye to target, not some sniper mode), lack of control over hulls, lack of ability on being a versatile player etc. Have you ever thought why shaft is NOT a turret allowed in most of the starladder matches? It's cause every single noob out there can use it with ease without regard to their skill and using shaft does NOT resemble that you are a skilled player or not! This is why every other turret in tanki is different from shaft aka noobtube. I don't hate shaft. Even i enjoy using it at times. My point is that long term use of it makes you pretty much of a worthless noob.

First if you say "Targeting is a skill earned over time." Railgun is same. Moreover shaft's other requipments more hard.

 

Second, we watch and see other all turrets, tactics, ways etc.. and if we want, we try use it. Now if i use railgun or other weapon etc.., i know what should i do. Only i need upgrade skills.

 

Third, 5 weapon and 7 gun, we can't use in Starladder so why? Other all weapons don't need skill? Game should looks match.

Some Starlaader matches made in forestly maps. İn this maps, shaft can defence too quick.

 

And last, what time you will enter game?

[Athena369 265]

First if you say "Targeting is a skill earned over time." Railgun is same. Moreover shaft's other requipments more hard.

 

Second, we watch and see other all turrets, tactics, ways etc.. and if we want, we try use it. Now if i use railgun or other weapon etc.., i know what should i do. Only i need upgrade skills.

 

Third, 5 weapon and 7 gun, we can't use in Starladder so why? Other all weapons don't need skill? Game should looks match.

Some Starlaader matches made in forestly maps. İn this maps, shaft can defence too quick.

 

And last, what time you will enter game?

I'm sorry i didn't get any of the things you just mentioned. Can you re explain them to me? Lol i remember now you are another one of those shaft guys i have a duel with right?? Lol i will be inline tomorrow at this time...

[asifmak 467]

at my rank i rarely see shafts maybe one or two in whole day.

yes they can be seen in larger maps like serpuhov etc. players don't usually prefer to buy later modifications of shafts plus they cannot be counted into versatile category and shafts are pretty boring i must say.

i do own a shaft m2 but i don't usually use that.

something must be done to change this turret into a interesting sniping machine