Reduce power of garage supplies

[Brubook 1,161]

I remember how happy all the complaining players were with Smart Cool-Downs but now? They're complaining again and want supplies to be nerfed even more? Come on... Just deal with it or join pro-battles. Enough Veterans already left the game because of this, don't make it worse.

Same as above!

[kayitsiz 621]

I don't understand what your problem is with drugs, they're fun, and if you don't like them, go join a pro battle! 

 

Smart Cooldowns weren't enough to nerf drugs anyway?

 

Smart Cooldowns are great as a nerf, but there is a problem.

Before that, that was possible to drug back with 3 different drugs when you see another 234 drugger.

Now, this is not possible. This force people to drug before emtering a battle.

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

So, I in good faith got hold of a Pro pass, hit server 3, set up a Serpuhov no drugs, no supplies, game, and guess how many people joined?

 

Precious squat all 0 people.  I set up a Berlin that way, guess how many joined?  Yep, you might be feeling the need to go number 2 now with all that squating.

 

I did a few more, you're on the pot now, wondering what heck?  Because it was a lot of squat.

 

What gives, I have been looking and nothing, no battles ever when I'm around.  Wasn't there going to be a push for this sort of thing?

[Scorpenstein 159]

Instead a 20-0 score game is boring, probably for both teams! Think about football .... you play the whole game to get that 1 or maybe 2 goals. Is football boring?

 

Yes.

[RustyNail 1,538]

Large maps create nothing but fatal errors. That's why they are rarely played. The programmers STILL cannot figure out how to solve the problem other than to say "Don't play those maps."

The really big maps (like dusseldorf) are kina laggy for many players / weaker pcs.

But medium sized or medium-large maps like Serpuhov, Kolhoz, Desert, etc have been reduced or even abandoned after Tanki gave additional armor to medium / heavy tanks, increasing their popularity. Going from wasp and hornet to viking and titan makes the length of Desert or Dusseldorf unbearable. (another failed update of Tanki)

That's why nowadays the more playable maps are small ones.

[JROCKS 46]

Your conclusions and arguments are not strong enough. I say this topic is pointless, as nothing is going to change. If it were up to me, i would close this topic, as its been going for a while, and nothing has changed. Its a stalemate, and nothing has been said that has brought forth change, so nothing else likely will... As much as it pains everybody, i think we just gotta wait until Unity is done before we bring this up again. Very little attention will be paid to it until then. Obviously there are enough players happy that tanki doesnt need to change anything. Besides, they dont care right now. All they care about at the moment is the Unity Version.

[creeperskelly 1,281]

I read the whole sum-up. I concluded that those complaining about supplies are simply butt-hurt and annoyed because of wrong decisions they made in the game, the game is totally affordable and playable without having to buy with a penny. 

 

Your insults were truly hypocritical, I do hope that at some point you do mature up. Stop complaining. 

Totally affordable? You call a $700 tank "affordable?" OMFG.

[creeperskelly 1,281]

The really big maps (like dusseldorf) are kina laggy for many players / weaker pcs.

But medium sized or medium-large maps like Serpuhov, Kolhoz, Desert, etc have been reduced or even abandoned after Tanki gave additional armor to medium / heavy tanks, increasing their popularity. Going from wasp and hornet to viking and titan makes the length of Desert or Dusseldorf unbearable. (another failed update of Tanki)

That's why nowadays the more playable maps are small ones.

Well I have a fairly beefy PC and a really fat pipe and I still cannot play those maps. In fact now I have to disable the skybox just to play Serphukhov.

 

Interesting note: in a typical 15 minute round only about 10MB of data passes from your computer to the Tanki servers. I can play Tanki using 3G on my phone tethered through USB with no more lag or issues than using 100Mbps/50Mbps internet. It doesn't actually require much bandwidth or computer power to play (3G typically maxes out at 4/1).

[creeperskelly 1,281]

So, I in good faith got hold of a Pro pass, hit server 3, set up a Serpuhov no drugs, no supplies, game, and guess how many people joined?

 

Precious squat all 0 people.  I set up a Berlin that way, guess how many joined?  Yep, you might be feeling the need to go number 2 now with all that squating.

 

I did a few more, you're on the pot now, wondering what heck?  Because it was a lot of squat.

 

What gives, I have been looking and nothing, no battles ever when I'm around.  Wasn't there going to be a push for this sort of thing?

Because they screwed it up by requiring a Pro Pass just to do things that used to be FREE.

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

Because they screwed it up by requiring a Pro Pass just to do things that used to be FREE.

Fair enough, but weren't we going to give this a go?  Pro pass and to heck with everyone else?

[pwhite 120]

Maybe you are very skilled, but normally drug wins. I made also example of overpower of drugs that make fatal even 1 shot of some weapons!

You talk about buying .... and I say: is this game a matter of money? I mean, do the richest win? If so, it is very unfair!

Im sorry, but that is the point of every internet game that is "free to play". It will always be.

[RustyNail 1,538]

Your conclusions and arguments are not strong enough. I say this topic is pointless, as nothing is going to change. If it were up to me, i would close this topic, as its been going for a while, and nothing has changed. Its a stalemate, and nothing has been said that has brought forth change, so nothing else likely will... As much as it pains everybody, i think we just gotta wait until Unity is done before we bring this up again. Very little attention will be paid to it until then. Obviously there are enough players happy that tanki doesnt need to change anything. Besides, they dont care right now. All they care about at the moment is the Unity Version.

Our arguments and the conclusions are strong enough. :)

We represent a part of Tanki's customers and we have made certain complains.

We have analysed this issue as much as possible and came to certain proposals.

