Hopper

[Viking4s 10,791]

18 hours ago, fghjkl54 said:

i mean if the meet up was good for you or not

I did not meet with it, I just took the pic from another post.

[Viking4s 10,791]

2 hours ago, Aegis said:

From Lexicon (powered by Oxford), Tank is "a heavy armoured fighting vehicle carrying guns and moving on a continuous articulated metal track".

Ref: https://www.lexico.com/definition/tank

This should enough to explain everything you said.

BTW, what's your deal? First you argue that this game is not (only) about tanks, despite the name of this game literally translates to "Tank Online". Then you argue that a tank can be hovering which every single person know articulated metal track is what separate a tank from ordinary armoured vehicles. 

As for Mario Kart, you are right, no one drives karts this way and no one will throw a turtle shell to people, but at least you are still driving "Karts". For the case in TO, no one drives tanks like this. Also, have you ever seen a tank as fast as a sports car and able to pick up air drop boxes? No, but at least those are still classified as "Tanks". As for Hopper and Ares, they don't even match the definition of tanks.

The definition of the a tank has evolved since for most of the people (like technology does), oxford dictionary is conservative and you seem a bit narrow minded too.

This is what you are looking for, a pointless debate? I think we are beyond that now, this is the second hovering hull in Tanki, so you can still debate on your own and wonder if TO will change its name or remove the hull.

Does Firebird a gun by the way? Does Isida a gun too? They don't fall on the above oxford definition. How long have then been in the Tanki game. Should we remove them too to suit your liking? Do yourself a favour and play another game before you lose it.

[Cleric 1,385]

38 minutes ago, Viking4s said:

The definition of the a tank has evolved since for most of the people (like technology does), oxford dictionary is conservative and you seem a bit narrow minded too.

This is what you are looking for, a pointless debate? I think we are beyond that now, this is the second hovering hull in Tanki, so you can still debate on your own and wonder if TO will change its name or remove the hull.

Does Firebird a gun by the way? Does Isida a gun too? They don't fall on the above oxford definition. How long have then been in the Tanki game. Should we remove them too to suit your liking? Do yourself a favour and play another game before you lose it.

You are questioning the Oxford dictionary and its authority of defining terms and phrases, which if I recall Oxford has been doing this for centuries. Where were you at that time? What is your next step Mr. IKnowBetterThanYou (I don't make this name up, you admitted it yourself, remember?), challenging all the scientists, saying Earth is flat, because science evolves like technology does?

 

If I recall correctly, you started all these. Remember that absurd "It was never a tank game" statement that you made 2 hrs ago? And now it all the sudden become pointless isn't it?

 

BTW, I believe you have not been playing in this account for about a month. Are you playing in other account(s)? Or it is you who have abandoned this game the whole time?

Edited September 19, 2020 by Aegis

[TheCongoSpider 8,957]

19 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

It better have a long charge-up for the OD.

From what I heard from someone who already has it, it passively charges as quickly as Wasp and has the same point to Overdrive charge ratio as Dictator and Ares. Basically, it has the fastest recharge out of all hulls. Sorry bud. 

[Crip 4,735]

Blatant money grab again with this new hull and the "early access" bundle for over £100 in the shop.

 

Starting to look worse than EA, Tanki.

[RIDDLER_8 5,553]

I have just been to the special DM mode and found out the Hopper does not repair its hull when its overdrive is activated.

Hopper slides easily out of control when moving sideways. That is something that Ares does not do. Hopper kinds of drifts sideways when steering left and right.

[Cleric 1,385]

13 minutes ago, RIDDLER_8 said:

I have just been to the special DM mode and found out the Hopper does not repair its hull when its overdrive is activated.

 

Hopper slides easily out of control when moving sideways. That is something that Ares does not do. Hopper kinds of drifts sideways when steering left and right.

What do you mean "Hopper does not repair its hull when its overdrive is activated"? Do you mean the repair kit is not working while the OD is in effect?

 

Basically, Hopper's maneuverability is the amplified version of that of Ares. Ares's recover/reaction time (i.e. when you slide towards one direction in full speed, and immediately trying to go to the opposite direction) is horrible, but doesn't seem to be the case for Hopper. The same thing applies to drifting, Ares kind of also drifts, but since it travels so slow, it is not that noticeable. Yet, when Hopper does the same thing, it is a different story.

