Reduce power of garage supplies

[Baby_Sam 614]

You are talking of people not having supplies. 

I m talking of people that have them, but choose not to use them. This is the problem. And are many players in this situation. 

If more players will start to play pro battles, then those battles will not be so boring and competitive, because now only experienced players play them. 

Tanki devs said they wont change the supply system.

So don t like supplies? . Play pro battles. This is the only solution. There should be more pro battle players if drugging is the problem.

1. Players don t know of pro battles.

2. Players don t like pro battles.

3. Pro pass is too expensive for them.

By the same token, I tell you that if you don't like people who do not like to use drugs, buy a PRO battle pass and make private battles so only your friends and people with similar mentality can join them.

 

It is up to us to choose what to do, and we are asking to be accommodated.

[Maf 32,300]

You are talking of people not having supplies. 

I m talking of people that have them, but choose not to use them.

If a player has lots of supplies and his team is being wrecked by druggers, yet they choose not to use them, then I don't know what's wrong with that person. That's just pure masochism -_-  

[Baby_Sam 614]

If a player has lots of supplies and his team is being wrecked by druggers, yet they choose not to use them, then I don't know what's wrong with that person. That's just pure masochism -_-  

I leave such battles because i am not.

[Brubook 1,161]

 

For your information, moderators are not developers. I was a normal player just like you only a few months ago, but then I volunteered to be a forum moderator. I may represent the administration, but I still have my own opinions and the developers' opinions may be different from mine.

Sorry Mafioza121 .... I got confused in the rush of writing. But I know your position. My fault!

[r_belege0 41]

If a player has lots of supplies and his team is being wrecked by druggers, yet they choose not to use them, then I don't know what's wrong with that person. That's just pure masochism -_-  

Not masochism. They are selfish. They think only to themselves. They invest nothing so they have nothing to lose.

People who leave the battle when drugging begin are as bad. They create unbalance in game that is  speculated to capture flags or create other advantages.

In real life saboteurs and deserters are shot. They are considered the scum of the army.

If players will fight back when drugging starts, they will find that the drugging will soon end.

Often a team test if the other  team players are brave or cowards. If the opposite team is made of cowards, they will drug because they feel the victory and want to have a good score to take as many cry as possible.

The best way to end a drug war is to respond to drugs with drugs. Soon the first drugger team will take defensive positions and drugging will be drastically reduced. But you need brave players on your team, not saboteurs and deserters

[Brubook 1,161]

Not masochism. They are selfish. They think only to themselves. They invest nothing so they have nothing to lose.

People who leave the battle when drugging begin are as bad. They create unbalance in game that is  speculated to capture flags or create other advantages.

In real life saboteurs and deserters are shot. They are considered the scum of the army.

If players will fight back when drugging starts, they will find that the drugging will soon end.

Often a team test if the other  team players are brave or cowards. If the opposite team is made of cowards, they will drug because they feel the victory and want to have a good score to take as many cry as possible.

The best way to end a drug war is to respond to drugs with drugs. Soon the first drugger team will take defensive positions and drugging will be drastically reduced. But you need brave players on your team, not saboteurs and deserters

You talk about drugs like they would be a skill or something that braves do! Pressing buttons is not that skills requiring!

 

Your continuous forcing people to drug (otherwise they are saboteurs or deserters) is quite inappropriate. Also there is no "testing braves or cowards" in drugging, as almost all the times druggers do it from start to end. Many times, as they appear, first thing they press a button!

 

And there is no strategy to change a battle from 7-0 to 7-20 by 2-3 druggers (as we see it often happens)!

 

Actually it is more of a coward to run around a map like a xmas tree ... overprotected and overpowered, rather than play with your sole equipment!!! Your concept of "courage" is quite distorted!!!

 

Stop calling saboteurs and deserters fair players!

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

Play a PRO battle. No drugs allowed.

clearly you did not read the part where he stated that he doesnt want to pay for a fair battle

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

A non drug section would be also welcome (not a PAY one). If I have to pay to find non druggers, I will not have the crystal to buy tanks, turrets or upgrades!

 

beaku read this -_- he is basically saying it is not right to have to pay for a fair battle and he doesnt want to pay for a fair battle

[RustyNail 1,538]

If a player has lots of supplies and his team is being wrecked by druggers, yet they choose not to use them, then I don't know what's wrong with that person. That's just pure masochism -_-  

I can tell you what's "wrong".. It's the conclusion that using them won't change anything. One drugger isn't enough to counterfight a team of druggers, especially is he doesn't have the superior gismo druggers usually have.

And there's nothing wrong about it.

In such a situation, one can only endure the rest of the battle if one wants to get one's share of funds.. nothing more.

 

You might also want to take into consideration that when the case is "I save supplies in order to have for a really needing occasion" then the said person should calculate if the cost of the supplies needed is more than the funds to be earned. If not, whay should he spend the supplies just in order to get half their cost in funds? No reason at all.

Once again, the only one that can spend supplies just for the fun of it, is the same person that can afford to buy lots of supplies. That's a fact, not an idea or an opinion, as some Devs might think.

[RustyNail 1,538]

Not masochism. They are selfish. They think only to themselves. They invest nothing so they have nothing to lose.

People who leave the battle when drugging begin are as bad. They create unbalance in game that is  speculated to capture flags or create other advantages.

In real life saboteurs and deserters are shot. They are considered the scum of the army.

If players will fight back when drugging starts, they will find that the drugging will soon end.

Often a team test if the other  team players are brave or cowards. If the opposite team is made of cowards, they will drug because they feel the victory and want to have a good score to take as many cry as possible.