 

If you personally find this topic pointless or boring, feel free to walk away. There are other topics out there, maybe more interesting. Of course, more than 21k views, rather disagree with you. ;)

 

It's a stalemate like you said, only because Administration is very busy elswhere eating pop corn. -_-

 

As for the Unity, do you really think we made all this effort just to gain some changes in flash?

We understand that all resources are spend in Unity development and we fight to incluse in that engine solutions for this issue.

Nobody asked Administration to change tommorrow flash Tanki according to our will. But we want it to come here and discuss openly and respectfully this issue in regard to Unity version.

[racer22_online 206]

I don't have a problem with the drugs in many cases.

However, I do observe that some tankers over do it - I.e. when they 'spend' more drugs in value than the number of crystals earned then this is economic madness.  And in doing so they imbalance the battlefield such that the losing side often quits - so we all lose.

 

The 'good battles' I talk about - simply have much less garage drug use.  I want more of these.

 

Because some tankers don't see it this way and are willing to imbalance battles for their own gains - I would like a way to get away from them.

Pro Mode could be ideal - if Tanki had not made it so 'unpopular'.

 

Slowing down the use of garage drugs would be enough to make this improvement without upsetting everyone.

Also showing how many garage drugs someone used on the scoreboard would shame some of them!  or at least we could all know for sure it was not skill they used!

[JROCKS 46]

Our arguments and the conclusions are strong enough. :)

We represent a part of Tanki's customers and we have made certain complains.

We have analysed this issue as much as possible and came to certain proposals.

 

If you personally find this topic pointless or boring, feel free to walk away. There are other topics out there, maybe more interesting. Of course, more than 21k views, rather disagree with you. ;)

 

It's a stalemate like you said, only because Administration is very busy elswhere eating pop corn. -_-

 

As for the Unity, do you really think we made all this effort just to gain some changes in flash?

We understand that all resources are spend in Unity development and we fight to incluse in that engine solutions for this issue.

Nobody asked Administration to change tommorrow flash Tanki according to our will. But we want it to come here and discuss openly and respectfully this issue in regard to Unity version.

What im saying is that its pointless to bring this up right now. Bring this topic up again with more heat after they finish Unity, so that they have no choice but to do something about it. Right now they wont do anything because they are "busy" with Unity, so bring this up with them after. 

 

I think the big thing with the drug abuse is that drugs are introduced and explained to players in the first couple ranks. When i was a younger rank, nobody explained the drug concept to me. It took quite a while until i fully understood the concept, but nowadays, young tankers are taught only that drugs=power, and so its drilled into their minds very early in their tanker career

[JROCKS 46]

 

 

It's a stalemate like you said, only because Administration is very busy elswhere eating pop corn. -_-

 

It better be damn good popcorn, cause they are losing many, many players, and not just because of drugs....

[Opex-Rah 5,381]

Da! Very good popcorn!

[sha77777_super 877]

There should definitely be a limit. :)

Example) In a 30 min battle, a person can use only 10 supplies each, In a 15 min battle, a person can use only 5 supplies each etc. 

[RustyNail 1,538]

What im saying is that its pointless to bring this up right now. Bring this topic up again with more heat after they finish Unity, so that they have no choice but to do something about it. Right now they wont do anything because they are "busy" with Unity, so bring this up with them after. 

 

I think the big thing with the drug abuse is that drugs are introduced and explained to players in the first couple ranks. When i was a younger rank, nobody explained the drug concept to me. It took quite a while until i fully understood the concept, but nowadays, young tankers are taught only that drugs=power, and so its drilled into their minds very early in their tanker career

 

Assuming that Administration does take into consideration its player base needs, which I doubt it, at least in regard to EN language community, I think that the right time to bring this issue up is now, before Unity set up is finished. So that they can't argue "Oh, we didn't know and now it's too late because our new mechanics blah blah blah..."

 

However, as you can very well see, Tanki Administration - as shown by its representative - all it does is insult Tanki's customers and laugh at their issues.

Well, they can keep sawing off the branch on which they sit, untill the profound result occurs...

[kayitsiz 621]

Da! Very good popcorn!

If you (all desigpers) spoil the game and lose a lot more players, even us, we will be like that 

While watching:

 

 

[JROCKS 46]

Bring back the old version of drugging and it will be solved. Easier to use all drugs, thus leading to people going through supplies faster, which in turn means they run out quicker. With smart cooldowns, i can drug hardcore in a battle and still barely even use any because of the restrictions from the cooldowns. Bring back the old drug way and people will flush all their drugs down the toilet :) JROCKS OUT. Dev's, lemme join you in sitting back and eating popcorn while these people continue to cry :) I'll bring the butter.

[grandpegasis5123 20]

Da! Very good popcorn!

gimme sum

[swede1 1,726]

I only stay in this game so Hazel gets fat on popcorn, it's the only fun this game has to offer anymore, I'm glad I can entertain, I don't even have to write my own material, Hazel and Semyon gives me more than enough to keep them munching for another yr

[FaaiqBilal1 795]

Totally affordable? You call a $700 tank "affordable?" OMFG.

Umm.. how is it a 700$ tank? It's totally free, no one is charging a penny from you. 

[Papaya14 481]

Da! Very good popcorn!

You can't just say that and not share any with me! :(

[creeperskelly 1,281]

Umm.. how is it a 700$ tank? It's totally free, no one is charging a penny from you. 

1. If you buy crystals the equivalent is $700 to get a fully upgraded M3 Hammerking.

2. If you don't buy crystals the equivalent amount of hours spent for "free" converted to real wages in order to get the same tank without buying anything is actually about $15,795.