Let's discuss Brutus!

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

Any feed back on the effectiveness of Brutus drone?  Is it worth it even at a low buy-in pcost of 1000 crystals?  How effective is it with low MUs (2 or 3)?  Does 1% make any difference at all?  Is a 10% increase worth 51000 crystals or is Brutus mostly for folks with crystals to burn (this would be primarily buyers)?

Edited June 7, 2019 by ByeByeBye

[Michael828 816]

Cost of upgrading is still very expensive, this isn't something non-buyers could afford with ease, let alone low ranked players. Brutus had great potential, and I'm pretty disappointed.

 

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

I'd say it's mostly for players with crystals to burn. It's a great and affordable starter drone for the low ranks, yes, but higher than that and you'd have to face this (familiar to me) dilemma:

 

In the mobile game Monster Legends, the battles there are 3 v 3. Some skills that the monsters learn are able to hit all enemies for the same damage. For the players, there was almost always this dilemma when choosing the right skills for you. For the AOE skills, would you rather have a low-moderate damage + an effect, or would you rather have high damage alone. I was one of the players that chose the low-moderate damage + effect. Both options have advantages and disadvantages over the other. 

 

Let's convert this to Tanki. Some drones are great when under 10 upgrades. Say for instance, the Assault Drone for particular turrets. If they upgrade it enough, they'd get maybe 2.6-3% more damage and protection. And then they'd have an effect that the drone gives them. What I'm basically trying to say is this:

 

If your Brutus Drone gives you +5% damage and protection, would you use that or your Driver Drone that is upgraded to give you +2% damage and protection? And let's go all the way to Legends with crystals. Would you rather have +10% damage and protection or would you rather have +5% + the ability to plant 9 mines every 40 seconds? 

 

 

I tried breaking it down to see exactly how useful the 10% damage increase would be for particular turrets. For one, Stock M4 Striker would be able to one-shot unprotected light hulls since 110% of 970 is 1,067. For M4 Shaft, it would be able to one-shot Stock M3 heavy hulls. With M4 Thunder, you'd be one-shotting many unprotected light hulls since the average damage would become almost 1,000. For Freeze, it's an immediately more powerful version of Corrosive Mix. So a Stock Freeze can just use the Brutus Drone to deal more damage than Corrosive Mix Freeze.  

 

The others' damage statistics are too spaced out for any largely noticeable difference.

 

I'm pretty sure 1% makes no difference. 

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

Would you rather have +10% damage and protection?

This

[XxStriker 519]

I did get the 1000 crystals version and done 1 upgrade, but I do not consider 1.4% stats crucial, so I never used it...

 

However I've seen some occasions where the drone saved some player's hides, for example one where a wasp with brutus was carrying a flag and was left with exactly 1 pixel in his hp bar by an enemy attack, and he managed to capture.

[CabbageRoll 3,018]

The fact that it still uses batteries just makes it trash. Price is 1000 and then upgrades are unaffordable to get it's full potential. Developers are really clever.

 

I love it exactly because of it uselessness and the fact that people are actually burning their batteries so they give tanki more profit or lose the privilege of drone.

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

Cost of upgrading is still very expensive, this isn't something non-buyers could afford with ease, let alone low ranked players. Brutus had great potential, and I'm pretty disappointed.

 

Numbers, good.  Complaint, bad.  But ll said and told, yes, liking the graph.  Don't complain though, even if it expensive, invest in it and that's money spent you don't have to spend AGAIN buying drugs.

[XxStriker 519]

Numbers, good.  Complaint, bad.  But ll said and told, yes, liking the graph.  Don't complain though, even if it expensive, invest in it and that's money spent you don't have to spend AGAIN buying drugs.

Technically, you still need to spend 300 crystals per minute to operate it, which counts as a supply...

[wolverine848 13,097]

Numbers, good.  Complaint, bad.  But ll said and told, yes, liking the graph.  Don't complain though, even if it expensive, invest in it and that's money spent you don't have to spend AGAIN buying drugs.

Low-mid ranked non-buyers would have to sacrifice something (a new turret or MUs on current items or new module) in order to MU this drone.

 

And why wouldn't you need supplies + this drone?  the (up to) 10% bonus does not make up for any lack of supplies which give you +100%...

Edited June 7, 2019 by wolverine848

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

Technically, you still need to spend 300 crystals per minute to operate it, which counts as a supply...

You know, hadn't given that too much thought.  That's about a wash I guess, against drugs.

 

I revise my statement, while in the long term you will get more stable returns, it's not that great after all.  Skip it, and drugs, and just MU.

Low-mid ranked non-buyers would have to sacrifice something (a new turret or MUs on current items or new module) in order to MU this drone.

 

And why wouldn't you need supplies + this drone?  the (up to) 10% bonus does not make up for any lack of supplies which give you +100%...

You know me, no drugs = good, drugs = bad, so, I'm tunnel visioned.  Nevermind me.