Edited September 19, 2020 by Aegis

[Spy 14,747]

11 minutes ago, Aegis said:

What do you mean "Hopper does not repair its hull when its overdrive is activated"? Do you mean the repair kit is not working while the OD is in effect?

I think he meant the overdrive doesn't heal your tank like the dictator's overdrive 

[Viking4s 10,791]

1 hour ago, Aegis said:

You are questioning the Oxford dictionary and its authority of defining terms and phrases, which if I recall Oxford has been doing this for centuries. [...]

If I recall correctly, you started all these. Remember that absurd "It was never a tank game" statement that you made 2 hrs ago? And now it all the sudden become pointless isn't it? [...]

Let's review where we are, shall we. I don't want to start a discussion about pro and cons of dictionaries, but they do not cover everything ("the OED is very different from dictionaries of current English, in which the focus is on present-day meanings"), plus they only offer a view from the english culture and the world offer more than just the english view.

Tanki is a game of tanks in the broader definition ("a tank is an armoured fighting vehicle"), it sports conventional tanks (with caterpillar tracks and guns) and also host other more futuristics turret with "gun" (firebird, freeze, rocket launcher,.. ) or turret with alien technology (Isida, ricochet, twins ...) and recently 2 hulls with anti-gravity propulsion (definitely sy-fy technology) without caterpillar tracks. Therefore in the strict definition of oxford, Tanki is not 100% equipped with conventional tank. From the  get go you always had freeze and fire turrets and name given to equipment that do not have any reference to conventional Tanks. In that context this is why I said "It was never a conventional/oxfordian tank game". I mean it is pointless debate because you are many years too late to tell tanki to stay more oxfordian.

Tanki players accepts a wider definition of the word tank (with overdrives and weird technology), while the ones playing WOT you will have conventional/oxfordian tank game with some historical references (no plasma ball or anti-gravity tech), but they do have an artillery turret that stun rather than kill. 

DYK that tanks were named after tank: A large receptacle or storage chamber, especially for liquid or gas.[1] 

Edited September 19, 2020 by Viking4s

[Cleric 1,385]

10 minutes ago, Spy said:

I think he meant the overdrive doesn't heal your tank like the dictator's overdrive 

Ok... I thought that is super obvious...

Edited September 19, 2020 by Aegis

[RIDDLER_8 5,553]

Since the release of Hopper yesterday, there are many broken things in Tanki Online. The game loads very slowly. Containers cannot be opened and daily, weekly and special missions cannot be claimed. Hopper has broken the game today. I hope to see all bugs fixed today. Please announce when game servers are fixed and every bugs related to Hopper have been solved once it for all.

This is one of the worst bugs I have seen in Tanki Online. Please fix them as soon as you can.

There are issues with the game servers. There are too many bugs today. I have also noted that there are lots of players lagging today. This should not be happening on the HTML5 version of Tanki Online. I do understand the concern with Flash though, but it should not be happening on HTML5.

[RIDDLER_8 5,553]

@Spy - @Aegis - @Aegis - @Aegis-XX

Hopper's overdrive should repair the hull like Dictator's and Mammoth's overdrive. That's what I mean.

[cosmic666 1,055]

1 hour ago, Aegis said:

You are questioning the Oxford dictionary and its authority of defining terms and phrases, which if I recall Oxford has been doing this for centuries. Where were you at that time? What is your next step Mr. IKnowBetterThanYou (I don't make this name up, you admitted it yourself, remember?), challenging all the scientists, saying Earth is flat, because science evolves like technology does?

 

If I recall correctly, you started all these. Remember that absurd "It was never a tank game" statement that you made 2 hrs ago? And now it all the sudden become pointless isn't it?

 

BTW, I believe you have not been playing in this account for about a month. Are you playing in other account(s)? Or it is you who have abandoned this game the whole time?

Lol that's his new name......FLAT EARTH BOY.......

[RIDDLER_8 5,553]

Tanki Online is often stuck on loading.

[Cleric 1,385]

7 minutes ago, RIDDLER_8 said:

@Spy - @Aegis - @Aegis - @Aegis-XX

Hopper's overdrive should repair the hull like Dictator's and Mammoth's overdrive. That's what I mean.

No it should not... Why is it a thing in the first place?