The best way to end a drug war is to respond to drugs with drugs. Soon the first drugger team will take defensive positions and drugging will be drastically reduced. But you need brave players on your team, not saboteurs and deserters

Dude, you have an issue.. I mean, an internal one.. Just relax and get a girlfriend or a boyfriend, it might help you.. in general, try to focus on the bright and sunny side of life.

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

There is no such issue with less players at the moment. It seems to be "critical mass" chooses to use supplies, ruther then not.

Hazel, I would like to hear more about this.  So this would mean more players prefer the use of supplies, which in tur means the purchase of supplies.  I play nearly pay free, and this account is all free, I have another that had a some money spent on it.  That said, I have been in battle after battle lately that is nothing but a supply fest.  I play Serpuhov mainly and every, and I mean every run into the base has drugged units, and now,, I'm finding more and more drugged units defending.  I won't argue the point of good or bad, but the reality of this matter.  THAT'S A LOT OF DRUGS, for just one 30 minute game even.  This is then a matter of economics, and no longer game play.  I'm happy Tanki employees get a check, that's good thing, but some of the voices here are wondering if there is a way to make a corner that is drug free, or drug limited.  If the critical mass is in favor now of usage, then supplies are the norm, and the norm in this case is COSTLY, money to be spent as it were.

 

Is this the beginning of the end of free players having any real impact on the game and considerations for it moving forward?  Balance is always a consideration it is said at Tanki, and it drugs are the norm, design moving forward will have to take into account the gameplay that is typical of players, and by your account, critical mass is supply based.  Does this mean non-supply players, buyers or not, the purists, they will be playing a game designed for a very different type of play as time moves forward?

 

I ask this because I might not be the best player in the world, but I definitely, one, DON'T SUCK, two, am probably a well above average shaft player, and as such, I notice things, and I have noticed that the amount of work it is to play and try to be competitive is rising to the point of near impossibility with skill alone now.  Bases constantly over run by drugged players, who spawn camp DRUGGED too, it's turkey shoot, we can't even run off and try to regroup and use some tactics, it's over before it starts, not because of the camping, but because the Rico sitting there is sheilded and DP and three hits will kill me, and I can't accelarate fast enough to at least didge one hit.  That's an example, but it's all of the game play now.  Hell, I can pick up a DP box and full charge on a mammoth and sometimes NOT kill it, and the arcade shot 3 seconds later, nope, they healed, HEALED, themselves, regularly.  That sort of economics is unplayable if it becomes the norm.

 

So tell us, where is this all heading then?

[beaku 2,656]

beaku read this -_- he is basically saying it is not right to have to pay for a fair battle and he doesnt want to pay for a fair battle

If you don't want to pay then face druggers. Simple.

[AbsoluteAlphaZero 2,027]

Deleted ~ I remember when I had 0 drugs each I needed to face medium m2 kit a half year ago)

[Brubook 1,161]

I know, the comment that will be posted by me will get many dislikes but here it is:

- Are you irritated of druggers? Play pro battles, it's cheaper then drugging against druggers.

It is not a matter of dislikes actually ... I would rather say it is useless .... This is just a copy of something some other said. And usually these others said it because they didn't read but the last post. If you read back you will also find the relative and exaustive answers about pro battles!!!

[Baby_Sam 614]

I know, the comment that will be posted by me will get many dislikes but here it is:

- Are you irritated of druggers? Play pro battles, it's cheaper then drugging against druggers.

Would it surprise you if you were not in the first 5 people who said the same exact thing, and we got tired of cutting and pasting our previous replies?

[AbsoluteAlphaZero 2,027]

It is not a matter of dislikes actually ... I would rather say it is useless .... This is just a copy of something some other said. And usually these others said it because they didn't read but the last post. If you read back you will also find the relative and exaustive answers about pro battles!!!

Okay I'm sorry ok, dont hit me )

[AbsoluteAlphaZero 2,027]

Would it surprise you if you were not in the first 5 people who said the same exact thing, and we got tired of cutting and pasting our previous replies?

Well, I already use this phrase a week after pro battles are released.

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

If you don't want to pay then face druggers. Simple.

thats not right to have to pay for a fair battle -_-

[AbsoluteAlphaZero 2,027]

It is not a matter of dislikes actually ... I would rather say it is useless .... This is just a copy of something some other said. And usually these others said it because they didn't read but the last post. If you read back you will also find the relative and exaustive answers about pro battles!!!

But.. you are right in my opnion drugs should be refunded and deleted from the game. Or pro battle pass should be cheaper. Because at the moment it is like: Free to play Pay to win

[danyrito 0]

I agree with you

Your words are logical

[Brubook 1,161]

Okay I'm sorry ok, dont hit me )

Absolutely not against you! :)

I just read and reply to it quite some times already ... that is the reason of that answer!

You are always welcome to point out your reasons and explain your views, your likes and dislikes!

[Brubook 1,161]

Free to play Pay to win

Nice concept synthesis! :)

[Baby_Sam 614]

Well, I already use this phrase a week after pro battles are released.

I was tempted to say I am sorry that you haven't learned anything since then, but I am not going to say that. :P

[AbsoluteAlphaZero 2,027]

I was tempted to say I am sorry that you haven't learned anything since then, but I am not going to say that. :P

hahah :p

[RustyNail 1,538]

I know, the comment that will be posted by me will get many dislikes but here it is:

- Are you irritated of druggers? Play pro battles, it's cheaper then drugging against druggers.

I was ready to answer properly to this, but  then I saw that you have been answered, so no need for me  to do it..