Edited June 7, 2019 by FogOfWar_XXX

[Maf 32,300]

Using this drone at anything less than 15/20 steps is just an insane waste of batteries. 300 crystals a minute for 1% extra damage and armour? No thanks. As for full MU - it's a decent bonus, but I'd much rather have a more interesting ability, like that of Booster, Lifeguard or Sprinter.

[Team_Sniper 7]

I have a maxed-out Brutus. I'd say its fairly decent but like others have said, it's only worth it when you have at least 15/20 of the upgrade steps completed due to the cost of batteries. One thing I love about it was that it's half the price as others yet it is always effective anytime you have it attached.

 

Also I'd probably only get it if you use medium-heavy tanks. If you have something light such as a M3 Wasp and it increases protection by 10%, that's only about 177 extra damage with a maxed out Brutus. However since I use a maxed M2 Titan, I get about 353 extra protection, which I can justify with the cost of batteries. Same goes for stronger turrets as it increases damage as well.

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

Brutus sucks today. Doesn't even do anything really but act as a trash can for some of your crystals.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

52 minutes ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

Brutus sucks today. Doesn't even do anything really but act as a trash can for some of your crystals.

Its actually pretty influential for a cheap drone that doesn't consume batteries. I have it maxed out on many accounts. And in most cases, I've been doing super well with it.

[Iron_Man 2,376]

Brutus is the most cost effective drone.

For what it consumes, what you get is more, compared to other drones. I totally prefer Brutus over any other drone (but crisis )

[FX011 57]

On 11/19/2021 at 9:48 AM, Iron_Man said:

Brutus is the most cost effective drone.

For what it consumes, what you get is more, compared to other drones. I totally prefer Brutus over any other drone (but crisis )

That's all I can afford lol, hope they dont nerf it.

Edited November 20, 2021 by FX011

[Incorp 2,084]

I woke up with 5k GS on spiderhiest where I had only 4k previously 0.0 talk about overnight change. I didn't do anything too.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

A noob drone!

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

Personally, I do not think equipment in Tanki should be "balanced" using consumables (crystals, tankcoins, supplies, batteries)
 

[Incorp 2,084]

2 minutes ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

Personally, I do not think equipment in Tanki should be "balanced" using consumables (crystals, tankcoins, supplies, batteries)
 

Yup, u just need to have enough of those 'consumables'. 

Brutus cheaply raise your GS if you didn't have a maxed drone. Good drone, boosts is really noticeable.

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

Just now, Incorp said:

Yup, u just need to have enough of those 'consumables'. 

Brutus cheaply raise your GS if you didn't have a maxed drone. Good drone, boosts is really noticeable.

True

Imagine if everyone in the game received unlimited crystals, supplies, and batteries....
...with Brutus as it is now, I wonder how many players are willing to equip it as their main drone then?

[2shots2kills 2,366]

32 minutes ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

True

...with Brutus as it is now, I wonder how many players are willing to equip it as their main drone then?

I am currently playing with Brutus (Legend 20) as I stopped using Saboteur since it does not fit my kind of playstyle. I am waiting for my Defender to finish its upgrades, but it's gonna take a while. 

Brutus does its honest job for what it costs (nothing)... it's certainly better than nothing. (Also you get to brag when you finish first among an ocean of Booster, Defenders, Blasters and Saboteurs)

 

[readyfireaim 369]

I got Brutus to 20/20 for the Black Friday sales and I can actually feel the difference. For what it's worth, this drone can actually affect your tank somewhat.

[URZA 3]

Have my Brutus maxed out and I'm at warrant officer 1. I'm one shot killing my opponents with striker or tesla. Amazing drone that is cheap and doesn't use batteries are supplies. 

[N3tralRE 73]

4 hours ago, ColosoAG said:

You think that brutus has great potential, but i tell you not... brutus despiste is the cheapest drone in game, is still a garbage compared to other drones due that only gives supply bonus to boosted armor and boosted damage (and is only when consumables are active) wich is the biggest downside of this drone despiste it doesn't consume batteries.

I have upgraded this drone to +MK7 and is still a garbage due that in order to get the effect bonus on supplies they must be active (wich is the fact they don't tell you, and is the same for the rest of drones) If the drone instead of giving a bonus to supplies effect was giving a small bonus to hull and turret damage, hp and speed values, I would agree with you in the fact that brutus whould have a great potetial as a drone despiste no giving specialized habilities.

The main reason i still have it is because so cheap that i will save enough crystals to get rid of this mosntrosity and buy serious drones like driver, booster, assaulter, engineer or hyperion.

I mean, Brutus got reworked about 7 months ago. And the post you are quoting is from 2019, which was when Brutus used to consume batteries while also giving its user small bonuses to armor and damage. If I recall correctly, Brutus' damage bonus can accumulate with Adrenaline's damage bonus, giving the user a cool edge over some foes.

Alas, however, the devs ultimately made Brutus the budget drone that doesn't consume batteries.