Edited September 19, 2020 by Aegis

[cosmic666 1,055]

@RIDDLER_8 Welcome to planet earth (finally) you are now experiencing the things that have plagued the rest of us for a long time, BUT now they are affecting your game play so like you rightly said......the devs better get a shifty on and fix them asap, cant have my mate riddler losing out on precious game time. STICK IT TO EM BRO. We want ALL glitches sorted right now, this has gone on long enough. Big shout out to @RIDDLER_8 for bringing this to the attention of the devs in a big way. NICE 1 BRO.

[Russty 368]

I've been playing with Hopper for 30 minutes. Here are my thoughts:

• The hull drifts too much, difficult to steer.
• I think the burning effect should be removed but the stun effect is fine.
• Speed is perfect.
• I think the developers should allow the players to control the speed that they go down after activating the Overdrive. Sometimes I want to come down fast with force but sometimes I just want to fall like a feather. I'm not sure if this would create any other issues but I think it'd be great if they could do that.

[cosmic666 1,055]

2 minutes ago, Russty said:

I've been playing with Hopper for 30 minutes. Here are my thoughts:

• The hull drifts too much, difficult to steer.
• I think the burning effect should be removed but the stun effect is fine.
• Speed is perfect.
• I think the developers should allow the players to control the speed that they go down after activating the Overdrive. Sometimes I want to come down fast with force but sometimes I just want to fall like a feather. I'm not sure if this would create any other issues but I think it'd be great if they could do that.

Even i tried it in DM mode..VERDICT...pants, just like HTML5....useless. 

[TinBoxGunner 140]

How can someone still buy stuff in this laggy game?

Edited September 19, 2020 by Spy
Kindly refrain from using inappropriate language.

[wolverine848 13,097]

4 hours ago, Aegis said:

BTW, what's your deal? First you argue that this game is not (only) about tanks, despite the name of this game literally translates to "Tank Online". Then you argue that a tank can be hovering which every single person know articulated metal track is what separate a tank from ordinary armoured vehicles. 

And he clearly thinks all ACVs (armored combat vehicles) are tanks - which is obviously incorrect.  But he words things to support his position, even though his position is wrong.

That's his schtick.  Just put him on ignore like a bunch of us already have.

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, TheCongoSpider said:

From what I heard from someone who already has it, it passively charges as quickly as Wasp and has the same point to Overdrive charge ratio as Dictator and Ares. Basically, it has the fastest recharge out of all hulls. Sorry bud. 

Of course it does...

I should not be surprised by anything the Devs do anymore.  They have jumped the shark.

[SporkZilla 1,775]

28 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

And he clearly thinks all ACVs (armored combat vehicles) are tanks - which is obviously incorrect.  But he words things to support his position, even though his position is wrong.

That's his schtick.  Just put him on ignore like a bunch of us already have.

I don't I think disagree with him much about tanks, even though a lot of the hull & turret combinations in TO aren't tanks in the type-of-ACV/AFV sense

And it's not really about tracks; if the technology existed to make main battle tanks / MBTs hover, there would be hovering tanks

But none of this is really relevant to TO, so for Magnum the controversy is about indirect fire turrets instead of telling people that Magnum (in its original form) is a self-propelled artillery piece instead of a tank

And with Hopper it's about being able to jump over the obstacles / terrain that every other hull has to navigate (and stunning & burning) instead of whether it's "tank" enough

At the moment I'm just looking forward to blasting the little blighters out of the sky (with Smoky), but its OD does look OP

Edited September 19, 2020 by SporkZilla

[yoni292 226]

140 USD is too expensive. Especially if one would be able to purchase it later in garage for crystals or tankoins.

Has anyone got any stats on the new hull? Nothing in Wiki nor in Tanki Online pages.

 

Edited September 19, 2020 by yoni292

[HichigoShiiro 4,378]

Even 40 euro would've been too expensive for this garbage hull, and they think they can make people cough up 140.. kekw

[Viking4s 10,791]

7 minutes ago, yoni292 said:

140 USD is too expensive. Especially if one would be able to purchase it later in garage for crystals or tanckoins.

Has anyone got any stats on the new hull? Nothing in Wiki nor in Tanki Online pages.

Too early for the wiki, look for some youtube video in the coming hours you will find some answer.